sowen
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Jan 22, 2015 13:11:03 GMT
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So how are things going with this now? Has the P6 took all the like light? Well, I turned it round so it's pointing the other way! It dwarfs my Discovery and sounds so sweet The big problem I have is the sump now doesn't bolt to the gearbox so I will need to probably start over again on the conversion, either by making a pair of adapter plates between the bellhousing and engine, or continuing to weld the bellhousing?
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sowen
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Jan 22, 2015 12:59:59 GMT
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Great to see and hear this running. How near finished do you feel it is? Being a typical old Rover I keep poking holes in the metalwork, depends how much spare time I get on with it. The rear wheelarches, sills and front inner wings all need work, then it's really putting the thing together and getting it mot'd
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sowen
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As others have said, report to the police, they've tried it on with you and haven't stopped.
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sowen
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Jan 18, 2015 18:16:02 GMT
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The easiest Mercedes lump to buy and get running mechanically is the 5 cylinder, using Ssangyong Musso 2.9 injection pump, or the complete Ssangyong 2.9 5 cylinder engine. Sorry but my interest in any of the 4 cylinder diesels just doesn't exist anymore, too small and rough in comparison to a straight 5/6 or V8 Could possibly take some approximate measurements of your engine, no worries if u can't? Then i can work out if it would be remotely possible. The back of the block (fly wheel housing should be under the cab floor) to the bit sticking out furthest to the front would be great and some indication of hight and width would be good. Cheers. A week earlier and it wouldn't have been a problem! It's in storage now as I've brought another car into the garage, but as a very basic guide the OM605 is similar in length to a dressed up Land Rover diesel, 28" from the back of the cylinder head to the front accessories I think?
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sowen
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Rover SD1 Lexus 4000 V8sowen
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Jan 18, 2015 14:45:33 GMT
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My bad - thanks Sowen. Agreed about the wheels, but the rest is bob on. It makes me think about doing a Lexus V8 conversion on mine as the engine sits so nicely in the 'bay, but it would have to be a manual
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sowen
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Jan 18, 2015 11:11:58 GMT
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Very impressive work. I've been waiting for ages to see someone experimenting with Mercedes engines, I have an old 1981 camper van that I want to put a more modern engine in, I just want to fit the engine as standard (without super chargeretc) but was given the impression that there would be a load of electronic gubbins to go with it. I'd like a standard turbo charged engine and I don't want to chop the cab about to get it in so I think I'll probably need a 4 cylinder. Can you suggest one of the merc engines and what I'd need to do to make it work? Cheers The easiest Mercedes lump to buy and get running mechanically is the 5 cylinder, using Ssangyong Musso 2.9 injection pump, or the complete Ssangyong 2.9 5 cylinder engine. Sorry but my interest in any of the 4 cylinder diesels just doesn't exist anymore, too small and rough in comparison to a straight 5/6 or V8
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sowen
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1984 Rover SD1 Turbo V8 sowen
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Jan 17, 2015 15:56:04 GMT
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I had a b reg vitesse back in 1999 loved it. I used to get parts from a guy in Warrington who had a shed/back garden full of parts & a breaker or two on his drive. If I find his contact details I will pass them on. Wasn't a few containers found somewhere like India full of brand new parts years & years ago..not sure if rimmer bros bought the lot. Yes I know of the guy from Warrington, I've bought a few things from him in the past, really nice helpful chap. The India spares made their way to Rimmers, at one point shortly after they arrived I seriously considered buying one of the complete shells but didn't as I was too busy and couldn't store a shell at the time.
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sowen
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1984 Rover SD1 Turbo V8 sowen
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Jan 16, 2015 22:02:24 GMT
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nice! Great thinking going on here. I've got a weak spot for SD1's, i owned 1 for a year, loved it to bits, even though it was in bits most of that time. I can't be having something like what everyone else has now can I I've bought some cheap Rover 800 rear discs for the back Unfortunately they won't fit in my lathe to open out the centres so that's something I'll have to farm out to someone else to do for me All change with the cars, diesel P6 out and SD1 finally in the garage for some winter tinkering First job was to fit the new pressed metal number plates, so I took the rear plastic plate off and found a couple of rust scabs around the screw holes, so poked and prodded and ended up attacking with the grinder and sander No shortage of filler on the drivers side, and as of yet no obvious reason for the amount of filler I've found around the entire drivers rear quarter. The only conclusion I've come up with is whoever last did the paint on the Rover fancied themselves as a sculptor The last section of boot carpet was removed from the inside of the back panel to reveal the horror of scotchloks The plan will be to remove them altogether and rewire the trailer electrics better, I've removed the caravan socket as that is completely pointless to have fitted While waiting for the paint to dry for the numberplate plinth my attention turned to my really good efi installation in the passenger footwell The plan all along has been to make a proper power board in the top of the glovebox for the efi so with the SD1 in the garage near the workbench it was an easy job to knock up a folded aluminium tray to bolt on using the existing holes and captive nuts under the dashboard The spare V8 has been uncovered and the new efi loom being laid out and most of the multiplugs fitted, final jobs are fitting multiplugs for a few of the remote sensors, 12v power for the injectors then wrapping I've also started graffiti-ing my wiring diagrams for the Megasquirt loom, hopefully I will be able to make it in one go and not keep modifying it as I go and make it a complete mess! A new fuse box has arrived in the post so that and the knock detector will also need to be squeezed on the power board Annoyingly I've found the heater has been leaking into the passenger footwell so it looks likely that the dashboard will need to be removed to gain access to it, which will be a chance to have a closer look at the rust in the bottom of the dashboard
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sowen
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Jan 16, 2015 19:32:02 GMT
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sowen
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sowen
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Club RR Member Number: 24
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Jan 14, 2015 22:24:50 GMT
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sowen
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Jan 14, 2015 15:26:05 GMT
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I love banded steels, I also love fat tyres
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sowen
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Good save, can't remember the last time I saw one, let alone in the goldish paint scheme with the mega brown interior!
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sowen
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Thanks, louder than my brothers supercharged Land Rover so I'm happy! Woohoo! Looks like it hardly smokes? Nice! Enough air to burn all the fuels! The supercharger hasn't been plumbed into the intake yet, I got a facefull of supercharge doing that! The governor has only been given a small tweak to the screws, but since doing the OM606 in my Land Rover, I have confidence that I can get a bit more fuel in. I've got a handy manual describing the operation of the governor which using that I made an uneducated guess on what was best to fiddle with most on the '606 pump, and that does blow a little black . The supercharger alone should pump enough air for the for that the injection pump in it's present state can produce. Eventually, once the car hits the road I want to send one of my spare pumps to Dieselmeken and have a pukka superpump built, probably 8mm as that's what most people want
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sowen
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Can't wait to hear what this sounds like, I'll bet it sounds epic! Betting closed
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sowen
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Makes interesting readingsowen
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Ah yes the good old 'raise it to 80mph', so why do I find myself passing on the left at 65mph at least 2-3 times a week and having to brake to pull out into lane 2 for overtaking? The motorways are too congested at peak times, too many distracted drivers with aids belting down 5ft from the car infront because the modern brakes etc.
Leave it as is, it's a sensible balance that the country is accustomed to, even 4 lane motorways are too much for some!
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sowen
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I can't see that exhaust being illegal, I have a side exit on my T4 van and I've had no problems with the MOT. It may not be particularly quiet (good job too) but unless it's a real screamer, it should be ok. The clatter of the engine and whine from the supercharger easily drown out the exhaust noise at idle plus a bit, but it is a noticeable 5 pot note. My plan is to get the radiator, throttle pedal etc hooked up on the weekend so I can drive it up and down the driveway if possible, then I'll know for sure. If I have to I could put a small token muffler on there to look like I've tried
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sowen
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Universal 550mm intercooler with 2.5in pipe outlets, more than enough for the current turbo and plenty of scope for future upgrades so future-proof *cough* Supercharger
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sowen
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Good googly woogly! Good progress dude!! The axle is in almost properly now with the Watts linkage re-attached, sits much better with a little clearance to the outer wheelarches, so proper road legal and wider tyres can be considered later on. This photo was just before jacking up again to tack the Watts brackets back onto the axle A quick sweep up of the garage floor was an ideal opportunity to roll it back a little for a more complete photo or two... The braided fuel lines are now all in place apart from being tied up from dangling and rubbing on stuff following the original fuel line routing. I might cover them in heatshrink or something similar to help try and protect them from damage I took the hacksaw to the plastic inlet manifold to remove the plenum so it can be bolted back on the engine so no foreign objects can fall down the ports and clear the supercharger The inlet manifold will be binned as soon as I come up with an alternative, either modifying my 6 cylinder manifold to fit, or start entirely from scratch and make a complete new manifold to fit, undecided on that right now. Next up was to fit some form of exhaust device to direct the gases away from the master cylinders, steering box etc and away from the car. I turned a 10mm thick flange on the lathe, then fabricated the top section of the downpipe to the manifold out of flat plates to make a box section elbow, then bashed a short offcut of 3" stainless tube to make a square to round section. From that, another offcut of stainless tube was tacked on the end, and an elbow welded onto another spare length of tube With the top section bolted to the turbo, I made a short extention to the elbow so that it could slide over the upper section and clamp on, then stood back in awe of my creation I'm really really pleased with how well it turned out, and how quick it went together . I don't know if it would be 'road legal' (don't care as it's awesome in my mind as is) and sounds pretty damn good too, maybe possible to get a decent video done on the weekend? I'm just waiting for a few silicon elbows for the radiator and a few other odd bits for the engine installation so it physically starts AND stops on the Rover's original ignition system, as it does move under it's own power at last
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