rld14
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Mar 19, 2011 23:21:48 GMT
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Brennon, The pilot bearing i mean is the one that goes in the engine, not the throwout bearing. The little one that you press in the end of the crank. That's the PITA one. As far as the shifter linkage goes, one end of the carrier mounts on the top of the trans with that "L" shaped rod with a clip on it (Called the "b**ch clip") and the other mounts to a bracket on the body of the car inside the transmission tunnel. It's got a rubber bushing in it. The shifter rod then, of course, then sits in the carrier. If you are converting an automatic car there *_SHOULD_* be a bracket in the tranny tunnel, if not you'll need to order one and a bushing and weld it to the tranny tunnel. It's a real pain because you have to strip out the interior so you don't set the carpet on fire from welding... again, speaking from experience!  |
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rld14
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Mar 19, 2011 23:31:33 GMT
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The Pilot bearing is #3 in this image... it's pressed into the back of the crankshaft. Make sure you install it otherwise you'll wreck lots of expensive things. Automatic engines do NOT have one!  The bracket I was talking about is #8 in this image.  |
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Mar 20, 2011 10:16:25 GMT
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i would like to give big thanks to you at this point!!
i think i will put this down to learning from my mistakes!
the number 8 bracket, this bolts directly to the car? or is there a bushing inbetween?
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rld14
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Mar 20, 2011 10:37:06 GMT
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Happy to help! Snagged those from realoem.com Enter last 7 of your VIN and you can explore BMW's ETM for free. #8 should bolt directly to a bracket on the tranny tunnel, the question is, does your car have the bracket? Not all Ex-Autos do |
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60 Lincoln Premiere Coupe
60 Lincoln Continental Mark V Convertible
54 Ford Customline Fordor
32 Ford Roadster
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Mar 20, 2011 10:58:14 GMT
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Happy to help! Snagged those from realoem.com Enter last 7 of your VIN and you can explore BMW's ETM for free. #8 should bolt directly to a bracket on the tranny tunnel, the question is, does your car have the bracket? Not all Ex-Autos do what does the bracket look like? i think i might pop out and get some pics of the underside of the car! i would have thought as it had the tab for the clutch line it would have it?  |
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Mar 20, 2011 13:09:06 GMT
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rld14
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Mar 20, 2011 17:45:43 GMT
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I can't tell from that pic but they don't all have the bracket for the shifter carrier bushing. You have a manual 735, right? Jack that one up, check underneath. It's very important to have the busing mount welded on in pretty much the exact spot. Also, and you're gonna hate hearing this, it also means a lot of the interior is coming out I am afraid. I know on E38s it really seems to be hit and miss, my car actually has one (Still on slushbox tho) and it's a 740iL, which makes absolutely NO sense as, to my knowledge, BMW never ever made a manual trans LWB E38. Yet I have seen SWB E38s without the bracket. I remember that the E32 740i I nearly swapped over did in fact have the carrier bushing bracket. It's a small hoop of metal with a stud on it if memory serves correctly. If I also remember it can be ordered from BMW, they're something like $4 or $5 over here but it was a super special order part. If you can do an exact duplicate, then you should be able to fab one up pretty easily. www.nmia.com/~dgnrg/page_41.htmRead the part about linkage..... Let me know what ya find out. Bill |
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Mar 27, 2011 10:23:07 GMT
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well. today was supposed to be an epic update of me smoking the tyres down the drive in a victory completion video but........... the propshaft is the wrong size after my reading (and basic measuring) i have come 2-3 inch short on the prop. this throws me all out! I was not expecting it at all and did not find out until fitting the diff in place. i have a couple of ideas, one is i'm guessing that the LWB 7 series is 2-3 inch longer? so if i could find a prop from one it could be full of win? the other is to get the prop modified, i'm waiting on a reply from a local business to see if they have the tooling at the moment! I even took this ready for posting today -  in other news i think i hold the title for having the largest displacement engine in a car in the uk for the black one -  only found out because the DVLA sent me a letter about it! and finally i found a nice suprise for the black one on the doorstep friday morning -  which turned into ............................  cant wait to get them fitted!! |
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rld14
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Mar 27, 2011 11:39:14 GMT
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LOVE those wheels!
And yeah, if you have a LWB E32, then you are going to need to fabricate a driveshaft I'm afraid, to my knowledge all LWB 7s were built from the factory as automatics.
BTW, how did you end up with the bracket for the shifter carrier?
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Mar 27, 2011 12:00:07 GMT
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BMW did build LWB 7 Series with manual boxes . . both 730il and 735il . . but I doubt, that many are around though . .
Part number for SWB prop: 26 11 1 226 604
Part number for LWB prop: 26 11 1 226 611
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Mar 27, 2011 13:13:57 GMT
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LOVE those wheels! And yeah, if you have a LWB E32, then you are going to need to fabricate a driveshaft I'm afraid, to my knowledge all LWB 7s were built from the factory as automatics. BTW, how did you end up with the bracket for the shifter carrier? mine is a standard wheel base but if i can get a lwb propshaft i think i can split it, use the front from the 5 series and the back from the lwb 7 and it should be right ;D bracket was crazy money from stealership but bolted up fine when i was smart enough to flick off the sound deadining that was covering the mounting hole!!!  |
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Mar 27, 2011 16:00:44 GMT
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i have a couple of questions.......... here is the fusebox from my black 7  it has had the starter relay bridged out for the manual conversion. here is the white one -  does anyone know which the starter relay is? also............. how do you un seize coilovers? i have jsut chucked some WD40 over them but they seem pretty stuck!!!! |
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rld14
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Mar 27, 2011 17:10:41 GMT
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Two things (apologies I'm on my phone)
Iirc you can't jump the starter relay, you have to ground a wire off of the neutral safety switch to get it to start.
As far as the driveshaft, it's possible that you have a ZF trans and the driveshaft is from a getrag car or vice versa. I've seen this on M50 E34s, some have ZFs and some have getrags.
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Mar 27, 2011 17:26:05 GMT
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I will have to look into the black one a little more, all I had read was about shorting out the starter.
How can I tell with the trans/ prop? Any markings I could look for?
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Mar 27, 2011 18:24:54 GMT
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well............. it runs!!
found the relay to be 'k1 (x55)' on the white one, top left hand corner in normal people terms!! i have bridged it traveller style for the moment, i will do something proper with it at a later date!
forgetting that neutral is actually a gear i lifted off the clutch to hear the propshaft turn which points toward the clutch working!
so all i have left now is.......
tighten bolts on halfshafts diff side
remove prop and sort new one/ modification
bleed cooling system
check gearbox fluid level
adjust coilovers
fit brake caliper
fit wheels
thats about it i think (i hope!!)
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rld14
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Mar 27, 2011 21:09:48 GMT
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WIN!
Check that link I posted about the 735i manual swap, I think he lists what wire you have to ground so you don't have to bodge the starter relay.
Don't you have the propshaft from the donor car?
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Mar 27, 2011 21:18:15 GMT
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WIN! Check that link I posted about the 735i manual swap, I think he lists what wire you have to ground so you don't have to bodge the starter relay. Don't you have the propshaft from the donor car? yeah, i will double check they wiring, in the long run i would like to split the relay casing and adapt the wiring inside so that it can retain factory looks. against all my usual beliefs i didn't use a donor car, i had the box from a 535i and the propshaft came with the LSD. i got the prop and diff from the same guy that converted my black one years ago, he said that he thought that the 535 prop bolted straight up. The rear of the prop is the same length and the front section is longer than the front section of the old prop but its just not long enough  |
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rld14
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Mar 27, 2011 22:21:40 GMT
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An E34 driveshaft won't work as the E32 is longer... Pedal box, transmission, etc.. those will all work, and the diffs exchange out too.
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Mar 27, 2011 22:24:21 GMT
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Oh, and swapping out front driveshaft sections can cause driveshaft imbalance. If you look at a typical BMW 2-piece driveshaft there's usually a paint mark where the front and rear sections line up at the splines, that's because whoever supplies them to BMW balances them after they are assembled. You can make yourself insane with driveshaft balance issues if you swap sections back and forth. Again, speaking from experience with an E30 :\
Best thing is to find a good used E32 manual driveshaft in a scrap yard.
Oh yeah, Driveshaft is American for propshaft.... keep forgetting British driveshaft is American for axleshaft.
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60 Lincoln Premiere Coupe
60 Lincoln Continental Mark V Convertible
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32 Ford Roadster
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Mar 27, 2011 22:34:25 GMT
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Best thing is to find a good used E32 manual driveshaft in a scrap yard. ahhhhhhhhh, wellllllllllllll, ummmmmmm....... i have only ever seen 2 manual 7s in real life and both of them are on my driveway! i think its referred to as hens teeth? poor quality wobbly children's play pony poo poo? |
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