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Since the age of 10, when my best friend's dad gave me a lift home in his red 1983 Mercedes 230E, I've been into W123s. When I was a kid I would construct a car out of Lego, stick a 230E label on the back and drive it around the house. I've had my fair share of old Mercedes W124s and 190s but it was not until late 2009 that I bought my dream spec W123, a 230E with a manual gearbox. This is it: When I bought it the car was completely standard, with 90k odd miles from new, although there was little history to back this up. I am the 4th owner. According to the previous owner and the MoT history, the car was laid up for a number of years (in dry storage apparently) before being recommissioned and put back on the road in 2007.
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1985 Mercedes W123 230E - 5 speed manual & 2011 BMW F11 520d Touring - 8 speed automatic.
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Not long after I bought the car the electro-magnetic fan coupling failed. As a temporary repair I JB Welded the fan to the coupling. This bodge has worked ever since and so far I haven't done anything about it. Mercedes manual gearboxes are known for being ponderous. Mine was ok, but the lever was a little stiff. Application of grease to the lever mechanism promptly sorted out the stiffness. Rainwater was dripping past the rear window seal and into the boot. More on this later. To ensure that metal within the boot doesn't rot, I primed all the seams.
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1985 Mercedes W123 230E - 5 speed manual & 2011 BMW F11 520d Touring - 8 speed automatic.
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1985 Mercedes W123 230E - 5 speed manual & 2011 BMW F11 520d Touring - 8 speed automatic.
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I've said it before, but your W123 is gorgeous, and makes me realise what a dog mine was!
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1985 Mercedes W123 230E - 5 speed manual & 2011 BMW F11 520d Touring - 8 speed automatic.
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The previously mentioned water ingress started to get worse. I took the car to a local bodywork specialist and had the rear screen removed to enable an inspection of the rear panel. The news wasn't good. For £450 I had the rusty metal cut out, new sections fabricated and welded in and the panel made good and re-sprayed. The garage did a perfect job and the boot is now watertight.
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1985 Mercedes W123 230E - 5 speed manual & 2011 BMW F11 520d Touring - 8 speed automatic.
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I've been using the car in the snow again (December 2010). On one occasion, due to traffic and other drivers' inability to drive in snowy conditions, a 5 minute journey from the local town back to the village took 1.5 hours! Whenever I took the car out in snow, I wore my hiking boots. I didn't think that all the compacted snow within the treads would melt and turn into water. The water had seeped past the rubber mats and beneath the carpets.
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1985 Mercedes W123 230E - 5 speed manual & 2011 BMW F11 520d Touring - 8 speed automatic.
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Yesterday, whilst fitting a replacement cable for the rear window demister, I noticed that the original coating applied over the floorpans was cracked and there was water beneath the coating. I hacked off the brittle original coating to reveal a damp, rusty but fortunately not rotten floorpan. The metal around the accelerator pedal was just beginning to rot, but I think I've caught it in time. I wire-brushed the floorpan and coated it with this stuff. Apparently it turns rust back to good metal. Then I used this stuff to coat the metal. It needs another coat but the floorpan is starting to look solid again. Once dry, hopefully by the end of the week, I will coat the floorpan with paint to match the colour of the bodywork.
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1985 Mercedes W123 230E - 5 speed manual & 2011 BMW F11 520d Touring - 8 speed automatic.
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Late last year I bought a 1994 W124 E200 automatic. It has the later 2.0 16V 4 cylinder petrol engine, producing 136BHP. The car has a good spec, with twin airbags, leather, electric windows, mirrors and sunroof, cruise control, alloys and a decent stereo. The W124 is my daily hack. It looks happy parked next to the 230E. Since buying the E200, I replaced the battery, thermostat (the engine wasn't getting up to temperature) and front brake pads. The car is in good condition and with only 102k miles on the clock, it should be good for another 20 years of reliable service.
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1985 Mercedes W123 230E - 5 speed manual & 2011 BMW F11 520d Touring - 8 speed automatic.
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I've said it before, but your W123 is gorgeous, and makes me realise what a dog mine was! Thanks mate. My 230E is in good condition but it has taken time and money to maintain and improve it. The following is a list of things I still have to do:1. Complete the floorpan repairs and refit the interior. 2. Install a pair of 1980s shelf mounted rear speakers. 3. The central front scuttle panel has a little rust spot. The panel is bolted and a repair should be easy. 4. Remove the side trims and give them a clean. Whenver it rains I get dirty runs down the side of the car. 5. Clean the engine bay again as it got dirty whilst driving in the snow. 6. Repair a little dink and rust on the bottom of the offside front wing, where it meets the valance. 7. And whatever else comes up!
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1985 Mercedes W123 230E - 5 speed manual & 2011 BMW F11 520d Touring - 8 speed automatic.
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Despite the cold weather overnight, the primer had dried, which allowed me to apply another coat this afternoon. I hope to have at least one layer of top-coat on it before the weekend. A quick historical reference, on the 23rd of December 2009 I took my first born child (boy) home from hospital, who was 3 days old at the time, in the back of the 230E. Lucky kid! Here's Charlie again a few months later. And again with his mum (my wife Joanna). And finally with me whilst out on a day trip in London's West End. Perhaps one day Charlie will help me maintain (restore?) the old Merc.
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1985 Mercedes W123 230E - 5 speed manual & 2011 BMW F11 520d Touring - 8 speed automatic.
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Bad news. What I thought was water brought into the car in the form of snow under my boots has turned out to be a water ingress problem. I went to topcoat the floorpan this morning only to find a pool of water within the floorpan recesses. Rainwater is dripping from under the dash. I propose to remove the front scuttle panels to find out where the water is coming in from. By undoing these four lugs I can remove the central panel. I am in the process of finding out if the side panel can be removed or whether it is welded to the shell. I hope to remove the bonnet opening mechanism spring to gain access to the recess alongside the scuttle. Fingers crossed it's nothing serious!
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1985 Mercedes W123 230E - 5 speed manual & 2011 BMW F11 520d Touring - 8 speed automatic.
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Flipping smashing pair you've got there matey! I wish i'd gone for the 123 and 124 combo, instead i ended up with (increasingly frustrating) mk3 Golf and the 123. The detailing on the arches, back panel and under bonnet is amazing!! I wish i had even half the skill and confidence to get serious like that with mine I hope the water trouble doesn't turn out to be too serious. I bet your dreading the day Charlie asks to borrow the W123?!
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97' silver Mercedes 230 Slk.... charged 94' bronze Hiace custom ... daily drinker 92' white Eunos roadster....... sold 91' grey Mercedes 500 SL .... sexyful 82' white Mercedes 200......... needs lows
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Flipping smashing pair you've got there matey! I wish i'd gone for the 123 and 124 combo, instead I ended up with (increasingly frustrating) mk3 Golf and the 123. Thanks mate. Any pics of your W123? I bought the W124 to use for a short while whilst my knee gets better but I've grown to love it. This is my third W124, I've had a 200TE and a 230E before. Last year I smoked around in a W126 300SE for a few months. That was a smashing car, which I regret selling. The detailing on the arches, back panel and under bonnet is amazing!! I wish I had even half the skill and confidence to get serious like that with mine Removing the rear bumper was easy and the panel beneath the bumper just needed polishing and a lick of paint along the bottom edge. Doing the arches took a little longer! I got very wet and dirty whilst getting them clean. There was no rust so prep work was minimal. Here are some more snaps of the arches. Keeping the arches clean is a pain in the you know what! The engine bay took a couple of days to clean up. Trouble is, whilst driving in the rain and snow, it needs doing all over again! I hope the water trouble doesn't turn out to be too serious. I know, I expect a bit of grot in the corner of the bulkhead. I can cope with a small patch of filler to keep the water out but I don't want having to slap a load on and bodge a fine car. I will confirm asap. I bet your dreading the day Charlie asks to borrow the W123?! If he looks after it, he can have the keys. I would love for Charlie to be into cars (old Mercs!) once he grows up. I will do my best to get him involved if he shows any interest.
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1985 Mercedes W123 230E - 5 speed manual & 2011 BMW F11 520d Touring - 8 speed automatic.
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Ok, I think I've got some good news. I haven't removed the front scuttle central panel as there was no need. I will need to this some time in the future to enable other improvements. I removed the bonnet spring to gain access to the recess alongside the bulkhead. Some flaky paint and surface corrosion aside, the metal is 100% solid. As with the floorpan, I treated the rust with Kurust and coated the recess with primer. I also removed one of the scuttle vents. Some mould growth aside, the metal within this part of the bulkhead is in perfect condition. Further investigations revealed that water is getting in via the windscreen aperture, beneath the rubber seal. I removed the dash speaker and underpanel to feel where the water is getting in. I removed the external trim to gain access to the windscreen seal. I bought some of this stuff to seal the windscreen. I've applied the sealant across the top of the windscreen, beneath the rubber along the side of the 'screen and across the base, where I think the water is getting in. Once I re-fitted the side trim, I sealed the joint between the trim and the seal. I've left everything to dry. The forecast for tomorrow is heavy rain. I am hoping that next time I look inside the car, the floorpan will be dry. Tune in to find out!
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1985 Mercedes W123 230E - 5 speed manual & 2011 BMW F11 520d Touring - 8 speed automatic.
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As far as the W124 is concerned, I gave it a wash. Nothing else to report at the moment, it just keeps going!
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1985 Mercedes W123 230E - 5 speed manual & 2011 BMW F11 520d Touring - 8 speed automatic.
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I've had this water ingress problem in Mercs, check that the scuttle drains are clear.
Cheers
David
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Jan 10, 2011 13:31:13 GMT
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I've had this water ingress problem in Mercs, check that the scuttle drains are clear. David, Thank you for your advice. I've checked all drain tubes, including the sunroof tubes (which drain via the windscreen and A-posts) and all seems to be flowing nicely. Peter
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1985 Mercedes W123 230E - 5 speed manual & 2011 BMW F11 520d Touring - 8 speed automatic.
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Jan 10, 2011 20:11:12 GMT
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Washing the W124 the other day reminded me how grotty that patch of rust on the bootlid looked. With the number plate removed. A quick poke with a screwdriver and sandpaper revealed that the metal was solid, if a little rough. Fortunately, ordinary black Hammerite paint matches the colour of the gloss black paintwork. The camera flash accentuates the relative roughness of the finish. In real life it doesn't look too bad! Finally, I obtained some replacement badges from a scrapped C-Class and upgraded my E200 to E320 spec! I marked up the location of each digit with masking tape so the 3 and the 2 line up correctly with the E and the 0. It only started to rain an hour ago so I can't report on the W123's water ingress. I'll know by 8am tomorrow morning.
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1985 Mercedes W123 230E - 5 speed manual & 2011 BMW F11 520d Touring - 8 speed automatic.
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Jan 11, 2011 11:28:37 GMT
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Great news! Following last night's torrential downpour, the inside of the 230E was completely dry this morning. I have now top-coated the floorpan. Once dry, I can begin to re-assemble the interior. I am pleased with the work I have done. I am especially pleased that I have not had to use any filler and that all revealed metalwork is in good and solid condition.
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1985 Mercedes W123 230E - 5 speed manual & 2011 BMW F11 520d Touring - 8 speed automatic.
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