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Dec 30, 2010 12:43:25 GMT
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Is this feasible? The quarterlights on my Niva have little catches that hold them shut. They were originally bonded onto the glass. However, one has come off and nothing I have tried has been strong enough to stick it back on. Tried all sorts of glues and sticky pads including the adhesive for sticking rear-view mirrors back on and nothing holds. The problem is that there is a reasonable amount of strain on the catch when the window is closed to hold the glass tight against the rubber seal. My thoughts are to drill and tap the base of the catch and if I can drill a hole in the window glass, I can use a bolt and some rubber washers to fix the catch in place. It is a mid 80's Lada - I assume the glass is toughened / tempered (what is the difference anyway?) so how would I drill it? These things are rare in the breakers here, so smashing the glass is to be avoided at all costs.   |
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1990 Metro Sport.
1999 Ford Escort estate.
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Dec 30, 2010 12:46:16 GMT
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I think those Ladas have flat glass in them, if they do it may be easier to get a bit of laminated cut to the right size and pre drilled, you can google for info about cutting/drilling glass but tempered glass is always gonna be risky.
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filmidget
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Dec 30, 2010 12:48:36 GMT
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I would thing a glass merchant or similar, I suspect they could grind a hole through the glass.
I think the FinL had something similar done for the glass doors on a cabinet he made.
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Dec 30, 2010 12:52:31 GMT
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It'll crack and bullseye as soon as you try and cut into it with a drill. Wonder if any glass cutters can do this?
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Dec 30, 2010 12:56:04 GMT
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You cann't drill toughened glass.
Take quarterlight to glass merchant and they can cut you one / drill hole out of plain glass and then have it toughtened or make out out of laminated.
What about just sticking them shut using the same stuff as for bonded in windscreens ?
Paul H
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Dec 30, 2010 13:16:16 GMT
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I thought about sealing it shut, but since the wind-up window mechs are all toasted, and the heater is jammed in the Inferno position, there is currently no other way to get fresh air into the cabin.
I will be working my way through the faults, but it will be slow going due to other commitments and I rather need this quarterlight working as it should in the mean time.
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1986 Panda 4x4.
1990 Metro Sport.
1999 Ford Escort estate.
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bortaf
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Dec 30, 2010 13:30:40 GMT
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It'll crack and bullseye as soon as you try and cut into it with a drill. Wonder if any glass cutters can do this? If it cracks i'll be a monkeys uncle !! i'd say it's impossable for toughened glass to crack  only screens are laminated  |
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Dec 30, 2010 13:33:14 GMT
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You want some steel epoxy, like JBWeld, or Bondloc. I had to glue the metal catches back to the windows in my old Delica. Strong as |
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Dec 30, 2010 13:53:11 GMT
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Is only a small piece of glass so you could put it in the oven for a few hours to anneal it. Then drill it as you would a normal piece of glass. Only thing to remember is that it will be no longer toughened when you refit it.
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Dec 30, 2010 14:18:08 GMT
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What about doing it underwater? I don't know if it works for all types of glass but I know that you can cut glass underwater due to the water damping the vibrations that'd usually cause it to crack or shatter.
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Dec 30, 2010 14:44:47 GMT
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you want to make a cutter and use grinding paste to cut a hole in glass/other fragile things to be sure of a good job. (supposing you don't have access to a proper setup to do it)
Cutter needs to be a hollow thinwall cylinder of outer diameter equal to desired hole size with notches cut out to let the paste get ground in better... can't remember what I made mine out of
I've had success cutting fragile but very very hardwearing PZT composite at work with that technique in desperation (the PZT piece cost £500 or so, so I wasn't going to risk it!)
Best of luck, it may be best to simply bond it in place though
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Dec 30, 2010 14:56:20 GMT
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Dec 30, 2010 15:08:44 GMT
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You want some steel epoxy, like JBWeld, or Bondloc. I had to glue the metal catches back to the windows in my old Delica. Strong as +1 That's the standard Capri Mk1 fix for the same exact problem. Roughen the glass mounting surface a tad with sandpaper for best epoxy "grip". |
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Dec 30, 2010 17:02:57 GMT
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I bought one of them mobile phone holders with an adhesive pad as a camera mount and stuck it the back window. Now I cant get the blasted thing off no matter what I do. get one of those take the adhesive pad of it and use that but be prepared the bloody thing is never come off again no matter what you do
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Dec 30, 2010 17:50:26 GMT
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I bought one of them mobile phone holders with an adhesive pad as a camera mount and stuck it the back window. Now I cant get the blasted thing off no matter what I do. get one of those take the adhesive pad of it and use that but be prepared the bloody thing is never come off again no matter what you do ..... or buy one of those adhesive pads they use to stick rear view mirrors to windscreens on moderns. Sh1t to a blanket they are. |
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Dec 30, 2010 18:58:41 GMT
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a glass shop should be able to anneal the glass for drilling and then retemper it afterwards.
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bmw156
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Dec 30, 2010 19:05:02 GMT
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i know a mate tried to grill some nova glass. to remake the rear opening windows every one wants.
he said it shattered into millions of small bits and he kept finding them in his workshop months afterwards.
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Dec 30, 2010 22:00:54 GMT
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why not replace the quarterlight glass with polycarbonate and drill whatever holes you need in it? When I broke the opening quarterlight glass in my '74 Westfalia I used some 6mm polycarbonate to replace the glass. 4 years later it's still in place, still clear (not yellowed) and I've forgotten about it...
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Dec 30, 2010 23:35:59 GMT
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i knocked the mirror of the screen in my daily and got adhesive pads and all-sorts (mate is a screen fitter), none of them worked except for the loctite mirror bond stuff with a mesh in the kit, i'd give that a go.
Alternatively fashion a U clip in steel (stainless?) that goes around the glass with a stud welded on
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Dec 30, 2010 23:56:41 GMT
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