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Apr 27, 2006 11:38:06 GMT
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hey y'all
I know i should "gtfo" and go back to barry boys where i belong, but is there any tables of 0-60 and power to weight ratios on tinternet?
Ta
Rich
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1974 Fiat 130 Coupe
1987 Saab 900 turbo
1988 Mercedes 300ce coupe
1988 Skoda Classic Trials Car
1988 Skoda road rally rapid
1990 Saab 9000 Carlsson
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Apr 27, 2006 11:40:33 GMT
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The lurker formerly known as Cappuccinocruiser.. or wedgedout..
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Apr 27, 2006 11:44:45 GMT
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thats the boy!
i was using it for the rx7 engined estelle
Rich
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1974 Fiat 130 Coupe
1987 Saab 900 turbo
1988 Mercedes 300ce coupe
1988 Skoda Classic Trials Car
1988 Skoda road rally rapid
1990 Saab 9000 Carlsson
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Apr 27, 2006 12:23:07 GMT
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It looks close enough to me based on my real track times etc.
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mako
Part of things
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Apr 27, 2006 12:26:18 GMT
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Interesting thread. I was just thinking about this yesterday but in the way of how the retro rides compare to the bog standard modern factory cars of today. Surely, 0-60 times and power to weight ratios say alot about the car, but so does traction, shifting, etc. Here's one NCF's turbo'd Micras wich has a pretty interesting hp to kg ratio, not to mention Nm to kg ratio. '83 Datsun Nissan Micra 1.5i turbo IC: 730kg/132,2hp = 5,52kg/hp 730kg/216,9Nm = 3,37kg/Nm  For reference: - Honda Civic TypeR: 6,36kg/hp 6,48kg/Nm - Alfa Romeo 147 3.2 GTA: 5,45kg/hp 4,53kg/Nm - Nissan Skyline R-33 GT-R V-Spec: 5,50kg/hp 4,18kg/Nm -Ferrari 360 Modena: 3,52kg/hp 3,73kg/Nm |
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Last Edit: Apr 27, 2006 12:27:00 GMT by mako
'77 Datsun 100A, '79 Mitsubishi Sapporo 2000 GSR
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Apr 27, 2006 12:39:27 GMT
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Hmm, I punched in the stats for my Volvo... Power at Flywheel (BHP) : 155 Weight without Driver (KG) : 1290 Power to Weight Ratio (BHP Per Ton) : 122.08 0 - 60 (Secs) : 8.50 0 - 100 (Secs) : 25.60 60 - 100 (Secs) : 17.10 Quarter Mile (Secs) : 16.94 Terminal Speed (MPH) : 81.34 Drag Strip Quarter Mile (Secs) : 16.84 Drag Strip Terminal Speed (MPH) : 82.28 Sixty in 8.5 seconds?! I'll be lucky! I think gearing has a lot to do with it, which isn't taken into account in this calculator. The Merc doesn't have enough power to weight ratio to even get any figures (125bhp @ flywheel, 1350kg)  ;D However from tests conducted, my 0-60 time is about Thursday  |
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Apr 27, 2006 12:45:38 GMT
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What is weird, if I plug my Golf into it...
Power at Flywheel (BHP) : 139 (book power)
Weight without Driver (KG) : 1200 (1260kg at last mot, knock 60kg off for bloke driving)
0 - 60 (Secs) : 8.89
Drag Strip Quarter Mile (Secs) : 17.15
Drag Strip Terminal Speed (MPH) : 82.23
To get accurate figures...
Power at Flywheel (BHP) : 179
Weight without Driver (KG) : 1200 (1260kg at last mot, knock 60kg off for bloke driving)
0 - 60 (Secs) : 7.10 (I calculated 6.9/7.0 based on the 1/8th time and speed)
Drag Strip Quarter Mile (Secs) : 15.32 (I ran 15.315...)
Drag Strip Terminal Speed (MPH) : 92.26 (at 92.1mph...)
Does my Golf really have 179bhp at the flywheel? What do people think?
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Apr 27, 2006 12:57:17 GMT
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I tried to do that calculator thingy for my Hocus Focus, as it gave a reasonable accurate figure for my BMW....
Unfortantely it couldn't comprehend that the focus is (a) heavy and (b) not very powerful and b0rked!!!
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filmidget
East Midlands
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Apr 27, 2006 12:58:05 GMT
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Is your Golf standard? 'Cos that's a (relatively) quick quarter...
I know a ABF engined Rocco (dyno'ed about 160bhp I think) that's running consistantly about 15.1, and expect that is a touch lighter?
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'79 MG Midget 1500 - Still patiently awaiting attention
'02 Vauxhall Astra 1.8 Elegance(!) - Better than you might think
'03 Mazda MX5 - All new and shiny looking (thanks to Antony at Rust Republic)
'09 Renault Clio - Needs to go.
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Apr 27, 2006 12:58:07 GMT
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I had to put my car in as 165bhp at the flywheel to acheive closer to actually attained figures...
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Apr 27, 2006 13:05:13 GMT
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Is your Golf standard? 'Cos that's a (relatively) quick quarter... I know a ABF engined Rocco (dyno'ed about 160bhp I think) that's running consistantly about 15.1, and expect that is a touch lighter? I don't know, the previous owner said "it's got new cams in too" when I bought it, but it's got LOADS of paperwork and no receipt for cams so I had my doubts... but maybe it does have them... |
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Apr 27, 2006 14:42:03 GMT
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that calculator is a bit.... well, lets just say that it reckoned my G40 would hit 60 in less than 6 seconds, and the rocco in less than 7. no way! i posted a simpler version that seemed more accurate ages ago.... can't find the thread now though  |
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Never trust a man
Who names himself Trevor.
Or one day you might find
He's not a real drug dealer.
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SteveP
Part of things
300 Maniac
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Apr 27, 2006 15:18:48 GMT
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Turned out fairly accurate for my 360GLT - 0-60 and 1/4 mile times...
Power at Flywheel (BHP) : 115
Weight without Driver (KG) : 1150
Power to Weight Ratio (BHP Per Ton) : 101.61
0 - 60 (Secs) : 10.18
0 - 100 (Secs) : 33.21
60 - 100 (Secs) : 23.02
Quarter Mile (Secs) : 18.67
Terminal Speed (MPH) : 74.98
Drag Strip Quarter Mile (Secs) : 18.47
Drag Strip Terminal Speed (MPH) : 76.21
I ran a (depressing) 18.3 @ 74.58 at Santa Pod in my old GLT and 0-60 sounds reasonable.
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2003 - Volvo S60 D5 SE (Daily)
1989 - Volvo 360 GLT
1985 - Volvo 360 GLS
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Apr 27, 2006 18:02:27 GMT
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Where did you get the weight for the golf. 1200kg seems a bit much, my monza is not much heavier than that. Had a look on carfolio and it has your weight down as 950kg www.carfolio.com/specifications/models/car/?car=40458&Volkswagen0-50mph (80 km/h) 5.70s 0-60mph 7.50s 0-100km/h 8.10s 0-Quarter-mile 16.20s 0-Kilometre 29.00s Top speed 204 km/h (127 mph) Fuel Consumption CO2 Emissions Power-to-weight 151.05 bhp/ton |
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Apr 27, 2006 18:43:28 GMT
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It was weighed as part of it's MOT last year (they weigh the car to test the brakes or something) although I suggest it's a bit heavy too, the plate under the engine bay says 1400-odd kg mind...
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Stu
Posted a lot
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Apr 27, 2006 19:39:40 GMT
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It was weighed as part of it's MOT last year (they weigh the car to test the brakes or something) although I suggest it's a bit heavy too, the plate under the engine bay says 1400-odd kg mind... That'll be the maximum loaded weight or something like that. The book weight of a Mk2 Golf is around 950 - 1150 kg depending on number of doors, transmission type, which engine etc. I reckon a standard 16v weighs more like 1100 or 1200kg as you say with fuel, oil, coolant etc etc  In any case, still a very quick quarter for an 1800 16v! |
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Last Edit: Apr 27, 2006 19:40:14 GMT by Stu
'89 BMW E30 325i Sport, '04 MINI Cooper S, '09 Volvo V70 D5
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Apr 27, 2006 22:22:21 GMT
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mot wise weights on a database/chart. its for the brakeing efficentcy.
btw my capri should be;
Power at Flywheel (BHP) : 200
Weight without Driver (KG) : 1190
Power to Weight Ratio (BHP Per Ton) : 170.77
0 - 60 (Secs) : 6.28
0 - 100 (Secs) : 16.63
60 - 100 (Secs) : 10.35
Quarter Mile (Secs) : 14.68
Terminal Speed (MPH) : 93.95
Drag Strip Quarter Mile (Secs) : 14.58
Drag Strip Terminal Speed (MPH) : 95.03
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;D However from tests conducted, my 0-60 time is about Thursday 
