speedy88
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"Nice Cortina mate"
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Modified vs. Standard debatespeedy88
@speedy88
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Oct 13, 2010 10:23:53 GMT
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I'm pretty sure I'm opening a can of worms here. But I wanted to know what the overall opinion of the modified or standard scene was.
Personally I believe that anybody has the right to do what they want with the money they pay for a car. But they're opening themselves up to fair insult if they buy a rare/mint/low mileage/perfectly savable resto project and turn it into something that is beyond saving.
I don't even mind drifters, providing they can modify their cars and drive without endangering anyone (and that they don't go and crash a minter).
What do you lot think?
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Oct 13, 2010 10:31:50 GMT
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I don't even mind drifters Very magnanimous of you.
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Copey
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Oct 13, 2010 10:38:25 GMT
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their car, their money, their taste! it always makes me laugh this "debate" you end up getting 3 sides, people who mod, people who keep standard and purists. purists, tend to look down on modified cars and become quite snotty about it and don't appreciate the fact that people like to modify their cars, people who just like standard on the other hand do appreciate moded cars and like them, but just prefer standard which is fair enough and then modified owners are just happy to do as they wish with their car
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1990 Ford Sierra Sapphire GLSi with 2.0 Zetec 1985 Ford Capri 3.0 (was a 2.0 Laser originally)
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PhoenixCapri
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Modified vs. Standard debatePhoenixCapri
@phoenixescort
Club Retro Rides Member 91
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Oct 13, 2010 10:40:18 GMT
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I've always been of the opinion that if it's very rare (mebbe only a couple in museums) and in a good solid state - then it should be restored to original, or to a modified state were it would only be a case of changing a few parts to make it original.... however, there are very very few cars like this, so basically I think if you put the money and time in (and do a fair job) you should be allowed to do whatever you want to your car Though if a car is going to be pushed to the limits, where it might says, end up on its roof ...... then its nice to leave the good shells to those who want to show and polish and Sunday drive, and do your chopping and risk taking with a non perfect shell (that's what I did and its why I don't feel too much guilt for how the Escort ended up) I says cars are for driving whilst looking good, not just for looking at. If you want to look at something pretty, go to an art gallery or museum, lol. ;D Simple really, I think they should be improved (this is subjective obviously) and driven, so thats what I do. If someone has an issue with that I'll happily take their opinion on board if they are standing by it - i.e. restoring cars to orginal condition, or putting time/cash into a museum. If they're just unproactive whiners, then they won't have my ear for very long.
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Oct 13, 2010 10:53:07 GMT
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i think every car ever built looks better modified.
Just open photoshop. Add some lambo doors, spoiler,sideskirts, and TSW Venoms to ANY car and you will see exactly what i mean.
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Oct 13, 2010 10:54:46 GMT
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They are only cars, do what you like to em, i'm pretty sure if i had the money to buy rare cars i'd still modify them.
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Volvo back as my main squeeze, more boost and some interior goodies on the way.
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Oct 13, 2010 10:58:41 GMT
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their car, their money, their taste! Quite. Cars, no matter how rare, are built to be driven. If you crash it, you repair it. Problem with parts supply? OK, but they're just made of bits of metal and stuff, it's not beyond the wit and ingenuity of man to make new bits. I've always been of the opinion that if it's very rare (mebbe only a couple in museums) and in a good solid state - then it should be restored to original, or to a modified state were it would only be a case of changing a few parts to make it original... I agree with this, and I think it's historically important to keep rare examples as was. However, fundamentally they are just things. People buy these things to have fun with, and it's entirely their prerogative how this may be achieved.
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Oct 13, 2010 11:00:45 GMT
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doesnt matter what it was id mod it.unless it was something so rare it was worth a fortune,then id sell it and buy other rare cars with the money and mod them.
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stealthstylz
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Modified vs. Standard debatestealthstylz
@stealthstylz
Club Retro Rides Member 174
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Oct 13, 2010 11:06:46 GMT
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I've never owned a standard car and no matter how much money I have in the future I never will. Still never seen a standard car that I wouldn't change no matter how rare.
Matt
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Oct 13, 2010 11:14:51 GMT
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This could be quite a biased argument on a modified classic car forum And since I'm on this forum, I'm going to say modified all the way. In the cases where something is rare enough to have historical importance, I just wouldn't buy it to start with
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...proper medallion man chest wig motoring.
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Oct 13, 2010 11:24:00 GMT
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my objection is not that nice old cars get modified, but that there are a lot of badly modified examples out there. There is a car I won't mention in case any one knows the owner on here, but it was a nice tidy original car which could have been used as the basis for a full resto, a nice modified car, or left as was with neat patina. Or anything in between. However its been hacked up into a very "scene" monstrostiy which as soon as its unfashionable will probably end up scrapped.
Just because you can, doesn't mean you should.
I remember someone building a '32 replica out of a mint Pilot which he'd been lucky enough to snag at a good price. Why not just get some repro rails and do that? why waste a perfectly good Pilot? But then, its his car... maybe some of the pars he didn't use kept other Pilots on the road...
And a personal peeve is someone who buys a rare car, has no previous experiance, thinks its really easy to chop, channel, section, whatever and ends up just cutting it to bits and then getting fed up when it won't go back together and weighs it in.
If you make something beautiful and unique then thees a lot less room to criticise.
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1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1994 Ford Fiesta
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Oct 13, 2010 11:25:48 GMT
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I love modified car's but I don't like it when someone takes something rare and does something stupid like a roof chop. don't mind so much if what ever is done is reverseable at a later point but at the end of the day if you own it, you can set the thing on fire for all it matters to me.
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Modified vs. Standard debateRobinxr4i
@robinxr4i
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Oct 13, 2010 11:59:56 GMT
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I've never owned a standard car and no matter how much money I have in the future I never will. Still never seen a standard car that I wouldn't change no matter how rare. Matt Couldn't have said it better myself! But I can appreciate an interesting or old car that has been restores to complete OE spec. I just won do it that way my self.
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Sierra - here we go again! He has an illness, it's not his fault.
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Oct 13, 2010 12:04:03 GMT
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Ooh this is an intresting debate. makes me think mind. I've cut the roof off my early DB18 Consort, a 1949 one and they didn't offically make them until 1950. so yes rare car, BUT isin't it better to do something with it, ie use it then allow it to be preserved, parked and polished? people may disagree but car are for use not just for show else what the point?
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Oct 13, 2010 12:27:29 GMT
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lots of cars aren't "used". Its not down to me or you to tell owners what to do with thier cars. So long as they aren't sitting rotting away in a field they can always be used again in the future. If it gives the owner pleasure to just polish it and sit it in the garage then its not down to me to say thats wrong. I own several garage-bound cars and they aren't even polished.
Your DB18 is an unusual car, not sure its *that* rare, and assuming you finish it, will be a thing of beauty. I see no issue with that at all. But I think I'd do something very similar with it myself...
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1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1994 Ford Fiesta
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Oct 13, 2010 12:37:36 GMT
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Alistairk already said all I had to say...
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194? Willys Jeep MB 1965 Volvo 544 Special 1968 Opel Rekord 1975 Opel Kadett Estate 1985 Mercedes-Benz 230E 1985 Datsun 720 King Cab 4x4 diesel 1997 Volvo S70 2.5SE (ex. "Volvo544special65" - changed to more reader friendly username. )
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Oct 13, 2010 12:47:29 GMT
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I would rather see a car modified and used / enjoyed, rather than be mint and never seen/driven in a garage somewhere. Cars are tools, use them! Mint cars are for museums and shows, modified makes old cars useable everyday. IMO etc
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Oct 13, 2010 13:17:54 GMT
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My opinions on this change to suit me and what i'm feeling at the time.
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Oct 13, 2010 13:24:41 GMT
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I love the assumption that all modified cars are driven more than restored cars are. Or that the alternative is modify it or have it sit in a garage or museum. There are some total trailer queens in the world of modified cars too. There are guys daily driving bone-stiock restored cars.
My personal view is that its all good and you do what suits the path you take brother (or sister). Just don't give bad chi to the world as you do it.
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1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1994 Ford Fiesta
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lizardking
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Oct 13, 2010 13:56:50 GMT
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My view is this:My car,My rules-Your car,Your rules,If you've a modified or standard car that has something about it that appeals to me I will say something,If it doesn't suit my views or doesn't appeal to me I will keep my gob shut,that's the way I feel it should be
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I'M SO RETRO , I SH1T SPANGLES
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