kevfromwales
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the conrod's REALLY out the block now!
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hhhmmmmm still building up my photo thread of much awesomeness, but I'm going to need to dive in quick with another fail type thread on boring old engine swapping the sump on the iveco lump going in the F250 is kind of a 'winged' affair - and these interfere with the front crossmember - I was thinking about cutting them off completely, but then thought to cut the bowl off, and turn it 90 degrees, so the wings stuck out front and rear - however, now I have the sump off (COVERED in oil  ) I can see that the bowl is rectangular, so it's not going to be easy to spin it around - so what about chopping the wings off?? it looks like it will reduce sump capacity by about 1/3 at least - do we reckon this could cause issues? - any other handy tips, experience and advice is very welcome, as I'll be firing up the grinder tomorrow morning! ;D |
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''unfortanatly I'm quite old and scruffy and in need of some loving. my drive shaft needs a new boot....''
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kee
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can you chop the wings off and add them as a nose and a tail or something similar?
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craig
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Nope, no idea but my 1st thoughts would be an oil cooler. Would up capacity a bit and stop the oil getting too hot in the smaller sump.
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Raoul Duke
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sump choppingRaoul Duke
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I do, in fact, have the perfect solution to the problem. Give me the 2.8tD lump (you'd hate it anyway, trust me), and shove a Perkins Prima in the truck. Ya'know, that's what they all do in the states, they're crying out for Montegos on the west coast at the moment...
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...a redder shade of neck on a whiter shade of trash...
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less oil in the sump means a bit more heat and more frequent oil changes, oil cooler wont hurt.
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purplevanman
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as said, can you not chop off the interfering bits and add extra bits where there is room?
Oil cooler if not..
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Welder, fabricator, general resto work
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Should be fine. Those diesels are designed to do stellar mileage with no servicing so just change the oil every 5- to 6,000 miles instead of every 50,000 miles ;D
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v8ian
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Atmo V8 Power . No slicks , No gas + No bits missing . Doing it in style.
Austin A35van, very different------- but still doing it in style, going to be a funmoble
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kevfromwales
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kee, can't add much at the front, but there's room at the back, plus that makes a better position for the sump plug
craig - oil cooler is a good idea, plenty of room down there for it
kes - I'm SO tempted to try and jam another one of these into the riva now...
lols @ J69, yeah, ritch did point out that with my maintainance schedule, I might as well weld the sump plug in..
Ian, thanks for the pictures there, very helpful for the visualisation of what to do next
right - break out the angle grinder and slitting discs!!
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Almost on the road: b11 sunny breadvan, e36 tds, 325i skidcar,
nearly there: ford f250 tathauler, suzuki alto, u11 bluey
not for a while: ford pop, 32 rails,
not in this lifetime: ruby, '29 hillman
''unfortanatly I'm quite old and scruffy and in need of some loving. my drive shaft needs a new boot....''
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v8ian
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A trick worth using when welding up a sump, get an old worksurface and bolt or screw the sump flange to it using every bolt hole, by bolting it to the worksurface before you weld it, it deffo helps with stopping distortion if you are going to wing it, bolt it as you wont get the screws out from under the wing overhang
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Atmo V8 Power . No slicks , No gas + No bits missing . Doing it in style.
Austin A35van, very different------- but still doing it in style, going to be a funmoble
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kevfromwales
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now ^^^ that is an EXCELLENT tech tip right there - thanks ian!!
methinks I'll be scavenging down the tip tomorrow morning (who said 'as usual!')
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Almost on the road: b11 sunny breadvan, e36 tds, 325i skidcar,
nearly there: ford f250 tathauler, suzuki alto, u11 bluey
not for a while: ford pop, 32 rails,
not in this lifetime: ruby, '29 hillman
''unfortanatly I'm quite old and scruffy and in need of some loving. my drive shaft needs a new boot....''
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rtlkyuubi
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I had to make a sump for the engine swap in the viva as I wasnt gonna pay manta sump prices! It all worked out well till I warped the mating face welding it up, its all a bit traveller compared to the proper thing previously posted    |
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Last Edit: Oct 2, 2010 0:30:24 GMT by rtlkyuubi
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carmad
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lol ryan did you know that sump only leaks when its warm???
i have tryed to find the leak but it is minute
we had a fun game for all my freinds at the garage hunt the dip stick
i recently bought a flat pack sump and havent got round to welding it up yet affraid off blowing holes in it lol
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) I can see that the bowl is rectangular, so it's not going to be easy to spin it around - so what about chopping the wings off??
