stealthstylz
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Sept 8, 2010 10:30:59 GMT
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The front strut top mounts on Carltons are huge and take up a lot of the overall length of the strut. I've been thinking of having some camber ajustable top mounts made but not sure if how i'm thinking they work is correct. Here's a quick paint pic of what I want to do  The square black plate with the slots in would be welded onto the strut top. The red plate would have bolts welded through it to bolt it to the black plate. It would then have a piece of tube welded onto the bottom with a roller bearing pressed into it. The top cup of the spring would then ride against this roller bearing. Would that work? The drawing isn't to scale or anything btw not measured it all yet. Matt |
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Sept 8, 2010 10:55:18 GMT
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having a bit of a nonfunctiong brain day today but if going to this length why not go the full distance and incorporate castor adjusment as well
ttfn glenn
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stealthstylz
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Sept 8, 2010 11:08:42 GMT
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Don't need it really not had any castor problems even when it had 4" of rake.
Matt
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rob0r
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Sept 8, 2010 11:49:23 GMT
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Are they not available for carltons or do you fancy DIY? You could always redrill your turrets for some off the shelf ones from another car.
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Sept 8, 2010 12:13:58 GMT
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Looks feasible to me. I've seen it done that way on other cars.
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Sept 8, 2010 12:16:13 GMT
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Camber plates usually have a pillow ball top bearing as you need to allow for a little angular movement.
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stealthstylz
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Sept 8, 2010 12:49:17 GMT
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Never seem them for Carltons, they have camber ajusters in the hub but with the clearances i'm running between wheel/strut body I can't push them in much. The main reason for doing this is to make the top mount much smaller. It won't go any lower (1" under front crossmember as is until I chop it) but i'll have more suspension travel so it isn't on the bump stops
I was looking at pillow ball top bearings. Tein and HKS seem to do them as a separate item. Do they have another name, can't see anything similar on the SKF site but they might not use the same name.
Matt
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Sept 8, 2010 14:02:31 GMT
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Never seem them for Carltons, they have camber ajusters in the hub but with the clearances i'm running between wheel/strut body I can't push them in much. The main reason for doing this is to make the top mount much smaller. It won't go any lower (1" under front crossmember as is until I chop it) but i'll have more suspension travel so it isn't on the bump stops I was looking at pillow ball top bearings. Tein and HKS seem to do them as a separate item. Do they have another name, can't see anything similar on the SKF site but they might not use the same name. Matt Have you considered using a standard style top mount bearing, With the rubber bush built in? VW polo ones are very simple but are encased in a rubber bush that allows the other movement. They are also quite small compared to others.... www.veedubmachine.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=7_32&products_id=933 |
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stealthstylz
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Sept 10, 2010 2:17:51 GMT
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Sept 10, 2010 7:59:24 GMT
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i wouldn't have thought that would be strong enough, probably have to go bigger then have a sleeve or top-hat reducer to get back to your 10mm, you need to look at raidal load capacity for the bearing and then estimate the corner weight of the vehicle and factor in about 5G (or more) for hitting bumps potholes etc. that said if it did fail the whole lot isn't going to fall out so you'd maintain control.
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robg2
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Sept 10, 2010 13:40:21 GMT
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My Audi A6 (C4, 1995 car, same shape as last Audi 100) had top mounts with camber adjustment built in. The mount was actually two pieces bolted together, with elongated slots allowing adjustment. These were the OE mounts, and the loading on this heavy weight Audi will exceed that of your Carlton.
I can't actually find any pictures just at the moment, but I'm sure you will with some Googling.
Just a thought that it might save you some effort if you could easily adapt the Audi ones.
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Sept 10, 2010 14:11:51 GMT
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There are some universal ones here if you get fed up making some... |
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