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The user formerly known as Thomas
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Aug 29, 2010 19:37:39 GMT
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OK, I finally have a car that fits into the retro rides ethos (OK my bug did too but I wanted something more modern, and I still have my long term project......) ![](http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n193/Major_Tom_01/myphonepics040.jpg) ![](http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n193/Major_Tom_01/IMG_0112.jpg) ![](http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n193/Major_Tom_01/myphonepics039.jpg) is in pretty good condition, for a car that's lived in Scotland, needs a few bits and pieces done, but there mainly inconsequential stuff which I'm working on doing atm Worst problem is concerning the engine which is is somewhat tired, uses a lot of oil, and I think the head gasket is on its way out, so looking to replace it with something more powerful, I could just stick in a 1.3 out of a later polo gt but that's hardly exciting (I'm not a big fan of the smaller vw engines anyway), its a pity a "big block" vw motor wont fit without requiring major surgery on the chassis legs (so I'm led to believe anyway). I'm not sure what would fit easily tho as the engine bay is somewhat restricted for size, and most small (in physical size) engines aren't much better for power, or tuning so narrowed it down towas thinking Dihatsu charade turbo engine (but there hard to find and really out of my budget) or a Honda motor of some sort, and lastly the most sensible option a 1.3 out of a k11 micra (sure I can pick up a rusty mot fail one of those for buttons) not as powerful, but can be tuned, the standard engine only makes about 55bhp (so much for sport) 'so anything is an improvement *and yes I realise I could fit a g40 lump, but that's way out of my budget, if I could find one) At the moment though ill just be fixing the niggles, repainting the roof (the paint is pretty bad), and running it as it is, need a few bits tho so if anyone is breaking a Mk2 polo or whatever give me a shout
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Last Edit: Aug 29, 2010 20:03:40 GMT by Ratchet
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1971 vw beetle 1200 1978 international loadstar 1700 4x4 1987 landrover 110 1994 Yamaha FZR600r 2010 honda CBF100GT
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Aug 29, 2010 19:45:33 GMT
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you can go 1.4 with VAG lump easy enough, Skoda iirc.
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1989 polo coupe sretrowagen1234
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Aug 29, 2010 19:57:14 GMT
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Cool car... And without having a dig... Your wrong about the standard lump being un-tuneable... Ok so that ones been turbo'd But sorg and vw performance spent along time and alot of money making polos very competative without swapping engines out for the bigger brothers... All thats needed is an open mind. Personally i think g40's are over rated and wouldnt waste my money on one (AGAIN) Id say tune the lump you have. Theres lots that can be done on a budget... My lil 1043 loon went realy well with a 4 branch. My old 1100 bready went realy realy well with upped compression.. Or then theres fitting a solid lifter (rev happy) 1300 and a 1043 4 speed box for off the lights fun ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png) Oh and the standard compression ratio is fine to run a turbo.... ;D Think: Early 1300 lump (solid lifter head), lightened flywheel, balanced rods, skimmed head, passat Formal E? valves, 4 branch homebru porting job with a dremmel 4 speed 1043 ratios and a 1300 5th gear for the mway. possible bike carbs? Or just a well tuned weber and it would be different... Theres loads of stuff rocking about with gt/g40 engines... But no smaller engines that people have actually played with ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/grin.png)
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Aug 29, 2010 20:10:48 GMT
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I know you said you didn't really want to fit the later GT unit but bang for buck they are hard to beat. The 3F engine is 75 bhp to start with and allied to the short ratio final drive AHD box makes them a blast around the lanes. They can be tuned to a genuine 90 bhp with very little effort too. Best bit of all though is you can pick up a complete donor car for a few hundred quid and everything is a straight bolt in swap. Bar the usual headgasket weakness these engines are very strong and will go on for ever. I can understand why some prefer to be different with engine choice, but if your on a smallish budget and need a reliable but fun car at the end of it - go for the GT unit. It will be cheaper too. Good luck with it mate.
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The user formerly known as Thomas
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Aug 29, 2010 20:12:07 GMT
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Cool car... And without having a dig... Your wrong about the standard lump being un-tuneable... Ok so that ones been turbo'd But sorg and vw performance spent along time and alot of money making polos very competative without swapping engines out for the bigger brothers... All thats needed is an open mind. Personally I think g40's are over rated and wouldnt waste my money on one (AGAIN) Id say tune the lump you have. Theres lots that can be done on a budget... My lil 1043 loon went realy well with a 4 branch. My old 1100 bready went realy realy well with upped compression.. Or then theres fitting a solid lifter (rev happy) 1300 and a 1043 4 speed box for off the lights fun ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png) Oh and the standard compression ratio is fine to run a turbo.... ;D Think: Early 1300 lump (solid lifter head), lightened flywheel, balanced rods, skimmed head, passat Formal E? valves, 4 branch homebru porting job with a dremmel 4 speed 1043 ratios and a 1300 5th gear for the mway. possible bike carbs? Or just a well tuned weber and it would be different... Theres loads of stuff rocking about with gt/g40 engines... But no smaller engines that people have actually played with ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/grin.png) Thats sounds good, would certainly be easier than messing around swaping it over not sure on what condition my engine is in tho as i have a feeling its been abused a bit over its life (maybe should find another 1300 motor and build it up.....) I just assumed that they weren't easy to tune as i can find next to no information on them online (maybe my google fu is weak) and other then the odd camshaft and exhaust I've seen there is very little easily avaliable bits, bike carbs is somethign I'm looking at tho if i go down this route and i did think of doing a home brew turbo setup (before i thought of the micra thing)
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Competition is the law of the jungle, but cooperation is the law of civilization.
1971 vw beetle 1200 1978 international loadstar 1700 4x4 1987 landrover 110 1994 Yamaha FZR600r 2010 honda CBF100GT
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1989 polo coupe sretrowagen1234
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Aug 29, 2010 20:17:40 GMT
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turbo it!!! I looked into it quite alot and you could do it without touching the compression lol. Ive got a book on turbocharging a aircooled vw engine here, called turbomania.. Gives soooo much info on different ways of doing it. (Its for sale if interested ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png) ) Also its not just your google that cant find anything on tuning them. All the people that have the curse word to do it are in germany and alike.. Most people over here take the easy option of engine swaps... Bit boring if you ask me lol...
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The user formerly known as Thomas
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Aug 29, 2010 20:18:17 GMT
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I know you said you didn't really want to fit the later GT unit but bang for buck they are hard to beat. The 3F engine is 75 bhp to start with and allied to the short ratio final drive AHD box makes them a blast around the lanes. They can be tuned to a genuine 90 bhp with very little effort too. Best bit of all though is you can pick up a complete donor car for a few hundred quid and everything is a straight bolt in swap. Bar the usual headgasket weakness these engines are very strong and will go on for ever. I can understand why some prefer to be different with engine choice, but if your on a smallish budget and need a reliable but fun car at the end of it - go for the GT unit. It will be cheaper too. Good luck with it mate. yeah.. starting to think that might be a better idea lol, if i can find a doner car, they are a bit thin on the ground up here now sadly, i heard the fuel injection loom plugs straight into the non fuel injected loom? is that correct? i guess i need the fuel injection tank and pump etc too.
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Competition is the law of the jungle, but cooperation is the law of civilization.
1971 vw beetle 1200 1978 international loadstar 1700 4x4 1987 landrover 110 1994 Yamaha FZR600r 2010 honda CBF100GT
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1989 polo coupe sretrowagen1234
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Aug 29, 2010 20:23:38 GMT
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I know you said you didn't really want to fit the later GT unit but bang for buck they are hard to beat. The 3F engine is 75 bhp to start with and allied to the short ratio final drive AHD box makes them a blast around the lanes. They can be tuned to a genuine 90 bhp with very little effort too. Best bit of all though is you can pick up a complete donor car for a few hundred quid and everything is a straight bolt in swap. Bar the usual headgasket weakness these engines are very strong and will go on for ever. I can understand why some prefer to be different with engine choice, but if your on a smallish budget and need a reliable but fun car at the end of it - go for the GT unit. It will be cheaper too. Good luck with it mate. yeah.. starting to think that might be a better idea lol, if I can find a doner car, they are a bit thin on the ground up here now sadly, I heard the fuel injection loom plugs straight into the non fuel injected loom? is that correct? I guess I need the fuel injection tank and pump etc too. You need the tank , liftpump, ecu and engine bay wiring along with the complete engine and downpipe for the lambda sensor. And they are thin on the ground everywhere now... they keep getting broken ![:P](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/tongue.png)
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Aug 29, 2010 20:27:28 GMT
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The user formerly known as Thomas
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Aug 29, 2010 20:36:25 GMT
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yeah, though scrappage etc has seemingly killed a lot of mk2 and mk2f polos up here, used to be hundreds of them, but there a rare sight now out of interest will the later (mk2f) dash fit the early mk2? my one has been butchered (drill holes for speakers i think) and if i got a doner car i could swap it all
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Competition is the law of the jungle, but cooperation is the law of civilization.
1971 vw beetle 1200 1978 international loadstar 1700 4x4 1987 landrover 110 1994 Yamaha FZR600r 2010 honda CBF100GT
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Aug 29, 2010 20:38:38 GMT
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Yeah, that's why it's best to get a complete car if you can. Apart from obviously the complete engine and gearbox, you'll basically need, The engine bay and ECU wiring loom and ECU. Fuel tank with lift pump and bracket under car with filter, inline pump and accumulator. Fuel lines that run under the car. You may as well use the rear axle too as it has a built in anti roll bar. You'll need to use your old rear brake assemblies (or at least wheel cylinders though) as the GT/G40 uses a load sensing valve and the wheel cylinders are a different size. You'll also need the remote gearlever linkage from the GT too. You should be ok with the front ARB clearing the 5 speed box as yours is a later model mk2, but check them side by side before throwing anything away.
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The user formerly known as Thomas
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Aug 29, 2010 20:46:45 GMT
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vw papaya orange ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) same as the roof not atm, but i intend on taking some soon, sadly one wheel has a bit of a dent in the rim so going to need that fixed
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Competition is the law of the jungle, but cooperation is the law of civilization.
1971 vw beetle 1200 1978 international loadstar 1700 4x4 1987 landrover 110 1994 Yamaha FZR600r 2010 honda CBF100GT
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The user formerly known as Thomas
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May 15, 2011 18:51:55 GMT
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Well long time since this was updated.... had a major lack of mojo, almost sold it but didn't, so I've decided to fix all the stuff that annoyed me on it, and start using it again (well not that i use a car often as i use my motorcycle most days, but sometimes you need one) main reason i got annoyed at it was running issues, i think I've traced that to the rubber carb gasket (shock) so hopefully once that comes it will actually idle OK and not stall, secondly the wheels.. they look good, but are totally wrong offset for the car, as there mini wheels so it handles terribly, also the fact its running low profiles makes the speedo read out by 10mph third was the paint on the roof, its pretty bad, and makes the car look tatty up close, ![](http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n193/Major_Tom_01/IMG_0329.jpg) *i'd started rubbing it down there, but you can see all the marks over it when paint seems to have been sprayed when it was wet Anyway I've managed to find a set of 14" gti bottle tops for it to replace the superlites, need to get them refurbed and get tyres for them, anyone know what size i should be going for? think 185/60/14 will be too tall, but I'm not sure? As i need to repaint the roof, i decided to take the opportunity to change the colour, and go for a light blue, had a quick look round halfords and found this ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/grin.png) *test sprayed on a can to see what it looks like ![](http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n193/Major_Tom_01/IMG_0332.jpg) always liked that colour and it should go ok, I'm somewhat amused that halfords still sell it though i mean not like ladas in that shade were ever really common was it, even 20 years ago i started rubbing down the roof, removed the gutter trims as they hadn't been taken off last time it was done (will need to find one as it was broken already, they get brittle and hard to remove without breaking) think the head gasket has gone, once i get the carb fixed illl take it a run and see (it loses water, but doesn't seem to boil or airlock) oh and before i get it all done, anyone fancy shopping this pic with gti bottle caps and a blue roof? ![](http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n193/Major_Tom_01/IMG_0327.jpg)
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May 15, 2011 20:02:57 GMT
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Sweet looking car, Do like the wheels, they really suit it.
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May 15, 2011 20:11:28 GMT
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Sweet looking car, Do like the wheels, they really suit it. yeah they look good, if the offset was somewhere near what it should be id leave them on, they do stick out way to much at the front though
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Competition is the law of the jungle, but cooperation is the law of civilization.
1971 vw beetle 1200 1978 international loadstar 1700 4x4 1987 landrover 110 1994 Yamaha FZR600r 2010 honda CBF100GT
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EmDee
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May 16, 2011 10:17:41 GMT
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185/50/14s on 14x6 et35 are the way forward, my speedo is bang on with them and it handles great without being too harsh. Might want some spacers on the back to get the stance right if you're a tart like me.
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The user formerly known as Thomas
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May 16, 2011 20:29:55 GMT
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did a little more work on it today, laid the first coats of high build primer on it, going to need another coat, but it decided to rain as I was rubbing the first one down ![](http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n193/Major_Tom_01/IMG_0333.jpg) ![](http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n193/Major_Tom_01/IMG_0335.jpg) As you can see still needs sanding to get rid of the low spots (looks like rain spots in the pic, was where the top coat had been seemingly painted over rain), yes I know I should have sanded the orange right back, but was going to take an age, and the paint seems well attached, good enough to paint over (I'm impatient lol) another coat should do it, looks better already thankfully
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Last Edit: May 16, 2011 21:07:54 GMT by Ratchet
Competition is the law of the jungle, but cooperation is the law of civilization.
1971 vw beetle 1200 1978 international loadstar 1700 4x4 1987 landrover 110 1994 Yamaha FZR600r 2010 honda CBF100GT
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May 17, 2011 14:40:46 GMT
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don't change the engine just tune it I have a mate whos got a mk2 derby running a 1.3 polo engine that's beating all gt's and nearly keeping up with g40's and he hasn't done to much to it (he can do a lot more) oh and i had a go at the photoshop you asked for : ![](http://i576.photobucket.com/albums/ss209/azzy9998/blueandbottle.jpg)
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Last Edit: May 17, 2011 15:04:46 GMT by azzy9998
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