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Can you help?  Deadlines are upon me, I need to find insurance within the week. I really wanted to do this to the sapph, and have a plan for the camera mount. I just don't know if its a bit too extreme for filming on public roads. This Merc is used un Taxi 2 and i recon roads are closed for it (you'd expect so)!  I can hold the man in with a chair and belt or have him sat there with rock climbing harness. I could set a tripod in the boot for remote use from inside (the car is then not a modified one really and i can insure anywhere now) Or i could sack off the nice reliable sapph and get an Escort cabrio instead  Help is welcomed i got few days till i heve to find insurance... Cheers |
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Time to chop the saff in for a 4x4 or estate really. Much be much less hassle.
Something with a split tailgate (or better a drop-glass window at the back like that 70's chevy impala on eBay last week), so that you've got a 'barrier' to stop the cameraman falling out....
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Yeah, up until seeing Taxi 2 out takes I was dead set on a cabrio, Cab doubles up as summer fun too. plenty of places to mount camera and monitor, just might get wet, who cares about that!  . Then i thought, the sapph, hang about its possible and ideal. but :s having a man in the back of the sapph would no doubt cause a bit of a mischief with road users, not super discreet on our roads is it! Will bear that in mind pogweasel, i so nearly put a bid on that guys Datsun 300(?) luxury estate that was in FS section a bit back... |
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it doesn't matter if it's a Morris Marina or a Toyota Celica - it's what you do with it that counts |
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it doesn't matter if it's a Morris Marina or a Toyota Celica - it's what you do with it that counts |
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Mar 20, 2006 10:24:18 GMT
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You need an old Citroen CX or XM estate with the tailgate removed!
I believe the BBC used to use CX's for racing coverage...if you can film horses running whilst driving on grass it's got to be good!
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Mar 20, 2006 10:29:45 GMT
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Thanks, are those XM's any good? i hear about citroens falling to bits. citroen air suspension could be good if its got it. So far everyones agreeing to chop in the faithful sapph? It might be time... Cabrio a good idea?  i like, could be cheap too. |
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Mar 20, 2006 10:33:58 GMT
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Estate pwns cabrio as soon as the weather decides to get all 'british'. XM would be a spectacularly cool move in my book.  Not as scary as you might think, either. plus there's a small army of inexpensive citroen specialists out there should the worst happen... I've found these guys helpful in the past: www.chevronics.co.uk/ |
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Mar 20, 2006 10:41:08 GMT
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Great, i do love the futurisic looks of them things, any idea what i'm looking for if i go to buy one? or is it time for a new thread on this..
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Mar 20, 2006 10:43:00 GMT
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Given their shape, even a non-estate XM would do the job - and there's loads on the 'bay! ^ that Nissan 300C looked very tempting until I read the words 'welding' and 'inner wings' in the same sentence! ^  XM-abulous! |
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Mar 20, 2006 10:44:53 GMT
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I've had perverse likings for a satin black XM on steels for some time now...Can you leave them on full-drop all the time?
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Top grammar tips!
Bought = purchased. Brought = relocated
Lose = misplace/opposite of win. Loose = your mum
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Mar 20, 2006 10:47:09 GMT
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I do like them things too, and its a classic even though its new too, something crazy might happen here... would a diesel be an ok move, guessing it may have a pug lump? Shouldnt rule out the king of estates here too  |
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Mar 20, 2006 10:49:29 GMT
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rust & skimped maintanance are your enemies where these citroens are concerned. Look for full histories / wads of recipts from specialists. Electrical maladies are to be expected, but as long as it's only minor stuff you'll be OK. Turbo Diesel estates are the ones to go for & will run forever... probably best to pay top dollar for a good one than be fooled into thinking a down-at-heel monster-miler petrol is a good investment Something like this:  xm td wagon |
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Last Edit: Mar 20, 2006 10:50:03 GMT by arthurbrown
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Mar 20, 2006 10:51:13 GMT
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Mar 20, 2006 11:04:03 GMT
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That bloke on the gadget show (Channel 5 or Men & Motors I think?) made a steadycam for about a tenner (minus camera, obviously) in one show...that with the Volvo/Citroen would be all you needed!
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Mar 20, 2006 11:05:28 GMT
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Mar 20, 2006 11:20:31 GMT
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You guys are a bad good influence. Thanks. Youre right, the last thing i need is my kit and operator getting wethered on! That means the Good ol sapph may be for sale in the very near future  On the look for a Volvo or XM now then. Volvo, hard as nails but not too ecomomical XM, stylish (argumentative), cheap on diesel and trick suspension already fitted, but scary electronics. Hmmm  |
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Mar 20, 2006 11:48:58 GMT
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I vote with the others, get shot of the Saph and don't do the cabrio. Working out of the boot like in the Merc means you'll need an intercom system in between the driver and cameraman, plus a Saph boot will not be big enough. As for the cabrio, you won't have enough low down angle options without doing a clamp on, plus you can't secure it with kit inside...
Go for the XM, the BBC used 2CV's, CXs and XMs as tracking cars, and for good reason. The suspension is about as good as it gets for your needs from a standard car, plus it's big enough to manouvere around in the back with a camera.
Fact is you'll get pulled over as soon as the plod see you filming anyway, but as long as you can show you're safe you should be fine (not fined). The biggest ball ache is when they try and do you for being a distraction to other road users, and this is quite obviously easy for them to accuse you of, to this end, consider having the tailgate removeable on some sort of quick release pins, much better than driving around with the boot open. Plus the wind pressure above about 20mph instantly slams it shut, so you need a monopod or the like to hold it up.
A titanium scraping block on the bottom of the camera using a tripod mount is a good idea for tracking shots too... You can never be too careful, plus it makes for a great effect when you scrape the road and film. ;D
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Volvo, Buggy, Discovery and an old tractor.
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Mar 20, 2006 11:56:01 GMT
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Thanks for that. the Sapph has gotta go. Really appreciate the input. need to find a sweet xm now Anyone wanna buy a Sapph? |
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Mar 20, 2006 11:59:28 GMT
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Oh and try routing the exhaust away from the rear valance area, we nearly lost a photographer to fumes in the back of Capri 2.8i... ;D
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Volvo, Buggy, Discovery and an old tractor.
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Mar 20, 2006 12:15:57 GMT
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Yeah Good point, i was already thinking about side pipes. Hope the chaps ok now!  |
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