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Conversely, does anyone on here have any proof that they are perfectly safe and tested stretched tyres to the limit? Thought not. Taken them round a circuit at the (modest) limits of my car.. car okay, me okay. But they aren't for driving at limits, for that we have proper wheels and tyres. As Will Smith said : Its for the look, I don't light it...  |
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Has anyone ever actually tested to see wether there unsafe, is there any reports? don't give me manufactur recommended limits, there just there as a sensible cover, I mean has a manufacturer ever taken such a stretch and proved that were all gonna die? Me? I blasted love em!!! Conversely, does anyone on here have any proof that they are perfectly safe and tested stretched tyres to the limit? Thought not. Erm, thousands of drift0rz who punish their tyres to the absolute limit and beyond. And I've yet to see a stretched tyre come off. Oh and Lexus obvious feel it's safe enough that they run stretched tyres on their roadgoing 'tuner' cars (i'll get my pics from the NYIAS a it later). The reality is that there is nothing more dangerous abut fitting tyres to oversized wheels than to the recommended size other than a slight reduction in 'forgiveness' on the limit and stiffer sidewalls, and if you drive to the limits of the tyres (as you would usually) then you aren't going to crash into a bus full of nun's. |
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LowStandards
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Has anyone ever actually tested to see wether there unsafe, is there any reports? don't give me manufactur recommended limits, there just there as a sensible cover, I mean has a manufacturer ever taken such a stretch and proved that were all gonna die? Me? I blasted love em!!! Conversely, does anyone on here have any proof that they are perfectly safe and tested stretched tyres to the limit? Thought not. EXACTLY what I wanted you to say! ...and on that bombshell, I suggest silence on your behalf, untill, as mentioned tirelessly, a bus full of nuns / crate full of kittens is harmed!!! As a lil aside, i've been in a drift car wth stretched tyres, i'd happily say these guys push tyres past any sort punishment they'll ever get on the road! Strangely, not one tyre came off the rim, de-laminated, fell apart etc |
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stealthstylz
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I've gone very sideways at 100mph on stretched tyres. I've run over a brick with a stretched tyre. I've driven down heavily potholed roads with tyres with so much stretch that I was kerbing the rim edge as the tyre dropped into the pothole and the wheel hit the raised bits.
Never had any problems and never heard of anybody having any problems. Only time i've heard of one popping off the rim is when somebody hit a kerb at 50mph, which would do the same with the correct sized tyre anyway.
In the rain i'd feel safer driving in a group of cars with mega stretched tyres than driving with a group of the joe public. Going by the cars I see at work / my old job as a tyre fitter i'd say about 30% of people drive round with some sort of problem with their tyres, be it heavy wear or massive under/over inflation. Scariest thing is most of them don't realise it's a problem.
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It's OK everyone, calm down, put all of your toys back in all of your prams, it's just a tyre, it's not the General Election or something that really is important. Give it 18 months when the next 'fad' comes along and you'll have all gone off them anyway. I remember people getting their panties in a bunch like this over the safety of jack-up kits and people getting all precious about those. And look what happened there... ;D  You people on this forum are just so funny to watch sometimes, this is better than TV! I just hope you're all very good at parallel parking... ;D |
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you aren't going to crash into a bus full of nun's.   |
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I don't usually like massive stretch,but they look bang on. Incidentally,does anyone remember RR gathering at Mallory with the ra28 celica with stretched tyres?  |
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It's OK everyone, calm down, put all of your toys back in all of your prams, it's just a tyre, it's not the General Election or something that really is important. Give it 18 months when the next 'fad' comes along and you'll have all gone off them anyway. I remember people getting their panties in a bunch like this over the safety of jack-up kits and people getting all precious about those. And look what happened there... ;D You people on this forum are just so funny to watch sometimes, this is better than TV! I just hope you're all very good at parallel parking... ;D It just reminds me a lot of the current health and safety 'fad' that definitely wont be going away in 18months. What's next after the ill-educated have stretched tyres banned because they're untested? Lowered suspension? Wide arches? Aftermarket wheels? It'll end up like germany where everything HAS to be tested and and modifying of cars is put well out of the price range of many people (myself included). Oh and in Germany they love their stretched tyres  |
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I don't usually like massive stretch,but they look bang on. Incidentally,does anyone remember RR gathering at Mallory with the ra28 celica with stretched tyres? I was sort of hoping that wouldnt be brought up ;D but who's to say it was because of stretched tyres? I've seen that happen with normally fitted tyres in motorsport events due to tyre bead failure or low pressure. Of course stretched tyres aren't going to help in those cases but that just means extra care is needed, as with any modification. FWIW I'm not a great fan of stretched tyres |
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just out of interest how do you declare streched tyres to your insurance
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Last Edit: Apr 20, 2010 8:34:43 GMT by maskedavenger
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Incidentally,does anyone remember RR gathering at Mallory with the ra28 celica with stretched tyres? Yeah that was bonkers, he was bouncing it off the rumble strips in and out of the chicane each lap, I suspect he could have unseated a normal tyre after a few more laps. Just goes to show these aren't for bouncing off rumble strips, they are for cruising (or drifting  ). Don't take a knife to a gun fight. |
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Dez
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stretched tyres are nothing new. theyve been around in professional series motorsport (including F1) since the sixties.
before low profile tyres existed (hell, radials were the 'new thing'!!) the only way to loose the inherent roll (and the unpredicatble handling this gives) from a full profile tyre was to fit the tyre to a wider rim so the sidewalls sloped outwards. trufact.
they also pioneered welded diffs, chopped springs and banded steels.......
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Last Edit: Apr 20, 2010 8:38:17 GMT by Dez
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Incidentally,does anyone remember RR gathering at Mallory with the ra28 celica with stretched tyres?    ;D |
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[ Yeah that was bonkers, he was bouncing it off the rumble strips in and out of the chicane each lap, I suspect he could have unseated a normal tyre after a few more laps. Yeah,he certainly wasn't pulling his punches. I don't know if the stretch was the direct cause of that de-rimmage, (stretch + that right hand curb) it may have been a contributing factor...who knows,but i just though it relevant to the discussion. Here's a better pic of the 'offending' stretch  |
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If you look at the second picture I posted it looked like the rim split, not sure if that was before or after the tyre went though.
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[ Love the rims....what make are they? |
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They look like Compomotive TFs to me.
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You people on this forum are just so funny to watch sometimes, this is better than TV!
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