chamba
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Mar 29, 2010 22:56:06 GMT
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I'm considering the garage options at what may be my next house (fingers crossed) and I'm looking at something measuring around 24' x 10'. Wooden garages are ticking the right boxes for me at the minute. The main reason is that (I think) planning permission will be a little easier to come by. Other than that, they look and breathe better than concrete garages and are reasonably insulative. That's the pros (anyone got any more?), but what are the cons? I'm thinking security might always be a weak area and I don't know how safe it would be if I unleashed the MIG inside.... any of you out there do welding work in wooden garages??? Would like to hear your opinions, thanks
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Mar 30, 2010 20:42:22 GMT
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Its a myth that planning is any different for wooden buildings. If you need planning to put a concrete garage you'll need planning to put up a wooden one. Check with the planning department of your local council, they are really helpful people and they do this for a living. They can give far better advice on your specific issues than some random fellows on the internet. With the best will in the world planning laws change and there are some local variations with how they are worked. The basic jist is that to make the planning process easier for folks like you and me a few years back the government passed new laws allowing "reasonable curtilage development" which to you and me means that you can put up a shed, garage, kids tree house, summer house, band stand, pagoda, whatever on your own property with certain caveats but without any planning permission. What you will still need on a large garage (I think its garages over 80 CUBIC metres) is building regulations approval. This is far better than planning permission because unlike planning where all your neighbours, local councillors and general busy bodies having their say the building regs is just between you and the borough surveyor and he's just making sure via his team of building inspectors that what you put up is safe and legal. You will be charged for this and when I did mine there was a sliding scale depending on size of building and my fees were something in the range of £240 or £260. Again your council may charge £5 or £5000 for the same thing, so ask. I got my garage from www.warwickbuildings.co.uk and I can't say enough good things about them. I have had a 1968 Plymouth with part of the rear quarter panel stripped to bare metal, in the garage, unprotected, over a British winter, for 6 months and it has no sign of surface rust on it. That is my #1 reason for going with wood garage. NO RUST. There are a bunch of other reasons, environmentally they are better than concrete, the look nicer, they don't echo so you neighbours won't hear so much what you are up to, thermal properties are supposed to be better too, etc. One thing to remember to add to the costs is that if you are within 3 metres of a property boundary with a wooden building you need to fire retard it. I lined mine with Gyproc board which is similar to what you put behind gas fires. Again, if you need to do this sort of thing you need to agree it with the building inspector first. No point spending money on stuff because I said thats what was OK 5 years ago in Nottingham only to find its not OK where you live today. People moan about building inspectors, planning offices, etc. but I have always found they give advice free and if you follow the advice you are golden. Its generally people who try pull one over on them or think they know better and try do something else who end up in tears/court or whatever. FWIW here is mine: 28'x20'
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chamba
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Mar 31, 2010 19:44:58 GMT
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Hi Alistair, thanks for the very interesting info. I've looked only had a quick look so far on my local council website so still taking it all in. As you say it's best if I actually speak to a person on the planning dept for sound advice. Must admit, I didn't consider anything about fire retarding, but that sounds like a smart idea in any event if I'm gonna get happy in there with the MIG! Love the setup you've got there, lucky fella! I've also heard good things about these guys - www.chartstables.co.uk/docs/buildings/Timber_Garages.shtml so I'm going to have to do a fair bit of investigation and comparison
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chamba
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Good God that garage also had me drooling! Unfortunately it's about double my budget. Looking like wood is the one for me. The other option is brick base with some kind of self built wood cladded stud wall structure. Not priced that option up yet, but I doubt it would be too competitive.
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brick built is pricey.
Also brick is wider than wood so you lose more internal space for the (exterior) dimensions of the build. Every mm counts with my big cars...
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1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1994 Ford Fiesta
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ive seen his garage and it was a great just been looking on there site as once i sell my flat and buy a house i want a nice garage to
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