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Mar 16, 2010 19:18:59 GMT
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Nowthen.
I've tried the wiki but I'm not rolling a double 6 and doing the secret handshake so it isn't working for me :-(
someone on here must know that the centre bore of a t25 camper wheel is??
Help!!
Cheers guys n gals
coop
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Remember the days when sex was safe and motorsport was dangerous. Vintage bling always attracts pussy.
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mrj
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Mar 16, 2010 19:33:06 GMT
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the double six wasn't soo bad 66,6 millimeters....
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Last Edit: Mar 16, 2010 19:34:19 GMT by mrj
- 1971 VW 1600 TL Fastback - 1978 Passat GLS Variant - 1980 Audi 100 5E - 1981 VW aircooled panel van (sold) - 1983 VW Jetta Mk.I - 1984 VW Polo Coupé - 1984 VW Passat hatchback - 1987 VW Passat Variant - 1987 VW Passat hatchback - 1988 VW T25
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Mar 16, 2010 19:33:39 GMT
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66mm.
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I like dubs, I like the 80's
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Mar 16, 2010 19:39:31 GMT
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Since the T"25" has never been hubcentric and they came with a variety of wheels that vary in centerbore diameter, it would be helpful to know which wheels you are talking about and what you plan to do with them.
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Mar 16, 2010 19:42:29 GMT
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Good point, although they're not hubcentric you'll need a minimum centrebore of 66mm to clear the grease caps.
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I like dubs, I like the 80's
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Mar 16, 2010 19:50:59 GMT
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That's why I asked what he was doing with them. Though there aren't many wheels that this applies to, you can get away with as little as a 63-4mm centerbore to clear the lips on the grease cap and if you trim the lips down, you can go all way down to 60.1mm...just for the record.
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The wheels i wanted were some new caddy steel wheels on sale in the parts thread, 57.7 I think, but seeing as they arnt hubcentric could I not just clearance them??
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Remember the days when sex was safe and motorsport was dangerous. Vintage bling always attracts pussy.
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Barring any regulations you guys over there might have for such a thing, yes, you can have the centerbores of the wheels machined larger. We do it all the time over here (US)...even on the steel wheels.
I always suggest that the wheels be opened up to 66.56mm. This is the same centerbore diameter of the Mercedes. Doing this allows your wheels the possible use on Mercedes cars and also allows you to install hubcentric rings if you ever wanted to put them back on a 57.1mm centerbored car.
If you want to tell me the size and offset of the wheels you are considering as well as the tire size you plan to run, I can tell you exactly what thickness spacers, if any, will be needed as well as what length front lug bolts (assuming 2wd here) and rear studs if needed.
Also, be aware that the stock T25 steel wheel lug nuts do not have the appropriate seat profile to fit the lug seats of any of the AUDI/VW wheels...even the steel wheels. I can set you up with any wheel hardware you might need. Just let me know.
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mrj
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i don't know if you already knew, but you don't have to take the rear hub off to fit longer studs/change the studs in most cases ... you can take them out with a hammer and pull them in with the nut : i have put a small tube or a socket in between and pulled them in ... taking off the rear hub is a bit tricky, as it is tightened with a stupid torque, and if the studs are not too long, it might be worth a try ....
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- 1971 VW 1600 TL Fastback - 1978 Passat GLS Variant - 1980 Audi 100 5E - 1981 VW aircooled panel van (sold) - 1983 VW Jetta Mk.I - 1984 VW Polo Coupé - 1984 VW Passat hatchback - 1987 VW Passat Variant - 1987 VW Passat hatchback - 1988 VW T25
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Mar 17, 2010 15:04:06 GMT
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They are 6x16 with an offset et50, no tyres on em so can get whatever size fits best, Cool! For tires, most people over here opt for something in the 215/60 to 225/55 range in order to keep the rolling diameter close to stock...although most of our wheels are 7" wide. For the 6" wide wheels, I might consider a 205/65. It all kind of depends on what you have available to you over there. I know that you guys do things a little bit differently than we do here in the States, so I will just lay out what I would do in your situation and let you run with it. From a suspension geometry standpoint, the ideal offset is 30mm. In order to achieve a 30mm offset, you would need 20mm spacers. I really don't like any spacers that are thicker that 15mm. Thicker than 15mm and I switch to custom adapters. With 15mm spacers, you would have plenty for front suspension clearance with either the 205s or the 215s, but 225s would be cutting it too thin. If you decide to run 225s and go with regular old spacers, try to keep them as thin as possible. For clearance with a 225 on a 6" wheel, I would go with a 17mm thick spacer. No clearance issues at the rear with any of the described combinations. The wheels in question are designed for a R12 ball seat lug. Ball seat lug bolts that are appropriate for OEM AUDI or later VW wheels would work great on those wheels. For the rear lug nuts (and front if you have stud conversions installed), you will want a R12 lug nut (I have these custom made for me as they never came stock on any production car. I have them in stock if you decide to go that route). The stock T25 lug nuts are R14 and do not make full contact with the lug seat surface. If you go with the 15mm spacers, you will need 40mm long front lug bolts or 49-53mm long front conversion studs (ideal length). Your rear wheel studs will need to be 48-52mm long. (ideal length). If you go with 17mm spacers, you could still get away with 40mm long front lug bolts, but I would bump the conversion stud length up to 51-55mm long front conversion studs (ideal length) and the rear wheel studs to 50-54mm long. (ideal length). Hope that helps.
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Right, well the studs I've got are the screw in type and I'm using stock nuts, M14 x2.5 I think, will your R12 nuts fit or will I need to replace the studs?
To be honest I need to replace the studs anyway as half of them are buggered.
Thanks for all the help and info, offsets have always confused me a little.
Coop
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Dec 30, 2012 21:24:40 GMT
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Hi Guys, lve bought a set of Merc Vito steel wheels for my T25 do l need to fit spigot rings and will the bolts be ok or will l need Merc Bolts?? any help appreciated
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Dec 30, 2012 22:47:48 GMT
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Hi Guys, lve bought a set of Merc Vito steel wheels for my T25 do l need to fit spigot rings and will the bolts be ok or will l need Merc Bolts?? any help appreciated No spigot rings - the central spigot on t25s is not for locating wheels, it's just there to cover the hub nut. The vw bolts/nuts should be fine.
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