dalek
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Mar 16, 2010 11:00:26 GMT
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I've been searching on and off all morning for a thread i'm sure i've seen on here about DIY rust removal. It was all about removing rust from old bolts etc, think vinegar was involved Can somebody help me find the thread in question please ? Have some pics of rust for your trouble Cheers Craig
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spiny
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Mar 16, 2010 11:02:56 GMT
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Mar 16, 2010 11:16:07 GMT
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Copied from one of my previous posts:
Main constituent/active ingredient in rust eater is Phosphoric acid.
Go to your local farm supplies shop and buy a gallon of "Milk Stone Remover" This is for cleaning out pipes in dairies, but it's basically 40% Phosphoric acid and costs about £12.
Put it in a Mr Muscle gun, and soak everything that is rusting or might rust - it will stop it in it's tracks as long as it doesn't get too damp afterwards.
Wear gloves and goggles - it's pretty nasty stuff neat, even if the spray residue gets in your eyes it hurts.
It's a brilliant key for paint.
It will clean steel if dunked, but is even better on ally.
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Mar 16, 2010 11:30:40 GMT
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From Wikipedia for "Phosphoric Acid":
Rust removal Phosphoric acid may be used as a "rust converter", by direct application to rusted iron, steel tools, or surfaces. The phosphoric acid converts reddish-brown iron(III) oxide (rust) to black ferric phosphate, FePO4.
"Rust converter" is sometimes a greenish liquid suitable for dipping (in the same sort of acid bath as is used for pickling metal), but it is more often formulated as a gel, commonly called naval jelly. It is sometimes sold under other names, such as "rust remover" or "rust killer". As a thick gel, it may be applied to sloping, vertical, or even overhead surfaces.
After treatment, the black ferric-phosphate coating can be scrubbed off, leaving a fresh metal surface. Multiple applications of phosphoric acid may be required to remove all rust. The black phosphate coating can also be left in place, where it will provide moderate further corrosion resistance. (Such protection is also provided by the superficially similar Parkerizing and blued electrochemical conversion coating processes.)
Allegedly, if you remove the phosphate coating and collect it, it can be used to keep snails and slugs away from plants too.
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'83 GTM Coupe. 4A-GE Powered '00 GTM Libra Auto. Ick. '71 Detomaso Pantera. Current Resto '89 GMC Safari Tow/Kip bus '05 SAAB 9-3 Daily '71 Siva Moonbug. Not even contemplating resto yet.
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dalek
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Mar 16, 2010 11:31:34 GMT
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Thanks Chaps :-)
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Mar 16, 2010 13:58:04 GMT
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Just buy some Bilt Hamber Deox C, drop the bits in - job done
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Mar 16, 2010 15:54:19 GMT
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Copied from one of my previous posts: Main constituent/active ingredient in rust eater is Phosphoric acid. Go to your local farm supplies shop and buy a gallon of "Milk Stone Remover" This is for cleaning out pipes in dairies, but it's basically 40% Phosphoric acid and costs about £12. Put it in a Mr Muscle gun, and soak everything that is rusting or might rust - it will stop it in it's tracks as long as it doesn't get too damp afterwards. Wear gloves and goggles - it's pretty nasty stuff neat, even if the spray residue gets in your eyes it hurts. It's a brilliant key for paint. It will clean steel if dunked, but is even better on ally. just dip /spray on and leave ....or rinse /wipe off at all?
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Tomarse
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Mar 19, 2010 22:19:23 GMT
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Just buy some Bilt Hamber Deox C, drop the bits in - job done That's what I was going to say. I have a cauldron of it in the shed. Great stuff. ;D
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RetroMat
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Mar 19, 2010 22:48:25 GMT
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great guide! I've now got most of my toyota steering box now soaking in 13p vinegar! It working just as well as any hammerite product!
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Last Edit: Mar 19, 2010 22:49:48 GMT by RetroMat
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namless
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vinegar is amazing, had to refurbish the seized callipers on the triumph, wire brushed the loose rust dismantled them and soaked them in vinegar for a couple of days, and walllah!! I was quite impressed with the results ;D thou I needed about 4 bottles per calliper
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