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Okay folks I've got a question,.. how safe are sheel spacers?
There are a few wheels out there with offsets that just arn't quite far out enough, but a spacer would see them spot on... are there are rules to adhere to?
On a similar subject,... if you want to widen the track of the car at the front and the back whats the best way of going about it?
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i've never heard of anyone having problems with wheels spacers.
i would always make sure they are the top quality billet stuff though. I think Mikeys range goes up to about 25mm. And if he wasnt 100% confident with it, he wouldnt sell it.
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Are we talking FWD or RWD car? And is the purpose cosmetic or for handling / power?
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RWD Essentially cosmetic... but wouldn't want it to break under power... The full on track widening stuff would be for a suitable race car
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dp
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hotwire in da house: how safe are sheel spacers?
I have used spacers and adapters on cars for years, never had a problem with it as long as it's well made billet stuff, not the cheapo parts shop parts. It's all about common sence, don't go to wide, 25mm on each wheel feels like max, make sure your wheel bolts are long enough but not to long and of a good quality, check spacers & adapters for a almost 100% perfect fit before bolting it all up, take your time test fitting on each wheel!!!! Take it all apart and check it every now and then to make sure there are no stress cracks....
Go for it......
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SteB
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Jan 17, 2006 10:01:30 GMT
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Its not uncommon for cars running wider wheels with spacers to start chewing wheel bearings up all over the place, gets expensive after a while. Just a thought.
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Jan 17, 2006 10:05:12 GMT
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...with every single Mini my friends and I have ever run
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SteB
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Jan 17, 2006 10:09:15 GMT
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Yup. I ran some 13x8 minilites for less than 500 miles on my polo and it had two grumbling bearings by the end of it. !
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Jan 17, 2006 10:17:56 GMT
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I know yours is RWD HoTWire, but I've seen spacers for the back of golfs like mine that go behind the stub axle, so there's no extra load on the wheel bearings. I want to widen the track on mine but keep the P-Slots I think (at the moment anyway) so that's what I need
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Jan 17, 2006 12:21:36 GMT
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Wheel spacers are quite common on 240/260Z models and I know RWD Datsuns will generally cope with them. I had spacers on my old 810.
Can I assume that won't be towing anything? Watch out for fast bends too. I had issues with 'wiggling' for some reason - might be something to do with the tyres though.
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Jan 17, 2006 12:25:27 GMT
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Watch out for fast bends too. I had issues with 'wiggling' for some reason - might be something to do with the tyres though. Wider track putting increased pressure on already worn axle locating bushes?
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Jan 17, 2006 12:40:55 GMT
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Wheel spacers are quite common on 240/260Z models and I know RWD Datsuns will generally cope with them. I think that a lot of Z applications are to correct offset discrepancies with other wheels, as they (I think) had 0 offset. The spacers would actually put the wheels where they should be.
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Jan 17, 2006 13:48:45 GMT
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arent isuzu piazza rear axles slightly wider? and pretty much bolt in job? altho think the shock mounts are different on chuvit saloons.? anyone suggest anything else?
oh if you are going to use spacers buy new bolts the correct length, for your wheels and spacers combined please!! your motor factors should be able to advise, i hope, or someone a bit more knowlegable than me on here! (that will be everyone then!) lol
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Jan 17, 2006 13:53:18 GMT
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was speaking to an engineering shop about this as was looking to have some made
one of the geezer was into racing and said anything over 25mm put extra strain on so wouldnt go any wider..............
just buy deeper dish lol
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2001 HONDA CT110 (NOT RCV)
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Jan 17, 2006 19:04:46 GMT
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I have ran them for a few years on my MK1 escort for competion use only as I needed to widen the front track to match the atlas axle at the back. I have never had a wheel bearing problem but I know it will limit the life of the bearings. Probably change to grp 4 hubs when I rebuild it. Realistically they shouldnt affect the life any more than a wide deep dished wheel. Although a deep dish wheel plus wheel spacers is gonna put a lot for strain on them.
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Jan 17, 2006 21:49:06 GMT
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aye anything up to 25mm is fine, all later minis had 25mm spacers built into the drums as standard.
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Jan 17, 2006 22:12:24 GMT
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Two things that say 'they're okay' to me: Porsche run them as stock. You can get TUV-approved ones, which is a grading I trust. 75mm? Fook me.*n PS...wait...that gives stock Pork rims a -25 ET.
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Jan 17, 2006 22:15:14 GMT
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i have widened the front of the firenza by cutting the cross member in the middle and putting an extra110mm in the middle and a capri axle on the back
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Jan 17, 2006 22:53:19 GMT
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i have widened the front of the firenza by cutting the cross member in the middle and putting an extra110mm in the middle and a capri axle on the back yeah but you can't do that in halfords carpark on the way to a show !! (or can you?)
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Jan 17, 2006 23:31:55 GMT
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It depends - Might pay to make a cup of tea now!! Spacers - just spacers!!!Thin spacers (retail versions 3 - 6mm)Thin spacers with extended wheel bolts aren't a problem say up to 8mm as a general rule You need between 7 & 9 turns on the wheel bolt or nut for a secure fixing Medium Spacers (normally custom or S/H 10 - 15 mm)Problem comes when spacer size falls in no mans land ie 10mm - 15mm - too little left of the hub to centre a wheel - too small to allow a new hub centre to be manufactured on the outside face of spacer - too small to allow the spacer to be bolted to the hub and new threaded holes drilled and tapped into the spacer Thick Spacers (Custom - 20mm plus)All the above problems go away - Plenty of metal to machine a new hub centre - Can be bolted to hub and be taped to suit wheel bolts or recessed for OE studs ApplicationsWheel bearing and loadings IF you are using spacers to correct an offset issue ie the offset on your new wheels is ET 45 and you need ET30 and the wheels are the same width then you need an 15mm spacer this will not load up the wheel bearing any more than the original wheel The problem with wheel bearings is when you go outside the OE limits for offset on the vehicle Manufacturers spec the offset on wheels so that the wheel centre is close to the centre of the bearing assembly ie Offset ET 49 and you stick ET 15's on it you have moved the loading well outside the original spec and you will shag wheel bearings in double quick time especially if you rag it round corners As a general rule I don't like em but I have used them and been carefull about what I wanted to do with them and speced them accordingly I'm gonna get hammered now I know it!
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