dubwarrior2
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"Open up, its the filth"
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Jan 11, 2010 11:00:38 GMT
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As above, I'm looking at getting a pillar drill for my garage but unsure which is a decent model to get.
It will be for drilling wood and steel and needs to be about a meter tall as it will sit on my work bench.
Have seen a load of decent ones in the Machinemart catalogue but am a bit baffled by it all. Do I need a 12-speed drill?
I am looking to spend about £150-£200 max.
Your help greatly appreciated
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Jan 11, 2010 11:08:43 GMT
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my advice is buy a pro quality used one. machine mart and sealey are OK, but the one I had was about as square as a rhombus  no good if you wanted two equal holes drilled through a piece of box section or similar.  I gave £60ish for this pollard, its an ex school tool room one, takes two people just to lift the base! its got 6 speed but on a quick belt change, only thing it doesn't have is reverse. the guy I got it off buys/sells engineering equipment and he seemed to recon you do light milling on it. it is honestly built like a tank! its about 1.2m tall, but doesn't have that bigger throat if you fit a cross vice to it like I had in the pic.  |
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Jan 11, 2010 12:26:10 GMT
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Yeah I'll 2nd that Look on ebay under industrial listings I won a pair of these for 99pence local to me, my mate fully restored his and converted it to single phase. They are built really well, oil filled gearbox, grease nipples on the shafts, morse taper, the lot.  |
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MX5 mk1 - now Turbo'd
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Jan 11, 2010 12:27:36 GMT
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I second the vote for good second hand rather than new. I've used a number of pillar drills over the years but none were as good as the old sturdy ones we had at school and in the workshops at university. At my old work I'd normally set the mill up as a drill rather than use the pillar drill, because it didn't flap about and drilled nice and consistently square.
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purplevanman
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Jan 11, 2010 22:10:59 GMT
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Yeah I'll 2nd that Look on ebay under industrial listings I won a pair of these for 99pence local to me, my mate fully restored his and converted it to single phase. They are built really well, oil filled gearbox, grease nipples on the shafts, morse taper, the lot. jammy swine  ;D I agree, older but better industrial jobbies are a good investment. Morse taper gives better options for huge holes ;D Look for minimal drilling to the table, useually a good sign of being looked after and light use  |
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Welder, fabricator, general resto work
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10mpg
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just to repeat what's been said, get a good old un, as with many old machines, when they were built curse word materials and selling them for cheap with tiny margins just wasnt an option so they built them well and to last..
I sold a well used but decent enough 1960's single phase one on here for £15 or so, so don't think you have to pay the earth to get one, though £100 will net you a nice good spec one, and yes many speeds are good, as it gives you the versatility to go really small and really big and you never know when that might come in handy, if you ever do need to drill that 1.5 inch hole you'll be really glad your drill goes nice and slow...
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The Internet, like all tools, if used improperly, can make a complete bo**cks of even the simplest jobs...
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While I agree that older "proper" tools are generally a much better buy (my old guillotine is way better than a new one for twice the money would have been), I got a pillar drill from Aldi for about £40 and it's been great. It all depends on how much use you're going to get out of it of course, and it's not suitable for milling. But it's got a 3-year guarantee like most of their power tools. It's just a case of getting to Aldi when they have them in stock, of course - in that way it sometimes as hit and miss as dropping on a good secondhand one.
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While I agree that older "proper" tools are generally a much better buy (my old guillotine is way better than a new one for twice the money would have been), I got a pillar drill from Aldi for about £40 and it's been great. It all depends on how much use you're going to get out of it of course, and it's not suitable for milling. But it's got a 3-year guarantee like most of their power tools. It's just a case of getting to Aldi when they have them in stock, of course - in that way it sometimes as hit and miss as dropping on a good secondhand one. I also have a £40 Aldi one and to be fair it's pretty good. Everything I've wanted to have a hole in has ended up with a hole in..  HC |
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Jan 12, 2010 19:31:08 GMT
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j I sold a well used but decent enough 1960's single phase one on here for £15 or so, so don't think you have to pay the earth to get one, If it's the one you sold to me (along with the oscilloscope), you let it go for £10. I've not had a huge amount of use out of it, but it is simple, well built and it seems to be quite accurate (nice round holes, without the triangular edges you get if the drill is flapping about). |
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10mpg
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Jan 12, 2010 20:10:22 GMT
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ah-ha! yes thats the one, nothing wonderful but i'd bet pounds to pence it'd beat the curse word out of any new cheapo chinese special..
the main problem iirc was the bed had seen more than it's fair share of twist drills.... still well usable though..
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The Internet, like all tools, if used improperly, can make a complete bo**cks of even the simplest jobs...
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Jan 12, 2010 20:58:45 GMT
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Indeed - the bed is perforated in an arc where it's turned around the pillar. It will probably see a lot of use, when I need to use it...
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Jan 13, 2010 11:55:18 GMT
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ah-ha! yes thats the one, nothing wonderful but i'd bet pounds to pence it'd beat the curse word out of any new cheapo chinese special.. You're probably right. It's just a case of dropping on these things when you need one. |
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no good if you wanted two equal holes drilled through a piece of box section or similar.
