New Hudson shopper bike

I think you'll find that that's a badge engineered Raleigh 20 or Raleigh 22. I had one a while back around the same year but higher spec (dynamo hub, factory rear rack). It's not unusual for the manufacturer to badge engineer the bike for a specific market, probably for whatever area the Hudson bikes were originally sold.

oh and this one came from Stan Morselys in Melton Mowbray according to the sticker....

no longer exists though

Oh well I looked through the board for my BSA 20 thread. It might have been one about shoppers. I could not find it. Of course I'm useless at finding things.

I looked at the shopper bike thread and theres my BSA 20. And whats left of my Blue 20.

retrorides.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=othrmod&action=display&thread=65008

So heres my BSA 20 on Bike Forums.
www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?369231-Bsa-20

if i could find some black mag wheels i think they would lend themselves to a shopper nicely...

and the black looks good with gold like this modern burner shows...



if i go bmx wheel i would be tempted to lock up the freewheel somehow to go fixed...

or buy your coaster brake set up possibly....

The seat pin diameter of the Twenty is 28.6mm. The seat clamp is 31.8mm diameter. These are common sizes for MTB seat pins, so cant be difficult to track one down. Though I was looking for a 450mm long, 28.6mm alloy micro adjuster seat pin for my City folding bike. Not tracked one down yet.
BMX seat pins are a few different sizes. But the older common size is 22.2mm or 7/8" diameter. This was a common size on American bikes. Its the same as Handle bar diameter. In fact I fitted a Handlebar from a silver scooter to the huffy. was a bit of a tight fit though.
The oversize BMX seat pin diameter is 25.4mm, 1". Thats a common MTB size too. As with all things on bikes. Some will be annoyingly a slightly different size.
Theres shims available to fit thinner seat pins to bigger frames. A lot of the suspension seat pins come with shims to fit various bikes. Ive got a 27.2mm to 28.6mm shim. Ive got a nearly new black Kalloy 27.2 post, its 350mm. A Used silver Push 27.2 its 400mm long. Maybe enough for my folder bike, but don't want to use a shim in a bike that gets it pin adjusted on every ride.
I don't know how good a 22 to 28 shim would grip. As it would be quite thick material it was made from.
The 28.6mm is also the outside diameter of seat tubes on older bikes. You can see front gear mechs come in that size. I cut out a seat tube from an old roadster bike and welded it in my Grifter.

Super T as I called it. As it was quite long wheelbase with the Raleigh Wildcat forks I had fitted. 42" compared to the Wildcat that I fitted shorter BMX forks to, 35".

So the Grifter was as long as a super Tanker. ;D Wildcat was called Lucy. As I built it quickly and tried it, a lot of the parts were loose, including most of the spokes in the wire spoke wheels I put on it at first. Lucy also had an old seat tube forced in it. Then a regular seat pin in the top. Lucy got stolen 3 times. Once I had to walk home 10 miles in the dark.
Wild cats are similar to Raleigh Vektars. They were wild motorbike looking things with big mudguards and electronics. The Mark 1 Vektars had 3 speed hubs in Raleigh mags. I think they only came in white though. There was black raleigh mags on some Vektars. But think they were only single speed ones, same as Burner ones. A man on the Grifter board on Ace board has a few restored Vektars. I had 2 Vektars in good condition. Got them for about £10 each locally. But sold them for twice that to a collector from up north. I didnt have the money to get them like new. I think Ive got photos of them. Have to scan them onto pc.
The Mark 1 Raleigh Burners had 28.6MM seat posts too. I got a NOS fluted alloy one in its packet at a car boot sale for 50p. Its been sitting in my seat post box for 10 years till I put it on my blue RSW.

alec....the bmx wheels with 10mm axles..

if i fitted a set would i have to widen where the axles go into the forks slots and the frame slots..original axles look like 7 mm to me?

cheers and merry xmas on this xmas day...:-)

ok, so out of all of the Shoppers ive found whilst surfin' da net these are the two that do it for me so will bear these two in mind whilst creating my own but with a few different twists and turns......





mine already has a saddle bag and moustache bars added on to a modern stem....and ive made my mind up about which wheelset so will add photos when i have got the wheels done as they hopefully will be the ace in the hole ftw!!

I fitted some wheels to my Raleigh Twenty. The alloys that I got from scrapped Polish shopper bikes. Ive got 2 0r 3 pairs of them.



They have the 5/16" axle in the correct width to fit right in the forks. Though the tyres a bit close to the blades. Rear wheels a SA 3 speed so fits into the drop outs ok. They need polished up though. Ive polished the ones on my City folder. They look nice. But it takes ages sanding them to a nice finish.


I did try my NOS BMX 48 spoke front wheel. The axles too wide and thick to fit in the unmodded forks, and the cones arent all that thick, so couldnt really replace them with thinner ones. I tried my 36 spoke LCC chinese coaster wheel in the rear of the Twenty. Wouldnt go in. 3 speeds axles are about 8mm thick. Where as regular axles are a little bit thicker than that. Some old bikes had flattened axles in regular hubs. I think thats to fit into drop outs that were made to fit 3 speed bikes. As factories would use the same frame parts on several different bike models. Seems a silly idea. Ive seen flattened axles in racers. They need all the strength in there axles. As there prone to bend and break there axles.
I fitted flattened axles to the Raleigh mags that I tried on my blue RSW.

I don't know if you can get those axles new anymore. But lots of rusty old bikes have them.

Yes the modern axles will fit into Raleigh forks if you file the slots to the same width all along them.
I had a typo when writing about them. I put cones...when I meant locknuts. The locknuts are about 4mm thick. Some wheels have thinner ones, some are thicker. And as long as there the same thread, you can change thickness to suit your forks drop out width. Thats for cup and cone hubs. i don't think you'll easily find BMX wheels with sealed cartridge bearings. They don't have regular lock nuts. So your stuck with the width they are.