ant318
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Nov 25, 2009 21:36:18 GMT
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after googling and giving up ill question the knowledge here. It turns out I'm losing my works van at the end of the year so need a new way of carrying my personal tools about. Original plan has always been to build my own beavertail however looking at ready builts the prices are beyond me so I'm planning on converting a transit tipper which i can also set up to hold my tools. Now question is has anyone got any experience of this along with some helpful tips?
Cheers guys - ant
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Nov 25, 2009 23:06:54 GMT
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yeah check the maximumweights a chassic cab can carry before you get carried away building a mad max style beavertail only to find its so heavy you can only put a shopping trolley on the back  |
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ant318
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Nov 25, 2009 23:44:08 GMT
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yeah check the maximumweights a chassic cab can carry before you get carried away building a mad max style beavertail only to find its so heavy you can only put a shopping trolley on the back thats the first thing that popped into my head |
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maxlee
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Nov 26, 2009 13:21:47 GMT
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fordtransit.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=47298very handy forum here is a members truck build if you keep hunting about cheap ones do come up but they are cheap for 2 reasons 1 there old or 2 there or bodged to death  crew cab would be better if you have lots of tools to carry  /\ here is the truck i have at the moment owing me around £1900 now my old truck sold on ebay for £1200  cracking bed on it used it as a big drive on ramp many times  carryed a 380sl merc as well if you are going to build one have a good think about all the jobs you will need it for and how it will be best built
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bortaf
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Nov 26, 2009 14:55:31 GMT
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For a start unless you REALLY need one forget a crew cab, I just got rid of one and it lost me 300Kgs on load allowance and 3 foot of bed space, that meens you either have an illeagal overhang or a bloody long wheel base which can get tiering round small back roads. If the motor has a long overhang check it's leagal!! (that LDV above looks borderline to me, i believe it's 60% of the wheel base for overhang so check!!) there's lots of recovery out there that are for sale cos the owner has had a tug from VOSA and want rid of it Extending the wheel base is the best route but has to be done well, i've seen curse word jobs break thier back and it aint a pretty sight trust me  also take into account having a one off prop made can be expensive (my prop stood me in at £400 and never did ballence up properly cos is was too long for the size of tube the origional builder used). If your building from scratch makes lots of visits to the weigh bridge and weigh the axles independantly with the car you intend to carry on it, total weight is fine and dandy but VOSA will weigh the axles individualy, on mine I had to put stop on the bed to stop a cortina in the right place, and inch further forwad and it over weighted the front axle, 2 inches back it over weighted the rear, 3 inches back it would fall off the bloody truck ! |
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ant318
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Nov 26, 2009 20:01:13 GMT
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cheers guys, ive found a lot of the cheapies are either absolutely bodged/too long or just plain rotten. main reason for building my own is so i can build it to my own spec and i quite like driving "my" creations. i don't carry a lot of tools at one time however refuse to use my daily for that job again.
At the same time I'm looking into building my hobby/business up and a beavertail would be another addition to my services. btw that link is no good
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maxlee
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Nov 26, 2009 20:03:08 GMT
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buy mine £1700 T&T for 3 days with mot fail sheat blody thing  if you don't carry to many tools you could fit a box or put 2 seats in the front of a transit insted of 3 giving some room for tool box i got told the over hang was to much on my old truck (gray one) never had any pullings or trubble for mot tho but Bor is defo right |
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ant318
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Nov 26, 2009 20:06:42 GMT
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buy mine £1700 T&T for 3 days with mot fail sheat blody thing! i should have added that cost is the main issue too ;D |
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maxlee
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Nov 26, 2009 20:10:27 GMT
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worth ago  if it didn't ow me 2k I would have videod it being crushed not because its rubish just becaust I have had a right night mair this week working in the rain. and all the toys are out my pram and through a window lol I would have a look at the cost of a transit cab or tipper the was a burnt out transit beaver tail on ebay real nice bed on it for £375 just hunted and cant find it so must have gone was in a local yard might be worth keeping a eye out for that sort of thing could save you money |
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ant318
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Nov 26, 2009 20:23:57 GMT
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worth ago if it didn't ow me 2k I would have videod it being crushed not because its rubish just becaust I have had a right night mair this week working in the rain. and all the toys are out my pram and through a window lol I would have a look at the cost of a transit cab or tipper the was a burnt out transit beaver tail on ebay real nice bed on it for £375 just hunted and cant find it so must have gone was in a local yard might be worth keeping a eye out for that sort of thing could save you money exactly that,more annoyingly i was offered a spec lift last year in need of a new engine but no that was too easy my local travellers raid every transit the second its in the yard but they do often offer they're's cheap sometimes too |
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maxlee
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Nov 26, 2009 20:32:05 GMT
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spec lift is what I wish I would have bought now as I am 85% sure there mot exemt (spelt wrong) but again cheaper ones have been bodged still need to keep them in good nick etc as vosa still stop them but you don't have a dead line for mot :lol: but I don't think welded diffs would have been to good to drag behind it  least with beaver tails you can use them for lots of things trasit forum is defo worth a look but I think my luck has spred to that and its down  when I really need to get on it and ask some Q's talking about crew cabs i have seen 3 now that are made of fiber glass |
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ant318
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Nov 26, 2009 21:29:00 GMT
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i heard the same rumour about the mots but havent clarified it. A crewcab would be nice but a bit too big for my liking,as long as i can get the tools i need on it a single should suffice. As soon as the sites back on i'll be straight on there
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Nov 26, 2009 21:38:48 GMT
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Does anyone have a picture of the Vw flat bed custom thing? I think its a t25 or similar?
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maxlee
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Nov 26, 2009 21:46:33 GMT
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well the gray ldv truck the owner befor me said its mot exemt qucik phone call to vosser to check and the lady on the phone asked dose it lift/carry the hole car off the road i said yes she then said no sir its not. spec lifts are classed as mobile crains if i remember rightly. blown i don't but i do have a pic of my lt a few years back retro paint job from the owner be4 as well!  |
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Nov 26, 2009 22:13:55 GMT
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My VW T4;  Nice width so really stable, load sits flat and front wheel drive so no loss of traction when the back is light. I really like it but could do with losing some weight out of the ramps as they are way over engineered. Dave. |
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only speclifts, crane types (susspended tow) over 3.5 tonne are mot exempt (ie smallest is the dodge 50) plus there are other regs involved, can still be done for being unroadworthy, can't carry anything on board that doesn't aid recovery of a broken down vehicle (parts fitted on a carriage way) ie no driveshafts/propshafts, engs/gboxs, brake components, etc as these consitute goods even carrying a pushbike belonging to owner of broken down vehicle is a no no.
any recovery vehicle that doesn't leave 1 axle of the recovered vehicle on the road isn't mot exempt irrespective of size/wieght.
beavertails/rollbacks etc carry a load so are classed the same as other goods vehicles.
very few transit,ldv,vw, landrover type vehicles are capable of achiveing mot exemption as speclifts
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theres more to life than mpg & to much power is just enough.
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also take into account having a one off prop made can be expensive (my prop stood me in at £400 and never did ballence up properly cos is was too long for the size of tube the origional builder used).
least with beaver tails you can use them for lots of things 
when I really need to get on it and ask some Q's 
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