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Nov 23, 2009 21:26:37 GMT
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Honestly having grown up around these giant american cars I cannot understand your fascination with them. They truely are awful. Big V8's that only made 115hp yet still only get 12mpg. True... But they go *rugg*rugg*rugg*rugg*rugg at idle and *ROOOOAAAAAAARR* when you put your foot down. It's an infantile sensory thing...
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Nov 23, 2009 21:57:01 GMT
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I am much liking this...... and the price aint half bad too.... but 1 lil question... wtf is it? lol mid 60s Rambler Ambassador
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1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1994 Ford Fiesta
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Nov 23, 2009 21:59:50 GMT
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Geeze you just need to come to the US. All those cars are worth more as scrap than as vehicles. The local craigslist would have most of those for well under $500 each. plus a a few hundred air fare out there, another two grand to get one shipped back here and taxes paid and registered. Germany is EU so no tax to pay on import, and you can drive back with a trunk load of Riesling and Bratwurst. Last time I was in the US decent examples of these big boats were still fetching "reasonable" money in the trader type magazines/line ads I looked at ($1500 - $2000 money) and a local dealer to where I was staying had stock turning over with 80s Lincoln Town Cars at $2500 and Chrysler Fifth Avenues / Diplomat SE's going for $1750-$2000. Grand Marquis similar age, same sort of money. I was surprised but 3 or 4 left the lot in the 2 weeks we were there. Other curse word like old Toyotas also seemed to make strong money. This was 2 years ago.
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Last Edit: Nov 23, 2009 22:06:41 GMT by akku
1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1994 Ford Fiesta
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Nov 23, 2009 22:03:40 GMT
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The big green thing with the green 'lounge' interior (my later yank knowledge is weak), the dash, I assume thats not real wood with real inlay ;D I don't think I could drive that, i'd end up putting my feet up for a cuppa and nodding off. Love it though! 1980 - 1984 Oldsmobile 98.
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1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1994 Ford Fiesta
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Nov 23, 2009 22:13:05 GMT
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In answer to the question, remember the wall? and all the soldiers that looked after it?
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You're new here, aren't you? ;D There will be an upcoming issue of PC magazine denoting the svengali attraction of certain Brits to these North American bisons. And their madcap adventures forthwith. Don't try to talk them out of it, DD. Just get the hell out of the way! ;D I see this as an opportunity. Exporting these things to the UK will give them what they crave and at the same time get them off our roads ;D So is it just the V8 thing or is it the look of them? I just can't wrap my head around the idea that this is at all desireable I will try and remember the camera next time I take the dogs for a walk and snap pics of all the stuff like that around here. The Pacific northwest area is overflowing with these kinds of cars.
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skinnylew
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In answer to the question, remember the wall? and all the soldiers that looked after it? Was about to say similar, I'm guessing the Yanky cars were brought over by the copious amount of Yanks serving on the Military bases there, then eventually worked there way into private hands. Same way if you go to Norfolk/Suffolk there are always more Yanks for sale there than any other part of the country because of the USAF bases
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I know what you mean. My father once picked up Ronald Reagan at the airport when RR was running for President in 1980. In one of these..... the Oldsmobile variant. I cringed thinking about it, the whole "boattail thing"-cum-GM-FWD-turtleshell-thing. I nipped the hubcap off the old girl when we retired her. Wrote on the back, "President Reagan carried by an Oldsmobile with this hubcap." Too big a stretch? ;D (All true!)
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Was about to say similar, I'm guessing the Yanky cars were brought over by the copious amount of Yanks serving on the Military bases there, then eventually worked there way into private hands. Same way if you go to Norfolk/Suffolk there are always more Yanks for sale there than any other part of the country because of the USAF bases US servicemen have always been allowed to import cars from the US free of any import duties and VAT..... so has long been a good source of tax free yankee metal. We used to get a lot of 'em around here until they closed the USAF Birchwood base down. As for Norm's comments about the British obsession with the big sleds.... especially the 50's/60's stuff. I think it's the Hollywood effect and the association we have with those times. Like I said on the movie cars thread..... a lot of these cars are iconic so to us your not just importing a car.... your importing a little piece of america and all the american values that have been portrayed in the movies with it. American culture was massive here in the 60's and the 70's and it wasn't just car design that was influencing the British. (another recent thread).... I for one still play Iron Butterfly, Steppenwolf, Carlos Santana, Hendrix, Lynyrd Skynyrd etc etc.... the list goes on and these bands/artists music will always be regarded as classic (already is) on both sides of the Atlantic. You can't beat bashin' out a little 'Sweet Home Alabama' or 'In A Gadda Da Vida' (The live versions of course.... studio tracks just won't do ) at full volume on a hot summer day when your out cruisin'. In the words of another classic american song maybe us Brits are all just California Dreamin'.
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Last Edit: Nov 24, 2009 13:34:43 GMT by arrocuda
'71 Arrocuda.... '71 Sunbeam Rapier Turbo (The Grim Rapier).... '63 Hymek D7076..... Audi GT5S
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Nov 24, 2009 12:47:52 GMT
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[quote author=ditchdigger board=general thread=71042 post=947532 time=1259021329I see this as an opportunity. Exporting these things to the UK will give them what they crave and at the same time get them off our roads ;D So is it just the V8 thing or is it the look of them? I just can't wrap my head around the idea that this is at all desireable [/quote] That Buick would be lucky to make £1500 here. Nice condition as it may be I don't see it worth three grand. In Germany, maybe? I dunno. I'd buy it if it were cheap or a direct swap for my Saab. It has a cheesey appeal, but i'monly prepared to pay so much for that... To make money importing them you need stuff which is an easy sell. early Mustangs, Camaros, tail-fin Cadillacs, Roadrunners, that sort of stuff. Doesn't tend to be too cheap back home either though. And to answer your original question, why do we like your junk over here? I dunno. I like "good" cars. Good yank stuff is expensive. Theres a nice big block '69 Sport Satellite done as a GTX clone I saw, but its £14,000. So I set my expectations based on what I can afford. For example a G body Cutlass/Regal can be made into a nice car for minimal outlay and you can occasionally pick a 305 or 307 powered one up for not too much. And I still don't get why Americans seem to love the rubbish European stuff they seem to, I've seen some right awful euro curse word selling for proper money in the USA. I can't think of a good example at the moment but old Peugeots, Fiats, Minis, MGs, etc. seem pointlessly popular. OK, Minis are OK, I'll give that, but not at the prices you guys pay for them! So I guess that makes us about even
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1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1994 Ford Fiesta
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Nov 24, 2009 12:51:38 GMT
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personally i just like a big car with a big motor in it, i'm not fussy about where it comes from.
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Volvo back as my main squeeze, more boost and some interior goodies on the way.
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chip83
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Nov 24, 2009 14:41:46 GMT
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I could have an answer to the question why so many american cars Been an army brat and having lived on a shared base in germany with the yanks in the eighties alot of there stuff used to be brought over in the transports for the service personel, If my memeory serves me right, cars were cheaper in the states then germanyat the time, and just got left behind or passed on. The yanks had a huge army in germany before the cold war finished.
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Quashqui and Yeti (needs must currently) SAAB 93 EST (Sold) Volvo S40(sold) Volvo V40(sold) MK2 astra aka "THE SHED"(sold) Mgb GT (crashed) Peugeot 405(sold) Orion 1600i (sold) Metro (scrapped) Mk1 Fiesta (Broken for spares) Mk5 Cortina (crashed)
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chip83
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Nov 24, 2009 14:43:51 GMT
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I could have an answer to the question why so many american cars Been an army brat and having lived on a shared base in germany with the yanks in the eighties alot of there stuff used to be brought over in the transports for the service personel, If my memeory serves me right, cars were cheaper in the states then germanyat the time, and just got left behind or passed on. The yanks had a huge army in germany before the cold war finished. my bad already been answered.
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Quashqui and Yeti (needs must currently) SAAB 93 EST (Sold) Volvo S40(sold) Volvo V40(sold) MK2 astra aka "THE SHED"(sold) Mgb GT (crashed) Peugeot 405(sold) Orion 1600i (sold) Metro (scrapped) Mk1 Fiesta (Broken for spares) Mk5 Cortina (crashed)
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Nov 24, 2009 15:48:43 GMT
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they also appear to have an abundance of tat which is not American which is also cool and wierd. Russian and other former Sov-blok stuff
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1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1994 Ford Fiesta
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Nov 24, 2009 17:01:51 GMT
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you can occasionally pick a 305 or 307 powered one up for not too much. And I still don't get why Americans seem to love the rubbish European stuff they seem to, I've seen some right awful euro curse word selling for proper money in the USA. I can't think of a good example at the moment but old Peugeots, Fiats, Minis, MGs, etc. seem pointlessly popular. OK, Minis are OK, I'll give that, but not at the prices you guys pay for them! So I guess that makes us about even You're right. BTW, never EVER buy an Olds 307 V8. Ever. They are P.O.S.
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Last Edit: Nov 25, 2009 13:09:08 GMT by Team Blitz
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Nov 24, 2009 17:39:11 GMT
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mid 60s Rambler Ambassador oooh I like ramblers..... there was a orangy redish mid 60's rambler wagon around local to me aprox 10 years ago... suddenly dissapeared tho... realy liked that, slammed over chrome smoothies too EDIT: just found a full size pic of a 65 ambasador... I realy realy like it... and it looks bigger than I expected too, was thinkin it would be more of a small/mid size thing oh and how cool are the interiors
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Last Edit: Nov 24, 2009 18:18:04 GMT by retrowagen1234
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Nov 24, 2009 18:36:15 GMT
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BTW, never EVER buy an Olds 305 V8. Ever. They are P.O.S. Olds is the 307? Chevy is the 305. Whats the issue with the Olds 307? Other than the dreary performance? 403 (and 350, 425, 455) drops in on the same frame mounts was my thought...
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1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1994 Ford Fiesta
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Nov 24, 2009 19:16:46 GMT
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BTW, never EVER buy an Olds 305 V8. Ever. They are P.O.S. Olds is the 307? Chevy is the 305. Whats the issue with the Olds 307? Other than the dreary performance? 403 (and 350, 425, 455) drops in on the same frame mounts was my thought... Other way round, Chev is 307 (used a lot in Novas), Olds in the 80's used either a 305 Chev or the Y-code 307 with e-Roach-carbs (like on my previous 86 Buick Estate). The Y-code motors leak, and almost incurably so. No matter how much pepper you shake at it.
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Last Edit: Nov 25, 2009 13:12:18 GMT by Team Blitz
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Nov 24, 2009 21:33:20 GMT
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we're British, we're used to leaky engines, it stops the floor going rusty.
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Volvo back as my main squeeze, more boost and some interior goodies on the way.
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kevfromwales
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the conrod's REALLY out the block now!
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Nov 24, 2009 22:22:38 GMT
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and I have a 305 chevy v8 uncle norm?? - there is a 307 chev though - with super low bhp iirc?
- kev
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Almost on the road: b11 sunny breadvan, e36 tds, 325i skidcar,
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