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Mar 23, 2010 11:02:09 GMT
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Jeez, that's a nice one, chris1300! So is yours lowered to 'bottom' or 'empty' in the suspension system, however that works, or is it slightly higher?
Shall be on that forum soon, dude ;D
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"A Pierburg carb? It would be more economical to replace it with a funnel..."
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Mar 23, 2010 11:15:29 GMT
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Slightly higher. I reckon I'm running about 2.5-3" drop in that picture. I can just fit my thumb between the bumpstops and the top of the front suspension arm. However, the bumpstops havnt been cut down Not sure what pressure that equates to though. I just picked a height I was happy with and left it . A pump can easily be made from an old clutch or brake master cylinder if you need one, that's what I've used on this and two previous 1100's, and has worked fine. It rides really nicely, and can outcorner my mates mk2 golf gti easily in the corners. It's still a work in progress as it were, theres a couple of bits I'm not happy with, but I'll be addressing them soon enough. Be aware that there are no modification parts available off the shelf though, some mini bits can be adapted to fit, others have to be custom made. I'm a student mechanical engineer, so not especially a problem for me, but something to consider. Overall, a cracking little car, fairly cheap to run, impressively reliable if maintained, and great fun to drive. (note I've edited my previous reply again, cause I'm a numpty and thought of other stuff to say once I'd posted it) Also worth considering, before anyone mentions wheel fitment, the arches on my car have been flared a full inch on the front, and 3/8" on the back. as standard you will struggle to get anything other than the standard wheels under there. Oh, and it deals with this fine aswell Who needs a LandRover?
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Last Edit: Mar 23, 2010 11:40:53 GMT by chris1300
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robg2
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Mar 24, 2010 13:33:19 GMT
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Shall be on that forum soon, dude ;D You'll find me on there too (as robgranger). First car was an Austin 1100 Mk3; joined by a non-runner Mk1 shortly afterwards - still got the Mk1 although it'll be cubed shortly as it's been in a field for 10 years... Then came an Austin 1300GT Mk3, which gave a couple of years of great amusement before it met an early end due to someone else's clumsy driving. Then an Austin 1300 Mk2 which eventually ended up as a historic rally car - did quite a bit in that (Targa Rusticana, Welsh Rally Retro, East Anglian Classic, Mercian Rally, Preston Rally, autotests / production car trials / club days at Curborough). Still got that too although it's "resting" now. Also had an MG1300 Mk1 - yes they did exist, but were very rare. I had to relieve it of its bodyshell some time back but hopefully it will return... Now have an Austin 1300 Mk3, very original car but currently being converted to a Mk3 VdP (I stripped a donor for spares). Great fun cars but you need to be prepared for a lot of hands-on spannering, mainly due to lack of spares and specialist support nowadays. The 1100 was introduced nearly 50 years ago after all! My rally car will hopefully return with a different engine - along the lines of a Honda V-Tec or Vx redtop. Just right for trackdaying!!! I think Earlpart will sell you a pair of flexi-hoses instead of the original rigid hydro pipes. That's a better long-term prospect to avoid leakage, as the originals are prone to rust and also very low-slung and damage prone.
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Mar 24, 2010 13:46:28 GMT
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MY MGF has the hydrogas (not hydrolastic I think?) suspension. It failed an MOT for not having the spheres pumped up as it was nearly resting on the lower arms (so I was told). I love the ride of cars with this in, it's a really good thing I think.
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robg2
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Mar 24, 2010 16:50:18 GMT
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MGF did have surprisingly good ride considering its sporty character. It was just other stuff like steering feel that let it down a bit!
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pirate
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Mar 24, 2010 17:08:07 GMT
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hydrogas/lastic really is a good system, generaly only need a pump up now and then compared to replacing shocks/springs etc, out of all my cars that have used this system only my 1100 has a poblem its dropped one side at the rear, I'm guessing if a pipe had gone it would of dropped both front and rear on that side so I'm thinking the displacer might pump up, or will need a new one.
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persistant retro offender. 04 laguna load lugger alfa 159 lusso beast 82 austin allegro 82 mg metro
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Mar 24, 2010 18:53:40 GMT
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Pirate, I'd be willing to bet it's a broken assister spring you've got, and one side has 'risen' rather than one dropped. I don;t think it's possible for one side to drop only at the front or rear.
Regards Chris
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Mar 24, 2010 19:04:34 GMT
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I will have to pull it out the garage and have a better look. did your 1300 belong to someone called tone in a previous life? I'm not sude if its the same car or not lol aparently the units can go causing a drop if they have been stood a while (mine hasnt seen road since 1970) then moved (towed home) where is the assister springs? are they easy to remove? heres my mk1 suprisingly solid after so long off the road
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Last Edit: Mar 24, 2010 19:07:06 GMT by pirate
persistant retro offender. 04 laguna load lugger alfa 159 lusso beast 82 austin allegro 82 mg metro
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Mar 24, 2010 19:14:28 GMT
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The assister springs sit just inside the front of the rear subframe. If you jack the back of the car and crawl under, you'll see to 3/8"ish bars coming one from each radius arm, to a horseshoe shaped adjuster in the centre. The springs usually break as they exit the spacer block that passes through the subframe in the middle, this should be fairly obvious - they'll move if you wiggle them. Easy enough to replace, two bolts on each radius arm and then two through the adjuster.
If the units go then the side will drop as the fluid will be lost
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Last Edit: Mar 24, 2010 19:16:47 GMT by chris1300
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robg2
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Mar 25, 2010 12:54:10 GMT
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Also look for: rusty subframe; broken radius arm pivot shaft. Could also be a failed displacer as you said - replacements are getting a bit hard to get hold of now. A new pair sold on eBay a few weeks back for a ridiculous amount - more than £500 if I remember correctly.
Anyhowz, before we get told off for being too retro but not modified enough, can anyone post a photo of the works 1300 rallycross car that the Competition Department ran in about 1970. It was 8 port and injected I think - and also ran dry suspension (somewhat ironically considering this thread!!).
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mgmrw
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Jul 17, 2016 19:44:48 GMT
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Appreciate it's an old thread, but I have such issues now. Any of the original contributors about nowadays?
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Jul 18, 2016 18:40:12 GMT
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I'm not sure if you'll get replies from any of the original Members in this thread but they're still very popular cars I'm sure you'll get plenty of feedback. My Dad had umpteen variants including the MG 1300 & the Austin 1300 GT, he loved them then & would buy a decent one tomorrow if he could find a mint example, (if you can find a minter they're Megabucks!) I had the Vanden Plas 1300 & the family Allaggro, I always found the handling characteristics very positive & the cars were inherently chuckable. There was a slow leak on the Vanden Plas suspension & I had to get it re-pressurised about every 6 months, even in the mid 1980's I had trouble finding a garage that still had the kit to do it. I never had a moments trouble with the Allaggro suspension & that car was in the family for about 70K miles. If you have a half decent one it's a reasonable prospect that it could be used as an everyday car, (although I'd pop electronic ignition in). This is worth mentioning in case you haven't stumbled across it; 1100 ClubAlthough titled '1100 Club' it covers the AD016 range. Someone has already plugged this site, (albeit 6 years ago); ADO16 Forum
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mgmrw
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Jul 18, 2016 22:18:21 GMT
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I'm not sure if you'll get replies from any of the original Members in this thread but they're still very popular cars I'm sure you'll get plenty of feedback. My Dad had umpteen variants including the MG 1300 & the Austin 1300 GT, he loved them then & would buy a decent one tomorrow if he could find a mint example, (if you can find a minter they're Megabucks!) I had the Vanden Plas 1300 & the family Allaggro, I always found the handling characteristics very positive & the cars were inherently chuckable. There was a slow leak on the Vanden Plas suspension & I had to get it re-pressurised about every 6 months, even in the mid 1980's I had trouble finding a garage that still had the kit to do it. I never had a moments trouble with the Allaggro suspension & that car was in the family for about 70K miles. If you have a half decent one it's a reasonable prospect that it could be used as an every car, (although I'd pop electronic ignition in). This is worth mentioning in case you haven't stumbled across it; 1100 ClubAlthough titled '1100 Club' it covers the AD016 range. Someone has already plugged this site, (albeit 6 years ago); ADO16 ForumCheers. I've got a 71 Austin 1300, in white. Had it 5 years. Facebook groups galore have helped over the last 24 hours, appears these things have a cult following. Mines not concourse by any means, but is in damned good nick for an unrestored 45 year old car. Perhaps 5 rust scabs the size of a 5p each to address on the whole car.
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Cheers. I've got a 71 Austin 1300, in white. Had it 5 years. Facebook groups galore have helped over the last 24 hours, appears these things have a cult following. Mines not concourse by any means, but is in damned good nick for an unrestored 45 year old car. Perhaps 5 rust scabs the size of a 5p each to address on the whole car. To be so sound, the car has obviously been well cared for prior to your ownership, (as well as since I'd assume), as they did love to rust. A concours example? If you're looking at the rarer & more desirable variants like the MG or GT versions a nice example would cost you £8K to £10K so a concours car must be £12K+ ? You just don't see them coming up! The 2 door MG 1300 in a good two-tone paint scheme would be my ideal.
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mgmrw
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Previous owner was a collector, dry stored for 20+ years with little use.
The scabs forming are prior repairs, stone chips, scuffs etc. Will get sorted.
Wheels are tired, will repaint this year.
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