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I have a leaking oldsmobile trans. It is leaking fluid up though the dipstick tube. I am scouring the internet to find the replacement dipstick tube I need, having discovered the generic ones sold by Mr Gasket do not fit.
Can anyone think of a way I can temporarily seal either the old broken/welded back together one or new chrome mangled to fit one so that I won't drop sealer down the filler hole in the trans and wreck the box.
I think I am best to junk the crappy chrome one (what a waste of £20 that was) and revert to the old broken/welded one as at least that one bolts to the top stay OK.
I'm really really frustrated because only about 2 weeks ago whilst idly surfin' I came across a US junkyard which had not one, but 3 1965 Oldsmobile 98s in, and can I find that website again now? BAH!
I *believe* that all Oldsmobile "big car" ones are the same (1965 through some point in the 70s) where fitted with any Olds V8.
So if anyone just happens to have one pls LMK!
Rock don't stock 'em
Car ***HAS*** to be on the road for next weekend.
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stinkwheel
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How about a total bodge, get some of that putty epoxy metal stuff, cover area of welded tube in it and see how it does. That JB weld stuff sealed a leak in a motorcycle fuel tank and crankcase when i fell off it and needed it to work so i could get home.
As i say bodge, but i guess it will work fine.
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I think part of the problem is that the tube may be distorted from welding and not fitting snug in the top of the trans. I think the flange is also a bit of a mess. I might see if I can get a washer or o-ring in there but then it won't locate properly in the trans and the top stay won't line up. Smearing some form of goop up the tube liberally was my plan B if I can't think of a plan A which is neater.
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1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1994 Ford Fiesta
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Seth
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There's an O ring on it already , right? Might it be feasible to find a replacement O-ring with a slightly fatter profile?
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Follow your dreams or you might as well be a vegetable.
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jb weld is pretty good stuff for bodging ....carb cleaner it well first and slap that on , let it sit at least 24hrs
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The only problem with JB weld will be getting the thing back off again when it comes to fitting a replacement dipstick.
From your comments I assume the leak is from the join between dipstick and gearbox casing? If this is the case then JB weld is the last thing I would be considering. If the suggestions of JB weld are to repair a crack/split in the old dipstick tube itself, then please ignore my comments!
As for O rings, if you can find out what size the exisitng O ring is, I can send you a variety of them in that size and slightly larger/slightly smaller diameter. The ones I have seem to be a bit thicker than most O rings I come across so might be just the thing you're after? They squash down quite nicely too...
PM me your address with the o ring size and I'll stick a handful in an envelope and hope 1st class does what it promises??
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If the trans don't need to breath through the dipstick, i'd be looking for something nice and rubbery to stick in the hole and bung it up temporarily.
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Mystery Machine - thats the R-R spirit. it may well be that a fatter o-ring in the bit which slots into the box may cure it until a new tube can be sourced. I'll PM dimensions at lunch.
problem is I'm not sure where the leak is coming from, its kinda hidden from view a bit, and all very oily now...
I thought of "gooping" up the side of the old tube and also doign something to address the seal with the top of the box and between the two it should be OK ish.
Yeah, I don't want to be sealing the tube to the box in any way.
I also need to re-o-ring the sump plug I think as there is a drip from there still.
I need to get this thing fluid tight as no way will it pass scrutineering if it drops ATF.
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stinkwheel
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ah ha!!!!! scrutineering. Someones going a RWYB or track day-ing. I hope its rwyb but a trackday in this would be very very amusing.
If you only need it to work for the day then i would possibly just be massively over enthusiastic with the silicone RTV sealant.
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I'd like it to work consistantly after all the effort gone into fixing and fiting the box!
I dunno if the dipstick tube is used to breath through. I had wondered about a bung short term. Thing is that the torque converter drains down when stationary and this backs up in the dipstick tube. So the tube is part of the fill capacity of the trans, meaning I'd have to run it low on fluid otherwise.
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Oct 20, 2009 10:00:39 GMT
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I wouldn't use any kind of sealing compound on the transmission - all it needs is the tiniest bit to find its way in and you'll get more 'box trouble.
I think I'd go with MM's kind offer of a thicker o-ring, and source anothe dipstick in the mean time.
With the leak on the drain plug - is it definitely from there, or is it just fluid dripping off the lowest point of the sump, having come from elsewhere?
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Oct 20, 2009 10:36:27 GMT
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how about over wrapping the o ring with ptfe tape?
If a fatter o ring wont go in, then ptfe might work. Just do it need and don't leave and stragly bits.
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kevfromwales
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Oct 20, 2009 11:05:19 GMT
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akku - I have a th400 sat here (yes that one!) with a dipstick tube in it
do you want me to post it over to you? - or might be able bring it over wednesday night (with your tyres??)
it doesn't look the right profile for your box, but how about using the non-distorted box end of mine, and the correct shaped top of yours, then JB welding those 2 bits together? - no heat to distort the tube?
hth- kev
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Oct 20, 2009 11:12:35 GMT
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PM me your address with the o ring size and I'll stick a handful in an envelope and hope 1st class does what it promises?? Royal mail are looking like they may be going on industrial action on thursday and friday.
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Oct 20, 2009 11:56:13 GMT
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akku - I have a th400 sat here (yes that one!) with a dipstick tube in it do you want me to post it over to you? - or might be able bring it over wednesday night (with your tyres??) this would be sweet. It might fit. Who knows? One way to find out I guess.
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Oct 20, 2009 16:03:33 GMT
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Just got back in and got your PM. Will get O rings in post to you tomorrow (they are down at the unit and I'll be down there tomorrow) While working today I thought of another possible 'belt & braces' idea. Just in case the dipstick tube is split somewhere, how about some heatshrink over the entire length of the tube?? Maybe even a second layer 'just to be sure' I've done this before on a pipe as a temp repair (low pressure) and it worked a treat! With that and the o-rings, you might well be on the way to leak free motoring? Of course, if Kev (where has he been) from Wales is able to supply a replacement tube then things are looking pretty good Kev, if I think up a really random/obscure/never been heard of car part my money is on you having a spare or six somewhere in your well organised and highly efficient parts store ;D
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Oct 20, 2009 16:30:00 GMT
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If KFW's tube don't fit, PM me. There's a massive trans shop 2 miles from my abode, and I can probably source any part that is needed if you spell out the exact application. Hopefully his TH400 bits will work.
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Oct 20, 2009 18:02:25 GMT
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probably trying to teach egg sucking here but a few suggestions/questions are you certain its the stick/tube leaking a way of tracing mystery oilleaks is a really good clean down and once it is dry give a good dusting of talcum powder as the oil will stand out dark against the white powder as it starts to leak more possibly/deffinetly stupid question. is the box overfilled? is there a blocked breather pressurising things probably made myself look more of a numpty than usual but what the heck ttfn glenn
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Oct 20, 2009 20:13:12 GMT
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I think the box may be over filled. That thought struck me today. The young lad at the garage seemed very enthusiastic filling it. As I am currently using the wrong dipstick all PTFE'd up its hard to check Although it does leak (leak worse) when its been run. I dunno. TB, thanks for the offer.
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1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1994 Ford Fiesta
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