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Oct 19, 2009 18:14:33 GMT
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Hello all, total newbie to RR here, but also a true dedicated classic car fan. My question to you all, if you can help that is, is regarding car security. Obviously, I love my car and I would very much like it to remain mine! I've invested in the usual locks, alarms, etc, even bought a wheelclamp. But what i'm looking for is locks. Security locks, is there any you can recommend which would be suitable for a MK2 Escort? I came across some in a Capri Club magazine, but unfortunately they don't seem to make them anymore. Remember, the lock barrell on the MK2 is integrated into the door handle, not separate as companies like Solex prefer. I've got the rest of the car covered as far as personal security goes, but the locks on these old cars are very poor and I would like a suitable alternative. But i'm all ears to any security methods in general you might use to keep your classic safe, so please speak up! Any suggestions guys? Many thanks.
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Oct 19, 2009 19:02:37 GMT
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i got a krooklock and a ground anchor concreted deep in the ground which i can put a chain round front axle but its a suzuki jeep but still want it to remain mine
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onlyrwd
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Oct 19, 2009 19:04:58 GMT
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Mick Gradually trying to own one of everything
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Ray Singh
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Oct 19, 2009 19:11:08 GMT
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Problem with most classics now is that theives that target classic cars know which parts are valuable. They almost never want to take the whole car away, but take parts. Door handles and mirrors as well as targa tops are now hugely valauable Porsche parts. Theives in London are actually targetting cars for only this part.
Obviously some cars will attract specialist theives who will want to take the whole car. I would suggest a CAT1 alarm/imobiliser.
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Oct 19, 2009 19:15:48 GMT
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Great stuff!
My only problem with such means as CCTV & ground posts is that my car is parked on rented property in a compound, and I've a suspicion that the landlord may take exception to my taking a concrete drill to the floor!
That security thread is a good source for the usual deterrants/preventive measures, but does anyone here have a solution to the curse word locks which come on the MK2 Escort?
I'm looking for mainly aftermarket security locks, so any recommendations would be greatly appreciated!
So *looking toward 70s/80s Ford owners... any suggestions guys?
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Oct 19, 2009 19:30:33 GMT
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Deadlocks?
Motorfactors & car accessories shops used to sell them, dunno whether they still do them or not.
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Oct 19, 2009 19:45:47 GMT
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Cosmic deadlocks saved my ol' 2 door Mk3 Cortina from being nicked on about 3 occasions!
There is (or was) a company called Hy-key or Hi-Key who did security locks for loads of old cars. Doesn't prevent "fishing" the lock open though.
Tracker.
hidden kill switch
etc.
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1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1994 Ford Fiesta
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Oct 19, 2009 19:54:58 GMT
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locks aint much use really...they can always smash or cut a window out or bend the door frame down
you need to pursuade them that theres nothing to see here and move on...disclok and a led /alarm stickers..
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91 golf g60, 89 golf 16v , 88 polo breadvan
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Oct 19, 2009 19:58:48 GMT
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Aye, hide you valuables and don't have a huge stereo all out on display. Loads of stickers for performance parts will also attract the wrong attention.
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1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1994 Ford Fiesta
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Oct 19, 2009 20:06:21 GMT
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don't bother with locks, they'll only go in through the window or bend the top of your door out to get in anyway and even if its got an immobilser on it an escort is light enough to push up the road far enough to tow it away, you need stuff that stops it being moved or makes a curse word load of noise so you can get out to it before they curse word off with it.
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Volvo back as my main squeeze, more boost and some interior goodies on the way.
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Oct 19, 2009 20:13:41 GMT
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Smith & Wesson Revolver sticker on the car. "Security by Mssrs. Smith and Wesson", that sort of thing.
Dobermann kennel club membership decal. Or better yet, actually own and walk a Dobermann breed around the neighborhood with a muzzle cone over his head for effect.
Be seen frequently on your front porch cleaning the estate shotgun, whilst playing Lynard Skynard on an old boombox.
Tip lot security men a few quidditch to especially watch your car while you're away, if such applies. Otherwise, outprice the local yoof gang by making an appointment with the head thug and paying him a yearly sum to protect your P&J.
All the immobilizers and gadgets won't stop a brick and a crooked rollback man. Networking the hood and shows of force are your best longterm options. Locked doors just keep honest men honest. I never ever lock my car doors. Never, because I leave nothing of value inside, and I don't want to lose a window. I'd rather they just open the door.
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Oct 19, 2009 20:42:54 GMT
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if i have to leave it somewhere I'm unsure of i leave it unlocked so i don't loose a window and leave nothing in it just a steering lock. and i usually immobilise it one way or another id rather have the car still there and have to replace an ignition barrel then have to replace an ignition barrel and a door lock / door skin / window.
and when its at home i have a ground anchor and i park it blocked in by a landy and right underneath my bedroom window
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Oct 19, 2009 20:58:27 GMT
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don't bother with locks, they'll only go in through the window or bend the top of your door out to get in anyway and even if its got an immobilser on it an escort is light enough to push up the road far enough to tow it away, you need stuff that stops it being moved or makes a curse word load of noise so you can get out to it before they jolly pain in the backside off with it. ^^^^ what pop-up said really if they want to get into any car they will, you have to try to stop them from actually taking it or moving it easily.
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Oct 19, 2009 21:22:21 GMT
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i like Norm's idea
now, where can i get a doberman that can shoot straight?
a determind thief will take your car.
a casual thief will take it if its easy to take
try to deter the casual thief, remove the steering wheel and store it elsewhere. fit a prop/gearstick lock. and a sticker advertising it.
to slow down the determind thief, and possibly deter him/her, fit a mercury switch alarm with a very loud alarm noise, on a seperate battery and not earthed to the car.
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Someone just shot the elephant in the room.
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a determind thief will take your car. a casual thief will take it if its easy to take ^^^^ this. Basically you are mitigating risk. There is a law of diminishing returns with risk management. You go as far as is sensible. if they really want your car they will kidnap your mum and hold her hostage until you sign over the V5C. On the other had leaving it running in the street with the doors wide open isn't going to be good for the NCB.
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1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1994 Ford Fiesta
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Oct 20, 2009 14:10:27 GMT
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we used to leave everything unlocked at the carsales, we know people used to jump the fence at night and go though them (odd lost switch, or interior trim) but at least we never had to change a door/window/lockbarrel. (however a dealer up the road lost a full leather interior for a PUG 306 Cabby)
Risk ya take, tbh with the thin metal even if u fit the best locks money will buy, it just means u'll end up with more door damage/broken windows. I have disc lock, and soon i'm gonna get an alarm too. That's it. It makes a good old chunk of noise, and i make it know the fact it's a diesel, Joyriders move on, u'll get more power nicking a supermarket trolley!
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Oct 20, 2009 14:22:19 GMT
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Alarms are fine if you can hear them and act on them going off. Don't expect anybody else to do anything about it though. Anybody who lives in London, and particularly in a flat, will know the 10 minute walk to a car of van makes them a waste of money. We once had the bonnet forced and wires cut by Kensington and Chelsea environmental health officers because we were 15 minutes walk from the van and the 110 decibel alarm was going off! I would go for deadlocks and chain up the steering wheel every time.
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Oct 20, 2009 17:34:20 GMT
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went to get the tracking done on swmbo sedona today and picked up a flyer for a cheapy tracking system www.123trackit.com/index.htmldon't know anything about it but may be of use to some of you ttfn glenn
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Oct 20, 2009 18:54:18 GMT
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Locks that aren't worn so badly our Mr. Frost can't come by and undo them faultlessly with his toolbox key are always a good start (Cheers Andy for the demonstration ) Beyond that, as folk have said, all you can really do is secure the thing when it's parked up at your own place so that they can't at least make off with it wholesale. I've had worse trouble with kids prying badges and other trim off than them trying to break in and either nick it or steal the radio etc. Had to break into the car before myself and know just how easy it is to fish-hook the lock open on it too. Right outside a police station too, didn't even get them interested! So yeah, immobilise it and you should come back to it, but don't count on the scroats having picked the interesting bits off A good immobiliser helps, I always had to make 2 trips to and from the house, one for keys, the other for the distributor rotor arm... lol --Phil
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Alarms are fine if you can hear them and act on them going off. Don't expect anybody else to do anything about it though. Anybody who lives in London, and particularly in a flat, will know the 10 minute walk to a car of van makes them a waste of money. We once had the bonnet forced and wires cut by Kensington and Chelsea environmental health officers because we were 15 minutes walk from the van and the 110 decibel alarm was going off! but the motor was still there when you arrived, and had attracted the attention of nosey complainers and council officials. I call that a success, Annoyed people take action and thieves will know not to draw attention to themselves or want to be confronted by angry and annoyed josephine public.
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Someone just shot the elephant in the room.
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