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Oct 19, 2009 17:07:12 GMT
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Right then... ive been having some thoughts relating to my favorite type of car... I'm on the hunt for a few raritys.. so if one pops up in europeland. i wanna be prepared... my questions are... *what does a car need legally to be driven in germany?(TAx disc type things and mot?S) *who would insure a car for my to drive it home? *am i still legal being a uk licence holder to drive a un (uk) registered car in the uk? insured only on the vin and no tax or mot? *are there any dealers in germany known for being good to us brits? (recommendations?) cheers in advance for any help you can offer.... bit of a flying visit.... gotta go back to work
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binboy
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Oct 19, 2009 17:26:27 GMT
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Hi I think you can get a export plate in Germany that gives 7 days insurance, I think the car has to have a current TUV test.
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Oct 19, 2009 17:46:22 GMT
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This is one where the EU helps you.
You can insure your German purchase on your UK insurance on the VIN plate. When you get back to the UK just drive in through the "Nothing to declare" channel and you are golden. You need a customs form to "prove" it came from another EU country and no duty due in order for the DVLA to register it so you may want to stop off at customs on your way through the port to sort that but I believe you can do it by post otherwise. There is something about export plates too, I dunno how you get them though
Somewhere there is a really really good thread about importing from Germany written by that chap who had the nice Ascona. It really should have been FAQ'd but wasn't. I did a section on US Imports as well. See if you can find it.
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1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1994 Ford Fiesta
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Oct 19, 2009 17:50:14 GMT
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When i had my ford f350 picked up from the netherlands the number plates had to be given up to there local post office or they would not let him take it out of the country.Not sure about germany
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Oct 19, 2009 18:09:56 GMT
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wicked cheers guys.... gonna try get handy with this search function too ***alistair*** the cars I'm looking for are simply polo's but all being well whatever i choose will be a rare one... oh the joys of LHD lol.... so basically at the port i just need to get a form from customs saying that it came from the EU... these export plates sound interesting too... back to my german language audio book on the ipod
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Siert
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Oct 19, 2009 18:15:52 GMT
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When I had my ford f350 picked up from the netherlands the number plates had to be given up to there local post office or they would not let him take it out of the country.Not sure about germany Dutch and German systems are completely different. In the Dutch system a plate belongs to a car, hence it must be handed over if the car leaves the country (and will never be removed/changed for any other reason except scrapping). In Germany the plates correspond to the owner rather than to the car, so cars in Germany are AFAIK usually sold without plates. You'll have to get export plates in Germany as alistair said.
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Last Edit: Oct 19, 2009 18:16:04 GMT by Siert
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Oct 19, 2009 18:18:01 GMT
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just found this for anyone else interested... * Export plates (also known as "Ausfuhrkennzeichen", customs plates) are used for exporting vehicles abroad. The plates are the only ones which do not have the blue Euro strip on the left and the owner does not have to be a German resident to register the car. The date on the red strip on the right hand side does not show the expiration date of the plate; instead it shows the expiration date of the vehicle insurance. After this date the vehicle must have left Germany.
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Oct 19, 2009 18:19:04 GMT
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When I had my ford f350 picked up from the netherlands the number plates had to be given up to there local post office or they would not let him take it out of the country.Not sure about germany Dutch and German systems are completely different. In the Dutch system a plate belongs to a car, hence it must be handed over if the car leaves the country (and will never be removed/changed for any other reason except scrapping). In Germany the plates correspond to the owner rather than to the car, so cars in Germany are AFAIK usually sold without plates. You'll have to get export plates in Germany as alistair said. according to some things i just read... in order to get customs plates (export) from germany you need to hand in the originals... along with a long list of other things
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mrj
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Oct 19, 2009 18:34:16 GMT
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my questions are... *what does a car need legally to be driven in germany?(TAx disc type things and mot?S) *who would insure a car for my to drive it home? *am I still legal being a uk licence holder to drive a un (uk) registered car in the uk? insured only on the vin and no tax or mot? *are there any dealers in germany known for being good to us brits? (recommendations?) cheers in advance for any help you can offer.... bit of a flying visit.... gotta go back to work there is a couple of ways to register a car here; in case you know the seller (and he sells you very well) he could let you drive home with the german registration... but a car can only be de-registered over here when you have the plates and the papers.. if the car is not de-registered, tax and insurance go on forever... so it is unlikely someone let's you drive home on their plates if they don't know you well... you can get a 5day plate over here, but you need to have insurance for that and you must be living in germany.... most insurers hesitate to cover that, so they make it expensive.... for the 5day plate you don't need a german MOT (TÜV) .Prepare to get stopped a couple of times on your journey with these plates... i am also not sure, which countries in europe are covered by the insurance; and be careful; though the german MOT centres are tested regularily, it could be that you get an export MOT (that means, it wouldn't pass a a normal MOT, but when it goes abroad....) you also could get an export plate, in this case you can insure this car by the ADAC (= german RAC), the car then has to have a valid MOT and emission test, and you have to bring the car to the local registration office so they can check the VIN ... (if the car is not currently registered you need to bring it there by trailer, or on a 5day plate....) . Dealers often have trade plates and help you with going to the registration office... moneywise this might be the most expensive way, but the safest .... ( i wouldn't want anyone driving around through europe with my insurance...) . I think once you have passed the german border, no-one cares about the plates, i have seen vans with cardboard plates going on the ferry to the UK ;D what ever kind of plates you fit on the car, make sure they are fitted where they should be. If you get stopped by the police with the plates on the dashboard etc. it could cause trouble ... for the dealers; what kind of car are you looking at? I might have a couple of adresses.... and whatever is around Stuttgart can be viewed by me, and of course stored.....
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- 1971 VW 1600 TL Fastback - 1978 Passat GLS Variant - 1980 Audi 100 5E - 1981 VW aircooled panel van (sold) - 1983 VW Jetta Mk.I - 1984 VW Polo Coupé - 1984 VW Passat hatchback - 1987 VW Passat Variant - 1987 VW Passat hatchback - 1988 VW T25
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Oct 19, 2009 18:49:02 GMT
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very interesting reading^
and an offer in the spirit of retro rides.
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Oct 19, 2009 18:52:34 GMT
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oldbus will know the name the place to get export plates from - some threads on forums (from 05 oddly) say that the plate office shuts on friday lunchtimes - if you miss that youll be stuck till the monday
think they're usually valid for a week cost 50-100 euro (when daz did it - cant find his thread)
needs tuv then as akku said insure on vin collect v55/5 form and register within 6 months of gettin it home
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Oct 19, 2009 19:09:39 GMT
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this is very good reading and mrj thanks for the offer ill bear that in mind... very appriciated I'm thinking along the lines of.. *mk1 polo gt *mk2 polos/derby gt,s or g40 *mk3 g40 (would have to be minus sunroof )
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The local vehicle registration office is the place you´d need to go (Strassenvekehrsamt) Each town has it´s own but don´t expect them to sort it all out for you in english and they don´t do late night opening and weekends I wouldn´t bother with all the hassle and paperwork. Just borrow a trailer and drag it home. I´ll probably be cheaper in the long run too.
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Last Edit: Oct 20, 2009 9:17:13 GMT by Oldbus
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1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1994 Ford Fiesta
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1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1994 Ford Fiesta
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berendd
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Oct 20, 2009 10:01:28 GMT
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As Siert says it's easier to export a car from Germany than it is to export one from Holland..
Belgium has the same system as Germany though
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Oct 20, 2009 10:24:02 GMT
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The local vehicle registration office is the place you´d need to go (Strassenvekehrsamt) Each town has it´s own but don´t expect them to sort it all out for you in english and they don´t do late night opening and weekends I wouldn´t bother with all the hassle and paperwork. Just borrow a trailer and drag it home. I´ll probably be cheaper in the long run too. I would do that too, once it's back register it. You have to do that anyway, so save yourself the bother of dealing with the English DVLA and the German DVLA!
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mrj
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Oct 20, 2009 10:56:30 GMT
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the easiest way would be to drive over with a morris marina and drop this off at my place and drive home with a retro of your choice
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- 1971 VW 1600 TL Fastback - 1978 Passat GLS Variant - 1980 Audi 100 5E - 1981 VW aircooled panel van (sold) - 1983 VW Jetta Mk.I - 1984 VW Polo Coupé - 1984 VW Passat hatchback - 1987 VW Passat Variant - 1987 VW Passat hatchback - 1988 VW T25
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Oct 20, 2009 11:36:29 GMT
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jurgen wtf ;D
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2001 HONDA CT110 (NOT RCV)
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mrj
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Oct 20, 2009 15:27:06 GMT
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hey, of course it would be easier to trailer it home, but roadtrips are the most important part of the purchase of a classic car, it helps you building up a relationship to your new car.... ;D
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- 1971 VW 1600 TL Fastback - 1978 Passat GLS Variant - 1980 Audi 100 5E - 1981 VW aircooled panel van (sold) - 1983 VW Jetta Mk.I - 1984 VW Polo Coupé - 1984 VW Passat hatchback - 1987 VW Passat Variant - 1987 VW Passat hatchback - 1988 VW T25
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