mrj
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Holy God, are you lot actually discussing the font used on a license plate? Who gives a rat fark? It's right there with whether my toothbrush has a purple handle or a blue one.... Does anyone know if air used in 1985 is better air than current 2009 air for filling tyres? i prefer a blue handle on my toothbrush ;D actually i miss the old non-EU plates in germany, as these EU things just don't look right for an old car.... so i can understand this discussion.... |
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- 1981 VW aircooled panel van (sold)
- 1983 VW Jetta Mk.I
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- 1984 VW Passat hatchback
- 1987 VW Passat Variant
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- 1988 VW T25
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Serck plates are impossible to get now. Nobody has the dies. If someone made a set of dies then they could press them (totally illegally) but I would love them forever for it.
The plates just finish a car. If you have a 1982 Cortina Crusader, say, **NOTHING** looks better than a set of pressed Serck plates on it. Its proper period dressing. Same as people who buy repro Polyglass tyres or old style P6000 to have the right sidewall profile or tread pattern. Anal? Sure. But thats what being into old cars is about. Not just about slinging any old curse word on your car.
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tome30
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Yeah, cause we all know if you have an illegal font all the domesticated bunnies on the planet will turn on their owners and rape and kill them.[/quote]
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Mark
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Could you not make up Plastic Serck plates? Yes not as cool, but I reckon I can get it done if someone has the font?
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I've seen period-correct Serck acrylic plates (on a Mk2 Granada I think) so they were done and wouldbe "correct" as well. Nothing beats a real pressed plate though
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1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1994 Ford Fiesta
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Oct 14, 2009 19:54:47 GMT
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I have a pressed Serck rear one stowed away from my Capri as well as the dealer plates. The one i have came from a trailer board and considering it must have had a hard life its mint.
How about billet ally ones from a cnc? ;D
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Oct 14, 2009 20:11:29 GMT
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Yep, Serck is a great font isnt it, sadly the plate on the back of the camper isnt Serck   |
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1939 Francis Barnett Powerbike
1971 Honda C90
1992 Mitsubishi Lancer 1.5 GLX
1993 Fiat Panda Selecta
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Oct 15, 2009 18:34:26 GMT
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i neeed a set for the passat. surely a show plate manufacturer can make some up.
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Oct 15, 2009 19:50:29 GMT
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without the dies they can't press the font. The dies were scrapped, so I am told.
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1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1994 Ford Fiesta
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Oct 15, 2009 20:00:47 GMT
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someone posted the font on this thread, so you could DIY it by more or less the same method I just used on Mayday! Scale the pic up to the right size on the monitor, trace the letters you need. Tape your template to a piece of fablon (or other brand of sticky-backed plastic) cut carefully with craft knife (cut em back to front if you want to make an acrylic plate) then stick to perspex plate blank, then apply backing and press.. its the ANSI reflective backing thats going to be hard to get I suspect.
Agree, the loss of the pressing dies is a PITA for the "real deal" but you can make some pretty good forgeries with a little effort.
PS, when I asked at the motorfactor about old stock of plate making equipment, I was told (and I believe him) that all the old gear was confiscated and destroyed when the new law came in. They were replaced with the "official" charles wright 2001 font instead.
PPS. Does anyone know who Charles Wright was, or why he has a font named after him? all I can find is that it came into use during 1936, and ran alongside the older (un-named) font until the 2001 changeover.
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To get a standard A40 this low, you'd have to dig a hole to put it in |
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Oct 15, 2009 20:04:54 GMT
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Oh yeah... and I bet the army has a serck plate press somewhere. I've seen 80's era bedfords and DAFs with serck font military plates, the army never throw anything out unless it's broken, and the 2001 new law doesn't apply to them (cos they have guns, and stuff) ergo, at the back of a REME depot somewhere there is the holy grail.
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To get a standard A40 this low, you'd have to dig a hole to put it in |
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wez
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Oct 15, 2009 21:27:43 GMT
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As you say, Theres gotta be some dies out there, i know BT used to press their own metal plates for their fleet back in the 70s/80s (when it wasnt BT and actually the GPO lol) Theres gotta be an old store roome with some dusty trinkets in somewhere  |
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Rich G
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Oct 15, 2009 21:33:44 GMT
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As you say, Theres gotta be some dies out there, I know BT used to press their own metal plates for their fleet back in the 70s/80s (when it wasnt BT and actually the GPO lol) Theres gotta be an old store roome with some dusty trinkets in somewhere Probably locked in a cupboard in the basement of an exchange somewhere in Birmingham - most of their fleet from that period seemed to be registered in Brum. |
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spiny
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Oct 15, 2009 22:07:13 GMT
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I was driving behind one of these the other day and found myself simply drinving straight into the back of it when it stopped, in attempt to break the number plate into more easily managable pieces. I laughed out loud at that |
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Oct 15, 2009 22:34:56 GMT
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Holy God, are you lot actually discussing the font used on a license plate? Who gives a rat fark? It's right there with whether my toothbrush has a purple handle or a blue one.... Does anyone know if air used in 1985 is better air than current 2009 air for filling tyres? Well now ya see that depends on if you have a mk1 escort RS, is it more special if it still has the original spare wheel with AVO air in it.  |
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Volvo back as my main squeeze, more boost and some interior goodies on the way.
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Russ
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I've got acrylic serck plates on my escort, original dealers ones too.  |
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Russ, if those plates are genuine Serck they should have a 3 digit number down next to the BS AU 146A marking that shows what branch made them...now THAT'S anal !
The reason I now is that I worked for Sercks for 14 years .Strange re what is known as the Serck plate. The pressed plates were known as Security style and the font was unique . At the time the font was legal as it had to be 'of a style largely the same as the Charles Wright font ' .
The big selling feature was that each pair was hand numbered and could be traced back to the issuing branch , that was prior to the transfers becoming available for acrylics.
They used to be popular with lorry fleets as acrylics of that age were fragile ( thick and inflexible ).
The number plate market become highly competitive and Security style fell by the wayside about 20 years back as the last of the presses and printing machines left the branches to be replaced by centralised mass production and all branch materials returned to central supplies ,over a 100 sets of dies .
The plate took a lot of production ,using a 20 ton hydraulic press followed by putting through a rotary inking machine which would then take about 15 minutes per plate to dry, I still remember the smell of the ink now !
The removal of personalisation of plates and standardisation of plates was being discussed back then but due to 'profiteers' breaking away from the mainstream plate manufacturers ,and going against gentlemens agreements , is why all this has now been legislated into a corner.
Rich (Jalopnik) , I don't know about BT pressing their own plates ? We used to supply branches in a 50 mile radius with 'Topscore' components ie the plastic letters that were held on an ali reflective with star washers .
SOC, we used to supply the Forces direct with their plates ( along with rads, brakes, clutches , hydraulics etc ) as we held an MOD contract so no chance there I'm afraid.
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Last Edit: Oct 17, 2009 7:30:20 GMT by kapri
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