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Sept 29, 2009 19:25:44 GMT
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The misses fancies a new car and I am after info on what is best Pro's and con's etc. Also really want some pictures of tastefull/euro/slammed smoothed JDM ones(no big bodykits or 17's) if you have any pictures please post them here as I'm having trouble finding any. Below is the kind of style I'm looking at. Also in PPC mag this month their is an MX5 with 200SX sr20(i think) engine.... how easy is this conversion and any pics of that? Thanks everyone Kind of style I like:
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Last Edit: Sept 30, 2009 2:37:30 GMT by bigkris
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Sept 29, 2009 20:00:39 GMT
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Heres some more:
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Sept 29, 2009 20:06:44 GMT
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The CRX Del-Sol has an awesome trick roof too!
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MX5 or Del Sol?Robinxr4i
@robinxr4i
Club Retro Rides Member 143
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Sept 29, 2009 21:35:11 GMT
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MX5 or Del Sol? Come on man MX5.......
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Sierra - here we go again! He has an illness, it's not his fault.
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horace
Part of things
mobile what?
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Sept 29, 2009 21:50:25 GMT
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Pros and Cons you say?
MX5 Pro: quick to lower roof, feels fast, RWD, great fun. Con: either removeable hard top or soft top convertible, can't be both at same time. Not as practical as an all-year-round car.
CRX Pro: trick roof, faster than MX5 in SiR spec, open top to hard top in seconds when it inevitably starts to rain. Con: roof takes up most of boot space, and will probably be broken/break immediately, FWD, less character to drive than MX5
Other than that, both cars are as practical/impractical/reliable/plasticky/fragile/cool/cheap/whatever else you are looking for as each other.
Thats just one man's experience, so feel free to disagree.
Horace
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16 wheels 8 wheel drive 19 cylinders 7.8 litres 19 seats Thats right, an Alpina B10, a Yaris TSport, a diesel Fiesta and 2 motorbikes!
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Sept 29, 2009 21:53:03 GMT
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The journey of 1000 miles starts with a single coffee.
I don't like coffee!
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Hitch
Part of things
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Sept 29, 2009 21:57:19 GMT
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Last Edit: Sept 29, 2009 21:58:34 GMT by Hitch
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will
Posted a lot
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Sept 29, 2009 22:41:09 GMT
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mx5 is one of them cars I used to hate but know get a bonner for bit exicited about sorry got no pics but like a smooth 5 on small but wide rims riding low with a bit of stretch
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Sept 30, 2009 1:41:29 GMT
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Pros and Cons you say? MX5 Pro: quick to lower roof, feels fast, RWD, great fun. Con: either removeable hard top or soft top convertible, can't be both at same time. Not as practical as an all-year-round car. CRX Pro: trick roof, faster than MX5 in SiR spec, open top to hard top in seconds when it inevitably starts to rain. Con: roof takes up most of boot space, and will probably be broken/break immediately, FWD, less character to drive than MX5 Other than that, both cars are as practical/impractical/reliable/plasticky/fragile/cool/cheap/whatever else you are looking for as each other. Thats just one man's experience, so feel free to disagree. Horace Uhh sorry, but the CRX Del Sol is actually RWD, just rear engined aswell, like an MR2 of sorts. By the way I would go for the MX5, they are fun little cars to drive, and have enough power to enjoy, especially if you get the 1.8 EDIT: It appears I didnt do my research, sorry I'm only half awake on this side of the world
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Sept 30, 2009 2:16:06 GMT
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Uhh sorry, but the CRX Del Sol is actually RWD, just rear engined aswell, like an MR2 of sorts. No it's not. The original concept was mid-engined, but the actual car is based on Civic underpinnings. It's definitely fwd.
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1989 Peugeot 205. You know, the one that was parked in a ditch on the campsite at RRG'17... the glass is always full. but the ratio of air to water may vary.
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Sept 30, 2009 2:34:20 GMT
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its strange i used to really hate MX5's but the older they get the cooler they get. i like the del sol as i know they are quick cars and handle well too but so does the MX5. I take it no-one has any info on the 200sx engined one in this months PPC mag?
Still unsure but the blue MX5 sure does give me the pot noodle horn its lovely.
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Sept 30, 2009 3:05:15 GMT
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Well, the Del Sol is a classic example of a hairdresser's car, whilst the MX-5 is one of the greatest sports cars of all time. Take your pick. In terms of reputation, the MX-5 crushes the Del Sol into dust. Also, the MX-5 is far more suitable for club motorsport and quick blasts through the hills. Can even take on the Del Sol at it's own game for a bit of posing in town next to hair salons, if that's what you like! ;D
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Sept 30, 2009 3:59:12 GMT
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Well, the Del Sol is a classic example of a hairdresser's car, whilst the MX-5 is one of the greatest sports cars of all time. Take your pick. In terms of reputation, the MX-5 crushes the Del Sol into dust. Also, the MX-5 is far more suitable for club motorsport and quick blasts through the hills. Can even take on the Del Sol at it's own game for a bit of posing in town next to hair salons, if that's what you like! ;D But at the risk of offending the majority on this thread i think of the MX5 as being the more 'hairdresser type' car? is the Del Sol more gay then lol maybe I'm camper than i like to think
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Sept 30, 2009 4:12:43 GMT
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i just found this too. Why cant the Del Sol lump be in the MX5
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MX5 or Del Sol?davemk1gti
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Sept 30, 2009 6:33:41 GMT
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I have owned both at the same time. heres the Del xol heres the MX5 The del sol first........... my one is a UK model with the DOHC Vtec engine 165bhp ish. it has a MANUAL roof instead of the electric one - this means a massive boot instead - truly tardis like. the roof unclips and stows away in less than a miunte. it performs very well and is great fun on B roads, cheap insurance as based on a civic too. The MX5.......... It took me a while to sus it out but then I found a b road and a heavy right foot and I smiled all the way home - I gave the MX5 a proper thrashing and the noise, feel and handling made me feel like a race driver, ultimately not as fast down the same road as the del sol but who cares? The main problem with the MX5 is things like shopping, the boot is big enough for 2 carrier bags and thats your lot. We had to sell one of them to get a 4 door car and so we opted to sell the MX5. For me the Delsol I have is a practical every day car, good on fuel when yo want it, bomb proof engine and enough performance to get you banned fairly quickly, lots of 'mods' out there if you are that way inclined, mine is lile;y the only 'standard' one left as they are favoured by the 'kids'
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Sept 30, 2009 9:15:34 GMT
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Well I have not had a Del Sol.. or the joy of a ride in one but I did trade my Volvo 240 for a MX5.. so far I love it.. as Dave says find a B-Road and it makes sense like you wouldn't believe. Mines an early 1.6. The later 1.6's (from when they introduced the 1.8) had less power as the 1.8 didn't produce much and its not something you can easily bump up.. too many changes. So the early 1.6 or a 1.8 is best choice in my opinion. (1.6 is cheaper insurance and only about 10bhp down on the 1.8) LSD's are cheap secondhand and don't perform half bad.. mine has had a little testing recently! I'm 6'2" and fit in it comfortably enough too. Plenty of mods out there for both and both have their issues.. as mentioned above but in my experiance its no issue really.. My 5's roof doesn't leak (so far) and is far from new. Hardtops look nice on the right car but cost a small fortune secondhand. As for boot space.. yeah its small but its bigger than most roadsters. I can get all my dive gear in it (aside from my looong spearguns which live on the front seat.. but then they didn't all fit in the 240 either.) We went shopping in it yesterday and fitted three big bags in comfortably. Also did a trip to the midlands for the weekend. Fitted mine and the Mrs' bags, birthday presents extra shoes and coats in the boot too. I just got a 'boot bag' www.boot-bag.com/toppage1.htm for it as well, thought of a rack but after investigation the cost, loss of rear vis and need for a waterproof bag to go on top of it as well told me to look elsewhere. So far the boot bag is great, hasn't leaked, hasn't scratched the paint or fallen off and almost doubles the boot space.. plus it sits low enough for me to still see behind to some extent. The 5 isn't too bad on fuel it costs about £35 to fill the tank at current prices and i've been doing 250-300 miles a tank 'spirited driving' ;D mostly on B roads. Parts are pretty cheap and there is plenty of options for more power. The SR20 conversion isn't a straight swap by any means I'm afraid. In fact pretty much nothing is and with its construction most mods to fit an engine probably put you in SVA territory. That said the early 1.6 is the same block used in the 323 turbo.. and so enjoys forced induction Many peeps on the web running 200+ hp on standard internals. Thats the route I'm looking at, although a supercharger would suit its driving style more, its a bit more of a costly build. As you might of guessed i'm a bit of a convert ;D if your ever in Dorset and want to take one for a spin let me know
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Daily: Spazda Mx5
'A52's Fastest steak eater 2010'
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Sept 30, 2009 9:30:03 GMT
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Oh and try googling 'SR20 into miata' just found this but cant be bothered searching more.. although may appear its easier than I thought.. although its from USA and therefore LHD: To swap SR-20DET into Miata, a complete parts kit is available for bolting SR-20 from Nissan S13, S14, S15 and 5 speed gearbox from S13, S14 directly into Miata with NO cutting of subframe, bonnet or steering rack position. www.miatasr20.com/has details, prices and photos of kit bolted to SR engine / gearbox to show quality of work. The kit includes engine mountings (using the Miata rubber mounts in standard position to bolt to the SR-20) and gearbox adapter that bolts directly to Nissan gearbox to connect to the Mazda Power-Plant Frame (ppf). Gearbox fits into Miata body with clearance and shifter fits in original position. A fully fabricated sump is available that is a direct bolt-on replacement that has integral oil passageway and pick-up, includes a stainless steel pressed oil separator tray - full length of engine and all hardware. Sump is level with lower edge of subframe (fully protected and no loss of ground clearance) and allows engine to fit under standard bonnet. Sump has been extensively tested in motor-sport application. Kit takes away all the hard work of installation whilst keeping engine, gearbox and Miata suspension, steering standard for ease of replacement parts etc. Kit has been available since 2004. www.sportcompactcarweb.com/features/0411_sccp_1993_mazda_miata/index.html
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Daily: Spazda Mx5
'A52's Fastest steak eater 2010'
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Sept 30, 2009 9:50:14 GMT
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Can't recommend the MX-5 highly enough, I absolutely love mine. It's a mkI (NA), later-spec 1.6 (i.e. down on power compared to the original 1.6, as joethefish said), but a K&N restores a large chunk of the lost power. Not that you really *need* a huge amount of power, the chassis is sublime and the handling faultless and engaging. Don't get me wrong, I love big-power machines, but there's something very rewarding about wringing every last drop out of the Mazda - you put the effort in, and it rewards you in spades. I had a Volvo 850 T5 before this, and the leap from one to the other is hilarious, they couldn't be more different; you can get complacent with 200+bhp! The MX-5 isn't just a car, it's a buddy. They're not practical, as mentioned before. The boot is absurdly tiny. You have to pack cleverly for weekends away. But they are cheap to run - mine seems to use no fuel at all, and I recently had it in the garage for some work (new cambelt, diff oil, gearbox oil, engine oil & filter, plugs, fuel filter, water pump, oil seals & gaskets etc) and it came in at about £450 for the lot - it would have been twice that on the Volvo! Insurance is cheap too, and as for the car itself - £1400 for an R-reg minter. Can't be bad.
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Sept 30, 2009 12:40:40 GMT
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You last 3 guys they were the kind of comparisons i have been looking for. and joethefish thank you so much for finding info on the SR20 MX5's. By the sounds of it it you want speed and practicality then the del sol is the one to have and if you are after fun and a car with character the MX5? I must admit visually i like the MX5 but in the sound of a VTec is awsome. But as she is a woman i think the car with character would win with her. Thanks for the opinions and contributions everyone!
And if you feel different still feel free to post.
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Sept 30, 2009 12:50:41 GMT
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No worries and I think you hit the nail n the head.. the DelSol wins on practicality but the MX5 is probably more fun and definately has more character.. in my humble opinion at least! ;D If your looking for more power from a 5 I'd suggest forced induction is the way to go.. similar gains, less cost and less upsetting the balance of the car.. which after all is what makes it what it is.
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Daily: Spazda Mx5
'A52's Fastest steak eater 2010'
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