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For sticking stuff together screws are good, but see if you can get hold of some polyurathane foaming glue.
The stuff sticks wood together like you wouldn't believe. Will help stop things tweeking loose over time.
The mockups are looking good so far. If you need any info about coating timber or any other wood questions then give TRADA a call 01494 569601 and either ask, or ask for me!
Lewis
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For sticking stuff together screws are good, but see if you can get hold of some polyurathane foaming glue. The stuff sticks wood together like you wouldn't believe. Will help stop things tweeking loose over time. The mockups are looking good so far. If you need any info about coating timber or any other wood questions then give TRADA a call 01494 569601 and either ask, or ask for me! Lewis Thats a great lead, thanks Lewis. I am in a quandry as to how to manage the exposed wood, as I need longevity from the whole thing.
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my old dad was given a tip by a cabinet maker years back for perserving wood , if your going to varnish it thin it down as thin as possible , it will absorb into the wood easier if thinned , and it gives a lovely finish when the final coat goes on,. if youve the space , spray the varnish on , no brush marks. alternativley theres also teak oil , danish oil, waxing . but you cant varnish over these. on the forum theres a guy called sidspop , hes a good source for info on wood working and the such. ade. oh nice project too mate , watching with interest.
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The sides on mine were given several coats of sand/seal, Which is a 50:50 mix of yacht varnish and white spirit. By the time the second side is covered, the first is ready for the next coat. A light sanding between every couple of coats, Not only does it soak well in , it also makes the surface of the wood harder and bore resistant to knocks. After that it had a coat of Mipa bar coat and then 2 coats of celulose matt black. All topped of with a couple of coats of warmed up yacht varnish. this left me with a nice glossy finish Grizz, how long are you going to make your trailer? don't forget if you are going for the rounded teardrop shape at the front, and doing it out of one 8x4 sheet, the floor will need to be slightly shorter than 8 foot
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I don't WANT TO DIE A GROWN UP!
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The sides on mine were given several coats of sand/seal, Which is a 50:50 mix of yacht varnish and white spirit. By the time the second side is covered, the first is ready for the next coat. A light sanding between every couple of coats, Not only does it soak well in , it also makes the surface of the wood harder and bore resistant to knocks. After that it had a coat of Mipa bar coat and then 2 coats of celulose matt black. All topped of with a couple of coats of warmed up yacht varnish. this left me with a nice glossy finish Grizz, how long are you going to make your trailer? don't forget if you are going for the rounded teardrop shape at the front, and doing it out of one 8x4 sheet, the floor will need to be slightly shorter than 8 foot Hi Mate, I am doing a modified GRUMMAN design, starting with 5 x 10 foot sheets, and yes, I know the floor will be a shorter than 10 foot Total length of the chassis is 14 ft 3 inches. Tongue currently calculated at 53 inches (allowing space for gasbottles or a folding bike. Body will max out at 10 foot, with floor a bit shorter. I am using about 8 inches as a skirt , leaving 4 foot 3inches for height. Width will end up at 5 foot as dictated by ally sheet. Floor will be cut to 4 foot 11 inches. Of course nothings done till the fat lady sings.
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Last Edit: Dec 7, 2010 21:35:25 GMT by grizz
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Looking good mate Nice seeing this on Friday, i was surprised how big it is in real life
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Nice work so far, Grizz. I seriously thought about building one of these, but given how bad I am at getting on with things I'll stick to a tent for now.
Handy hint for those varnishing wood - avoid B+Q's own brand "quick drying" varnish. I refinished a desk with it a week ago and it's still a little tacky.
EDIT - 'cos I sounded too grumpy and whingy. Sorry.
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Last Edit: Oct 5, 2009 15:15:02 GMT by jrevillug
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Tips others have given above are good.
The other thing to consider is moisture traps. Make sure that there is nowhere where moisture could get trapped and linger.
End grain of timber is very absorbant to water, but also finishes, so make sure you drown end grain in whatever you choose to finish it with.
The other school of thought is to just oil the timber and allow it to breathe.
I would do as above. Thin down some good varnish and put on lots of thin coats to allow it to soak in as much as possible.
Lewis
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Thanks Lewis, I think the thing I will do once the frame is cut and screwed together is to soak the whole thing with a couple of coats of clear varnish, even though I want to Hammerite everything in site, maybe some roof paint too. Also want to paint the chassis with Hammerite in dark brown or whertever I have in the shed.... basically just to make it "disappear" under the body. TODAY WAS A GOOD DAYI was given a 3m x 3m Gazebo by a Freecycler, and it is going to be such a huge help, seeing as today was the first day of rain, so I will be able to build in the rain, but also keep the marine ply dry till its all coated. In his absence, a massive thank you to a guy called Terry who has saved the trailers proverbial bacon. Amazing the kindness of people. RIGHT.... Mike did some photoshops on the Peugeot wheels I am watching, they fit straight onto the hubs, even though I ultimately want Radars on there to go with the bus wheels. What do you think ?? White backgrounds. Imagine the thin spokes polished or diamond cut. Both Mike's and my favourite.... green.
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Last Edit: Oct 5, 2009 19:49:04 GMT by grizz
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Currently driving a '68 Karmann Ghia as my daily. Don't ask about previous cars - there have been way too many and I stopped counting at 160!
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Great link Kerry, do you know what sort of money he charges per wheel, or per set ? OK, so today I got given a brand new FREE Gazebo, 3x3m will make a huge difference, will put it up over the weekend. Nicola and I had today off as well, and there were a few options. 1.) London by train and do some museums. 2.) Take the Ford Anglia 100E down to Whitstable and Canterbury for a picnic. 3.) What we did as it was raining this morning....... Go to Essex, into the caravan breakers yard for 2 double glazed caravan windows, and then to Lakeside for a browse through IKEA and lunch of Meatballs and chips with unlimited coffee, followed by more girly walking about in the shopping centre, and homeward by 6pm or later. I am pleased to say, Option 3 won the day due to the rain. I paid £40 for a pair of very good condition double glazed caravan windows in acrylic with a slight tint. While shopping in a place called "WHAT ! "I found some wall clocks for £1 each, with 12 inch raised wooden frames, perfect for portholes I thought and bought 4 which will get stripped and used on the outside and inside of the Teardrop, with the windows being built into the walls... make sense ?? While in the shop I found some more cheap and tacky stuff, note the chromed eagles, good for the sides of the trailer, or even the rear. A Shark type aerial. Two sets of small wall mount/bulkhead pivotal lights for the interior, which run off batteries. Nicola also found a very perfectly tacky tomato sauce or is it ketchup, bottle. She found some storage bins with flip up lids that are 12 inches wide for £1 each at Wilkinsons, to go on the shelf in the galley. (NOTE: All or none of the tacky stuff may make it onto the trailer. ) Lastly, I found some more Maltese Cross valve caps, to replace the one stolen of the bus recently, and a spare set for the wheels on the trailer. Treasures, tacky or not.
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Last Edit: Dec 7, 2010 21:37:08 GMT by grizz
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Great link Kerry, do you know what sort of money he charges per wheel, or per set ? He says it takes about 2 hours per vehicle and tyres can be done on or off the car and costs £15 per tyre for white bands and £20 per tyre for red bands. Bands can be anything upto 3" wide I think. V. tempted to get one of my cars done
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Currently driving a '68 Karmann Ghia as my daily. Don't ask about previous cars - there have been way too many and I stopped counting at 160!
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Hi Ade, take a look in the "Build Journals" section. I am also on here: tearjerkers.net/forums/viewforum.php?f=30There are some awesome stuff out there, and if I can deliver at 50% of what the guys there do, I will be pretty chuffed. This whole internet thing is great.
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ahhh yeah see your there already. yeah your right the internet has opened up a whole new world of possibilities for the everyday man. before tinternet man passed on information by word of mouth or books. now its passed globaly in nano seconds.. kep up the good work mate , love the idea of the wall clocks for the porthole surrounds. very neat. ade
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Ultimately decided to walk away from the Peugeot wheels, and have a very nice guy make me a pair of wheel adaptors for the Caravan hubs, which will be fitted with another set of Radar wheel, so that they match the bus. It is more costly, but the look will just be so much more complete. Hope you guys agree. Wheels I will be buying when Midland Wheels do a production run of White again. Not their most popular choice for sales.... which is part of the reason I went with the white rather than a polished or chromed wheel.
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Last Edit: Dec 7, 2010 21:38:01 GMT by grizz
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excellent choice , thumbs up from me
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Sorry for being so blunt on this subject last week mate...... Glad you´ve seen the light.....Matching wheels do make the difference
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Ultimately decided to walk away from the Peugeot wheels, and have a very nice guy make me a pair of wheel adaptors for the Caravan hubs, which will be fitted with another set of Radar wheel, so that they match the bus. It is more costly, but the look will just be so much more complete. Hope you guys agree. Wheels I will be buying when Midland Wheels do a production run of White again. Not their most popular choice for sales.... which is part of the reason I went with the white rather than a polished or chromed wheel. Nice rims. very smart , what pcd are they.
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5x205 (early Beetle, VW Splitty & T2a)
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Last Edit: Oct 9, 2009 12:08:07 GMT by Oldbus
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