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Jul 29, 2009 17:57:16 GMT
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I got some nice wheels for my ford spectron mini bus.I have just been told by a friend that because it is a commercial van that when i take it for a mot they will not pass it because they are not the standard size wheels and tyres and that they are low profile tyres.I have fitted 17 x 205 x 45 and not 14inc wheels. So if thats the case were do you stand with the insurance.When i asked the insurance company they said it would not make any difference.Thanks
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Jul 29, 2009 17:59:25 GMT
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You can change the wheel sizes, but the tyres must be rated to take the weight.
Is the minibus classed as a PLG or a commercial van on the V5?
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Jul 29, 2009 18:23:15 GMT
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Its PLG how do i find out the tyre rated to take the weight.The original size tyres was 165 x14 then it say 6.P.R
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Jul 29, 2009 19:08:34 GMT
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This is the van in question.  |
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Jul 29, 2009 19:31:41 GMT
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i have nissan 200sx wheels and low pro tyres on my nissan vanette ,no probs with mot? interesting point though, what are those new sport transits fitted with? they are real low profile
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yes ,it started badly ,petered off in the middle and the least said about the end the better!!!
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Jul 29, 2009 19:36:30 GMT
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I have nissan 200sx wheels and low pro tyres on my nissan vanette ,no probs with mot? interesting point though, what are those new sport transits fitted with? they are real low profile They are special heavy load rated tyres, and apparently wear out mega quickly causing Sportvan owners to protest outside ford HQ! The tyre usually has its maximum load on the side somewhere, but I don't think these are checked in a PLG test anyway. It's worth checking though. |
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Jul 29, 2009 19:44:25 GMT
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So would i need the same loaded rate tyres.Thanks
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I have had a look and it does not say anywere on the original tyres the loaded rate?
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You´ll find the tyre load index on the side wall of the tyre.. My Merc has 175-80-14 88S tyres on it - the 88 is the load index. This might help you sort it out. www.tyrepower.com.au/tyre_load.aspxJust make sure you buy tyres with the same index and you´ll be alright.  |
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Hi nope i cannot find it .All it says on the tyres is 165 x 14 6 P.R On the inside of the door it says 165 x 14 PRLT 6 .What i want to do is have the new alloys fitted but with low ish profile tyres but with them not being cheap i want to get it right.
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As well as the sizing information (205/45 17) there is also the tyre's load and speed rating on the side wall. Its fairly straight forward - the speed rating is the letter coding. for example 205/45 ZR 17 88W, where Z means the tyre is rated at a running speed of over 150mph, R is for radial tyre construction, and W is max speed rating of 170mph. The 88 is the tyre's load index rating - in this case 560kg per wheel. Commercial tyres are marked with a C or LT, and will carry a Ply-rating, so its easy to tell, at a glance, if your tyres are up to the job - strictly speaking, your MOT guy should spot this.... The ply rating is what gives the commercial tyre its strength, a typical car tyre construction would be 2 ply (2 layer construction) and a commercial would be 6 or 8 ply, or of a construction which gives the same strength as 6 or 8 - this is referred to as a ply-rating. This is why van tyres give a poorer quality of ride - they have a stronger construction, meaning they are less compliant. To work out the load rating you need, you should divide you gross vehicle weight by 4 (assuming even axle loading) to give you a figure in kg's - then just compare this on a trye chart to give you the correct index letter. You should allow at least a 10% margin for safety. If your van has quite a low GVW, you may find that the tyres you have are up to the job. Sorry this is a bit of a ramble, there's loads of info online if this hasn't made things any clearer EDIT: just to help you with your old tyres - 6prlt - 6 Ply rating, LT (commercial) index. |
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Last Edit: Jul 30, 2009 9:11:03 GMT by Deleted
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Jul 30, 2009 10:43:27 GMT
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Plenty of people run larger wheels and lower profile tyres on VW vans. Legally it's probably not on, but I can't help thinking that applying some logic might be useful. When I had 17s on my T25 I was running 225/45/17 I think...standard on the front of a Diablo or on an S-Class Merc IIRC, both of which no doubt exert some pretty extreme forces on their tyres. Is your van heavier than an S-Class Merc?
I wouldn't be putting 155/55s on a working van, but 225/45s didn't make me uncomfortable.
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Jul 30, 2009 14:43:16 GMT
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My van only carries me my girlfriend and 2 kids, I cannot find the load on the log book so i have googled it and it says 1150 curb weight.
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Jul 30, 2009 20:18:17 GMT
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I run 17" wheels on my T3 Westfalia with no issues. Rear tyres are 255 50 17 Federals with a load rating of 101. fronts are Continentals with a rating of 97.
Kerb weight isnt inportant, nor sadly is what you carry.
From a construction and use point of view your tyres should be capable of supporting your maximum axle weights. So if you have a maximum rear axle weight of 1600kg then you would need tyres with a load index of 100 or above, whether you ever carry that weight wont interest VOSA.
Does it have any kind of plate with GVW or maximum permitted axle weights?
I doubt you'll get trouble at the MOT to be honest, but if you get stopped by VOSA they will check your tyres, and if they have the data for your vehicle they couldd prosecute/impound.
Oh, and if its PLG its not a commercial van surely?
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Jul 30, 2009 21:13:47 GMT
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My van only carries me my girlfriend and 2 kids, I cannot find the load on the log book so I have googled it and it says 1150 curb weight. its lighter than an S class then.  |
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Jul 30, 2009 22:01:05 GMT
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Its says PLG on log book.I have looked everywere for the GVW. i have googled it with no look.mmmmmmmmmm
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