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Dec 11, 2009 10:09:56 GMT
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ok, work has started on the new mounts which will be fitted further back and higher up. I will need to get some 'proper' seats at some point too, but for now the stock ones will have to do. If I get annoyed with the harness, I can always 'go stock' side pieces shaped to fit the floor boot panel: ends added (it's all welded internally) dressing the slight overlap on the 'panels' placement: captive nut fitted: ran out of time, so it's not fitted yet
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Dec 13, 2009 20:38:28 GMT
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decided to make an additional plate to spread the load, though I hope it never has to checking placement: attached: in place - the two holes are so I can drop a pair of bolts through and have another spreader plate underneath. a lick of paint: waiting for it to dry before I bolt the harness on and adjust it
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1970 MG Midget 1275Nathan
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Dec 15, 2009 11:32:44 GMT
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This thread has got my MOJO pumping and have now started work on mine.
Excellent work there mate.
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Dec 15, 2009 12:33:21 GMT
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^^+1 I really need to get mine sorted too. I looked at a type 9 conversion and found that charles ware the minor place will do the parts individually so you can make what you can or out scorce some of it. I fitted a frontline telescopic conversion to mine but it needed serious fettling (welding and drilling) to get it to fit and frontline were of no help whatsoever not even returning my calls. I'd never spend that kind of money (£400 +) with them again. Now where's that hard top.
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1970 MG Midget 1275Nathan
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Dec 15, 2009 12:46:55 GMT
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I looked into getting their rear axle converion for the GT, but found them to be the same.
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Dec 15, 2009 16:47:53 GMT
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I'm going to make a concerted effort to get the front electrics working next. Theres loads of bad earth problems and the wires are old and the connectors knackered. I've been faffing about making connectors for the old wires but I think it will be easier to just replace the whole front loom. I think I'll need to add separate earths for the indicator/sidelight housings as they are rusty as you like and cost ---way--- too much to replace, though I do have an ebay watch saved for them
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Dec 16, 2009 21:58:14 GMT
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check me out with my working headlamps indicators mostly work too, but for some reason are rea-aa-ll-y slow. it's a fresh battery that will spin the starter no probs, so I don't think its that, so has to be an elusive bad earth I guess. wiring is just mocked up here - I stripped all the plastic tape and tar stuff so I could chop off all the rusty connectors and re-route the wires - the horn will be moved, so those wires beeded to be stripped out anyway. still need to gte some sidelight bulbs, as both had gone. i'm hoping for coincedence rather than 'wiring loom fire' short somewhere
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Dec 21, 2009 12:07:34 GMT
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Looking good. Really like Midgets. If the seats are mounted anything like the MGB then I can agree the mounting is daft. I removed mine to get to the speedo and under dash easier and then spend longer remounting it than I did on the dash....
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Dec 21, 2009 17:13:31 GMT
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Midget indicators are awfull especially if the engines not running, something to do with the type of relay they use and most of them do it. You can up grade them apparently but I've yet to find out where the new relay comes from or a part number.
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Dec 21, 2009 23:58:17 GMT
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Another major weak point is the bullet connectors. Because of the way they are crimped with the neat little hole in the end, they admit water, the capillary action of the wire strands draws water all the way up the wire and basically turns the copper to oxides.
The current the wire can carry is then moved down the scale from Not Much (new) to Abysmal (30+ years down the line).
Hook a battery charger up to it to simulate the dynamo charging and see if they blink any faster. Telltale of poor current through the indicators is on for a long time, short off blink, as the bimetallic strip warms up juuuuust enough to plink into its off position but not warm the canister much.
You can expect it to be equally abysmal on both sides.
You can try this if you own a multimeter:
Lift the rear lens off and pull the bulb out. Pull the front bulb too. Disconnect the battery. Switch the ignition switch on, put the indicator stalk down to put on the right signal on. Test the resistance between the front indicator centre terminal and the battery + lead. (Well, the back one will be easier for you, but you'll probably have to use a length of wire to extend the multimeter wire for the front unless you use the starter solenoid connection) It shouldn't be more than a few tens of Ohms (5-30) If it's more than a hundred or so there's your problem.
I'd put money on the indicator > wing > body connection. It's nearly always bad, even with good metal like you have. I ran a ground lead from the front light mounting nut up to the battery - mount nut and it helped immensely.
--Phil
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Dec 22, 2009 14:15:56 GMT
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cheers I have also come to the conclusion that extra earth wires will probably be the best bet. they are doing the 'on a long time, off for a bit, then stay on' thing. I know the back is ok as when I used an interior light cluster in place of the indicator (when I had the wings off) they flashed perfectly. will weld on some male crimp connectors to the inner wing or something like that later Ideally I need a fuse box / bus bar type thing, have to see what I can find in my electrics box.
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Dec 22, 2009 19:42:47 GMT
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too cold in the garage tonight so stayed in and ordered some proper bits to create an earthing point under the bonnet (abttery is in the boot now you see)
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Remember to do the same for the headlights Very bad earth also identifiable by the sidelight coming on and alternating between turn/side (when you get bulbs try it) as the current has to go somewhere so it backfeeds through the sidelight circuit.
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Last Edit: Dec 23, 2009 3:34:43 GMT by PhilA
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Jan 24, 2010 22:27:46 GMT
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finally managed to find some time to get back in the garage and do some more work on the car. Idecided to take the front end apart again and I'd forgotten to put some brackets on and I wanted to finally fix the lights. With the bonnet off it's also easier to sort out the fusebox and I also need to fit the heater. If I have to do this again, I might get a fiberglass bonnet semi-dismatled: forgotten panel: possible cause for the bad earth ? new ones will be bought tomorrow
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Jan 25, 2010 13:07:19 GMT
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treated myself (using money I'd made selling some old computer tat on ebay) to a pair of new housings. These will have an earth wire added too, as trusing the captive nuts on the wing to move the power from the battery to the bulbs is a bit much hopefully will have time to fit them tonight
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Jan 25, 2010 22:35:39 GMT
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Jan 25, 2010 22:38:24 GMT
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next up I tackled the manifold as while I had the wing and bonnet off it made sense. carbs off: manifold off: red means faster: but of course it doesn't fit: and has to be persuaded into place: I then had to make up a block off for the mech fuel pump: whcih will get tidied up before fitting
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Jan 26, 2010 12:48:53 GMT
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Can never understand why the Manifolds never fit, the engines cant be that much out can they.
In recent new I have also picked up a New Midget for the missus, best part its got Race running gear.
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Jan 26, 2010 13:58:49 GMT
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Can never understand why the Manifolds never fit, the engines cant be that much out can they. In recent new I have also picked up a New Midget for the missus, best part its got Race running gear. I can only think that whoever makes them must only tack them together while they are on the jig, then seams it all up with it in a vice etc, so it warps a bit with the heat. assuming they use a jig of course
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