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Jan 19, 2009 19:19:57 GMT
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Jan 19, 2009 19:29:10 GMT
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A 1600 would be relatively dead. In their time, the 2.8s were largely marketed at a high end, so I wouldn't be too concerned about one being ragged. As for power, they're probably around the same of any of your opel turbos or worse, 160bhp if you're lucky.
That laser is likely to go for ~1000 give or take a few hundred possibly. Later 2.8 models came with full leather interiors and limited slip diffs, but they're a bit softer feeling around the edges, and often command a higher price. A two litre can be tuned to your hearts content on nearly any budget, and will a couple of hundred pounds in it, easily give a 2.8 a run for it's money. The 2Ls are also more fuel efficient than the 1600 - which essentially the same pinto engine with a different bore and a curse word carb.
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Jan 19, 2009 19:33:29 GMT
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8tee8
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Jan 19, 2009 19:52:44 GMT
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that 1600 on ebay really caught my eye. lovin the paintjob  |
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Jan 19, 2009 20:03:29 GMT
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Yeah, it looks spotless. I've driven two Rover 213's in my life, so I've driven 'slow'! I think the 2.0 makes more sense though. However, I see the 1.6 as a more sensible option as the chances of it being better looked after? I dunno, that's how I see it. The 2.8's on the bay are hideous looking or 'restored' (big money). |
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Jan 19, 2009 20:05:21 GMT
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Hmm i have to disagree about the 1.6 being worse than the 2.0. Ive had a 1.3 and it was great, but very slugish. The 1.6 could always keep up with my 2.0s ive had. However both were very reliable. I don't think any of my Capri's ever broke down? Capris are not really fast, they just look it which is the whole idea of them. They are also very comfortable. When i owned them the only real thing you had to look for was the strut tops that rot. We always plated them, but I'm not sure what the fix is these days. I would imagine a proper piece has now been fabricated for them. Ive had a black 1.6 Jps special which was mint and amazing and I also owned a Brooklands that my friend very kindly put backwards into Pevensy castle for me in the wet.
I think the 1.6 and the 2.0 are probably the best value ones to go for and a very practicle classic now that still isnt really fetching the money it should.
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i had a 2.0s and i put a cheap second hand 2.1 bottom end in it and a big valve ported and polished head (when one came up at a good price) oh and a lightened flywheel and even with just a 38dgas carb rather then twin webbers i managed ot get my capper to 135mph .... great fun
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Jan 20, 2009 10:14:24 GMT
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The 2.8's on the bay are hideous looking or 'restored' (big money). Yeah, this worries me. Five years ago I bought a fully restored 2.8i (and I mean everything done) with a stage three engine and a year's ticket for £1500. Those days are gone.  Still, I got a perfectly usable 2.0 Laser for £500 a couple of years ago too, and at that price it's not going to lose you any money. Most important point was that neither of my Capris ever, ever broke down. (Aside from one lunched gearbox, that is.) They're practically indestructible. |
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Jan 20, 2009 10:19:54 GMT
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Blimey! Well, I have owned a fleet of Capri's, each one of them with their own joys: My 1977 MK2 1.3 was a rusty heap, and a slow one. Why Ford put a 1.3 in a Capri I'll never know. My 1985 1.6 Laser was okay, not the fastest thing in the world by any means, but they're not as slow as you think. My 1985 2.8i was a "thrashed" example but it still went like the clappers, love it, but it rusted away! My 1977 MK2 2.0 was great. Ratty as hell, but mechanically tip-top. 205 blocked pinto, 5 speed with quickshift and a 3.0 rear axle made for a good drive. Miss that car. Still lives on somewhere. My 1983 2.8i company car was epic, no two ways about it. But it was a mint 54,000 milerand it was the Retro Ford magazine car. My 1976 MK2 3.0 was a machine. If you have the means I'd highly suggest going for an Essex powered car as they are so much more torquey than the Cologne 2.8i lump, simple mechanicals too. Went like a steam train and was easily one of my favourite cars ever. My 1977 MK2 1.6GL.....lets not talk about that. In a nutshell, get a 1.6 if you have to, but aim for 2.0. If you ever see a 3.0 powered car, buy it! And if you want a 2.8i, be careful, don't worry too much about it being thrashed, just look for rust, damage and heavy wear and tear. Here, have some pictures.... The 1976 3.0S  The 1977 1.6gl....grrrr.  The Retro Ford 2.8i  The 1985 Laser, as found...  The 1977 2.0...  and during a rebuild of sorts....  Chris |
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Nathan
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Jan 20, 2009 10:20:24 GMT
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I recently bought a Capri, Paris Blue 1.6 laser. The 1.6 has as much go as a 80 year old on Viagra, mine was smoking a bit so I waited around a bit for a new new engine. I managed to score a right bargin 2.0 205 block, new HC pistons, high torque head, vernier timing gear had only done 1000 miles since all the work was done, managed to score it for sub 300. I think the car cost me 600, which TBH was over the odds as it needed a bit of work.
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Jan 20, 2009 12:16:28 GMT
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My experience with Capris has taught me that: 1.6 is on the slow side and very shortly you'll be desperate for more power. 2.0 is a good laugh, enough torque from that eager little Pinto engine, though only 90bhp so even then don't expect it to be quick. But once my old 2.0 Laser had a set of 7Js and an Ashley system on it, it was just so much fun, despite the lack of power. 3.0 is by far the most tuneable lump with plenty of low-down torque and a throaty engine note, and of course, it's got the cachet of the Professionals association. 2.8 Injection has always been my favourite though, the engine is a crude old thing and it doesn't respond to modification at all well, but with a set of Janspeeds it makes a cracking noise, and as standard they're the most modern-feeling and best-handling of them all. The Bilsteins make it huge fun to drive too, not fast or even particularly competent, but responsive with plenty of feel and a progressive back end. And nowadays there are plenty of good 2.8s around. If you're going down the 2.0 route, I'd say go for a 2.0S or a 2.0 Laser, on account of the slightly higher spec (six-clock dash, better seats, centre console, wider wheels). However, I'd still say that you'll get the most satisfaction out of owning a V6 model, specifically a 2.8 Injection. With 150bhp, I don't think it's over-the-top, and I've always found them to be huge amounts of fun. A few pics of mine for your enjoyment. The black 2.8 Injection was my pride and joy for five years; the silver 2.0 Laser a slightly ratty runaround I used while at uni.                        |
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 My name is Alex. I used to have a Capri. I don't anymore. But I am still called Capri. |
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Jan 20, 2009 12:39:51 GMT
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If your gonna buy a capri buy a V6 the 4 pots are all underpowered even the 2 litre S, the V6 ones drive much better and make a much nicer noise, no point havin a car like a capri if its got the power of a dead slug its to heavy for a 100bhp pinto to have any fun in and by the time you've tuned the pinto you could have bought a V6, its a show offs car so get one you can show off in. heres the last one i owned a 2.8i  and on the drive with the 2 litre laser we bought for my ex to race about in 9she's always wanted a Capri) until we took it to bits to rob all its mechanical partys for her mk1 escort.  |
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Volvo back as my main squeeze, more boost and some interior goodies on the way.
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Jan 20, 2009 12:43:03 GMT
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that 1600 on ebay really caught my eye. lovin the paintjob Are they the same colours as Stagecoach buses? I am not sure if i like that. |
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Jan 20, 2009 12:57:07 GMT
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My 1983 2.8i company car was epic, no two ways about it. But it was a mint 54,000 milerand it was the Retro Ford magazine car. The Retro Ford 2.8i I saw it over christmas. It now belongs to a boy near me that I got some parts off. |
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Jan 20, 2009 13:03:20 GMT
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 Seeing as everyone is posting theirs up, here is mine. Not mint but a work in progress and a easy one at that. Needs a new front valence (already have), could do with a new bonnet but its an easy fix if one don't come up, the only other jobs are a RR tune (1.6 carb still) and a bit of paint. |
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Jan 20, 2009 13:04:57 GMT
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My name is Alex. I used to have a Capri. I don't anymore. But I am still called Capri. |
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Jan 20, 2009 13:25:31 GMT
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Jan 20, 2009 16:22:26 GMT
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hehehee, thats quite mad. |
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Volvo back as my main squeeze, more boost and some interior goodies on the way.
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Jan 20, 2009 17:13:25 GMT
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U got me started now i want another.... then slap a 1.8TD Sierra engine in for Uber economy pmsl   |
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Jan 20, 2009 17:40:41 GMT
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2.8 seems a bit ridiculous, and is very likely to have been ragged to death.
