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Jan 15, 2009 23:44:26 GMT
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IIRC, all post 1.9.74 cars need to have the emission tested as part of the MOT test. Is that correct? If that is the case, my N reg will fail as the twin 45's are spluttering and belching fuel ....hmm. a RR session to set up the carbs correctly /rejetted / tuned will set me back £150 easily
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Last Edit: Jan 15, 2009 23:45:44 GMT by datsfun
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bstardchild
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MOT cut off dates..bstardchild
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I set my 40's up best as I could and it ran OK
I got em set up by someone who knew what they were doing on a rolling road and it made 40 bhp more and improved the mpg by 3 mpg
Still failed coughs passed the MOT mind but the tester knew I was going to "fix" them when I got home ;D
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murran
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its a visual test........ for the testers discretion!
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sowen
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MOT cut off dates..sowen
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I have a 1975 land rover v8 and that is visual check. I think the date is sometime in 1975, possibly near the end of the year for basic emissions checking.
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Wait for on of the Dave the MOT testers (there are at least two) but the "visual check" is good to some date in 1976. My Capri is '76 and has to be emission tested on a probe but as I recall its only just over the cut off date
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1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1994 Ford Fiesta
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Jan 16, 2009 10:30:32 GMT
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:)If the vehicle was first used before August 1st 1975 the emmisions test is purely a visual check, no actual measurement.
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ChasR
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Jan 16, 2009 10:34:27 GMT
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It depends on the tester. With my Midget (registered in March 1975) it failed on emmisions whilst I semi argued that it didn't need to be tested due to the age of the car. That was a standard Midget on SUs except a ported and polished head (HS4s).
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Jan 16, 2009 12:12:07 GMT
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I took mk '82 scirocco for test back in August and the tester said it was too old for an emissions test. I had a feeling he was wrong, but I didn't argue.
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1967 Morris Traveller 1971 Series IIA Land Rover 1991 Golf GL 4+e 1992 Corrado G60 1986 E28 BMW 528i
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Jan 16, 2009 12:20:43 GMT
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I set my 40's up best as I could and it ran OK I got em set up by someone who knew what they were doing on a rolling road and it made 40 bhp more and improved the mpg by 3 mpg Still failed coughs passed the MOT mind but the tester knew I was going to "fix" them when I got home ;D You have it tough in England, don't you!
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Jan 16, 2009 12:48:49 GMT
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It depends on the tester. With my Midget (registered in March 1975) it failed on emmisions whilst I semi argued that it didn't need to be tested due to the age of the car. That was a standard Midget on SUs except a ported and polished head (HS4s). It doesn't depend on the tester, the rules are the rules and that's that. If your car is failed on something it shouldn't have failed on then you should ask for an appeal form [VT17] and appeal. Testers that make up their own rules and fail cars for no reason should be struck off IMO. Rant over! ;D
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sowen
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Jan 16, 2009 13:15:42 GMT
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:)If the vehicle was first used before August 1st 1975 the emmisions test is purely a visual check, no actual measurement. Ah that was it, close to the number plate change date I think making it easier to remember
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MartinC
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Jan 16, 2009 14:25:01 GMT
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It depends on the tester. With my Midget (registered in March 1975) it failed on emmisions whilst I semi argued that it didn't need to be tested due to the age of the car. That was a standard Midget on SUs except a ported and polished head (HS4s). It doesn't depend on the tester, the rules are the rules and that's that. If your car is failed on something it shouldn't have failed on then you should ask for an appeal form [VT17] and appeal. Testers that make up their own rules and fail cars for no reason should be struck off IMO. Rant over! ;D Well said that man! Also look here : www.motuk.co.uk for the manual Interesting note in there - "Older vehicles, particularly pre-1960. may emit unavoidable smoke due to their design. Such smoke is not a reason for rejection." Date for test is 'Vehicles first used on or after 1 August 1975" before that it's a visual smoke test only, and that, despite what is written above, is at the testers discretion.
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jikovron
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Jan 16, 2009 15:42:49 GMT
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aarrggghh i'll have to get a pre 75 car soon,,,,,,my triumph on a 79 plate achieved nearly 10 time the limit for HC and about 5 times the CO ,,,,,,,,after 30 mins adjustment it JUST pipped the limits it has burnt out exhaust valves,,,,,so it blows loads of unburnt fuel out of the exhaust valve on the compression stroke (when i gring them i reckon it will run really clean)
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Jan 16, 2009 18:25:41 GMT
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aarrggghh i'll have to get a pre 75 car soon,,,,,,my triumph on a 79 plate achieved nearly 10 time the limit for HC and about 5 times the CO ,,,,,,,,after 30 mins adjustment it JUST pipped the limits it has burnt out exhaust valves,,,,,so it blows loads of unburnt fuel out of the exhaust valve on the compression stroke (when I gring them I reckon it will run really clean) 12,000 ppm HC and 22.5% CO are higher figures than I've ever recorded from any engine!! I'm surprised it ran at all!!
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kevfromwales
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Jan 16, 2009 18:53:12 GMT
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slightly o/t one here - my newly re-acquired hunter wagon has got side repeaters - can I remove these, or is it going to be an mot fail?
- is there some sort of cross over period from when side repeaters were introduced, and when they became a legal (mot) requirement?? - like are they only testable if fitted??? (I was able to remove the rear fogs and the reversing light from it)
it's an L reg, 72/73 car, and I'd ask my old man (he's a tester) but he doesn' know that the hunter has come back yet - I've been hiding it round the corner from the house!!
- kev
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Almost on the road: b11 sunny breadvan, e36 tds, 325i skidcar,
nearly there: ford f250 tathauler, suzuki alto, u11 bluey
not for a while: ford pop, 32 rails,
not in this lifetime: ruby, '29 hillman
''unfortanatly I'm quite old and scruffy and in need of some loving. my drive shaft needs a new boot....''
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ChasR
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Jan 16, 2009 18:57:57 GMT
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Hopefully with the 'B I should be OK, as it's '73 but also it seems to be in good tune (although I reckon a new Dizzy would liven it up a little, but I still have the points and timing to check.)
My Midget recorded around 1400ppm on the HC, and 6% on the CO2, although a little fettling on the carbs brought them back into line.
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Jan 16, 2009 19:01:22 GMT
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My 1979 allegro only had a visual test I'm sure... Aslong as theres no smoke then it should pass...
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MartinC
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Don't like stretched tyres, very low profile tyres & I think a car CAN be too low. Perhaps I'm odd.
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Jan 16, 2009 19:30:13 GMT
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slightly o/t one here - my newly re-acquired hunter wagon has got side repeaters - can I remove these, or is it going to be an mot fail? - is there some sort of cross over period from when side repeaters were introduced, and when they became a legal (mot) requirement?? - like are they only testable if fitted??? (I was able to remove the rear fogs and the reversing light from it) it's an L reg, 72/73 car, and I'd ask my old man (he's a tester) but he doesn' know that the hunter has come back yet - I've been hiding it round the corner from the house!! - kev It doesn't need side repeaters (They're probably an aftermarket accessory) or fog lamps, or reverse lamps, or wing mirrors, or door mirrors, or hazard warning lights, or in fact anything that wasn't standard fitment. That said, if any of those are fitted they should fail if broken.
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Last Edit: Jan 16, 2009 21:07:05 GMT by MartinC
1937 Standard Flying Twelve
1943 Bedford OYD
1947 Cadillac Fleetwood Sixty-Special
1954 Hillman Minx MkVIII
1956 Austin A30
1957 Vauxhall Victor Super
2001 Chrysler 300M
2002 Rover 75 Connoisseur SE Tourer
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MOT cut off dates..BenzBoy
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Jan 16, 2009 19:35:55 GMT
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My 1975 Merc has had a visual test on some MOTs and a full emissions test on others... I think to be fair it was registered in October '75 so it should have an emissions test.
I don't mind that much really, I often weaken it off as much as I dare before the MOT then tweak it up afterwards... ;D
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kevfromwales
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Jan 16, 2009 19:46:49 GMT
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cheers martin!!
off with the repeaters then!!
- kev
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Almost on the road: b11 sunny breadvan, e36 tds, 325i skidcar,
nearly there: ford f250 tathauler, suzuki alto, u11 bluey
not for a while: ford pop, 32 rails,
not in this lifetime: ruby, '29 hillman
''unfortanatly I'm quite old and scruffy and in need of some loving. my drive shaft needs a new boot....''
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