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20/50 in the 2002. almost anything, it gets an oil change twice yearly. it wasn't designed to run on owt fancy, asda forecourt oil is probably better quality controlled than run of the mill stuff back in '74. Yeah that's the way I see it too. I've used oil meant for diesels in my car before because it had a sort of "in-between" viscosity. And it was discounted... ;D
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Usually Duckhams or Unipart 20W50. Picked up two bottles today in fact as I ought to do a change on the Herald. And I tend to treat oil leaks as "free" rust proofing too
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Good Topic! - as I'm always wondering whats best. - Today I are be fitting these oils in these cars as thats what I've been 'advised' to do - please advise differently!
Capri Mk1 fitted with SD1 V8 gets the 10w/40 Granada Mk1 3.0V6 gets the 20w/50 BMW E30 325I & E30 318I get the 10w/40
Tend to use the Tesco/Homebase/B&Q route as I change oil @ every 2000 miles. Have been told MINERAL is king as synthetic isnt good for us 'Old Boys'.
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Last Edit: Jan 7, 2009 20:43:59 GMT by BudgieV8
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Smartprice or Tesco value. Me too. Good enough quality for me and its rarely in the sump for more than 1000 miles.
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if you regularly drive the vehicle for long trips them then the oil can be left in for ages,,,i change mine when it starts leaving moisture under the oil cap,,, which varies between 2000-6000miles on mine
cheap oil is just like any other "classic" oil,,,,,clean and with minimal additives,, oil only gets changed to refresh the degraded additives and remove the impurities that has built up in it (so pointless spending loads on expensive oil for a 50's designed pushrod motor,,, imo)
20/50 is really good for old motors with rubbish oil pumps but they have to be used for long journeys,,,,,cars used for little brief trips would make me fill with 15/40,,,,and changed more regularly
imo it's probably wise to go with the manufacturers recommendations ;D
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Last Edit: Jan 7, 2009 20:04:22 GMT by jikovron
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:)I use Duckams 20W/50 in my Skodas. I change it when it get's dirty, I don't worry about the mileage so much. It was Skodas recommended brand and viscocity back in the day, says so on the sticker on the air filter.
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My old Chevy uses that much oil I put the cheapest heaviest stuff in ! Once I get a decent engine I may go for the thinner stuff.
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All my older cars have had 20/50 in them. Usually the cheapest I could find. Most of them used so much anyway that you had a gradual oil change on the go. When I had my Mini I did much the same despite various advice telling us to use synthetic.
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Some interesting points raised here. I thought synthetic (assuming it was the correct grade) could be better than modern mineral oils since it lacks detergents, but then I guess they are a modern oil, but then technology has moved on since then. Why is synthetic not suited to rebuilt motors? . I have noticed that my '79 MGB on 15W40 starts miles better than the white one which requires some cranking before it splutters into life (or rather revs a fair bit, and then drops off). But the '73 car is on points, whereas the '79 is electric now, which would also aid starting I reckon. Beetle I found ran better 15W40 Mineral than SAE 30. It used to overheat on SAE30, but was fine with 15W40, and I heard from VZi that Morris 30 is meant to be recycled oil anyway, so that may have had something to do with it. Pug I tried with 5W40 (acceptable grade) and Total 10W40 Semi (what Pug recommend). It oddly ran better on 10W40 with better MPG too, or that was a great coincidence (It wouldn't get 200 miles to half tank before. Now it will hit 220 miles without a problem unless floored) with 400 miles to a tank becoming more of a common occurrence.
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Why is synthetic not suited to rebuilt motors? Only one guy said that, and it'll be interesting to hear what he says. Often today the factory fill is synthetic from Mile 0, especially with the micro finishes on bore and the advances in ring technologies. There's not the same worries by the OEMs about break-in and seating of the rings as even 10 years ago. For my crude work, however, I use dino oil for first fill after a rebuild, to seat my very-non-OEM rings. Then go synthetic after that. And I add my ZDDP fortifier ($8/bottle) with each oil change on non-roller motors. Norm
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I think the phrase is 'any old muck'. The Mini will genrally get what ever is cheapest, which is currently 'Comma' 10w40 Semi. Not that it stays in for long....rocker cover leak, crank end seal leak, diff seal leak, gear selector leak etc..etc.. I always leave my mark
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Volvo uses Halfords 20W 50 cos it's not exactly oil tight.
I'm planning to use some Mobil 1 fully synthetic 15W 50 when I've sorted the oil leaks out.
Piazza uses 10W 40 semi synthetic oil, mainly because synthetic is a big FAIL because of tolerances, and that's what the book recommends (either that or 10W 30 SS, which I can't get anywhere).
The gearbox uses this oil as well. Which is weird.
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I think the phrase is 'any old muck'. The Mini will genrally get what ever is cheapest, which is currently 'Comma' 10w40 Semi. Not that it stays in for long....rocker cover leak, crank end seal leak, diff seal leak, gear selector leak etc..etc.. I always leave my mark I thought that leaking was a positive sign in a Mini . It means that it has oil in it. I understand for you any old muck applies, as Minis destroy oils via the 'box anyway right? One day I'll own a Mini nonetheless .
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most of mine just have whatever is knocking about, or a cheap brand of whatever weight they are supposed to if i have to actually buy some, i do tend to put nice oil in high performance engines, but most of mine are low revving barges so it don't seem to make much odds really.
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using castrol gtx for high mileage cars in my polo g40 (done 150k), not sure what grade 15s40 i think, appears to be ok, only been using it for a month or so. before i was using castrol magnetec 10w40 but it kept vanishing somewhere, yet no signs of any major leak and no blue smoke?! for my polo square i just use cheap stuff and its just an old banger really
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I filled my Pug up with Quantum 15W40, and then realised I didn't have enough. Dug out some old GTX from the garage, and that was 20W50 - I therefore have a mixture of the 2 at the moment. Hope I don't do any damage!
All my aircooled cars get Morris 30 grade. Mainly because I seem to have a garage full of it!
The Merc gets semi synthetic 15W40, because that's what the previous owner recommended.
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Last Edit: Jan 8, 2009 9:33:14 GMT by Rhodrich
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Asda 20/50 in Sven at the moment, just over £4/gallon, and I was shopping there anyway when the oil light came on.
Before that was running on 10/40, but it was using some I suspect.
the 20/50 hasn't caused any problems, even in the recent cold spell.
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Beetle I found ran better 15W40 Mineral than SAE 30. It used to overheat on SAE30, but was fine with 15W40, and I heard from VZi that Morris 30 is meant to be recycled oil anyway, so that may have had something to do with it. Must admit I found my Bug overheated more using Morris SAE30; the Penrite HD30 was much better but it cost twice the price and the nearest vendor was 25 miles away so I always went for the Morris instead. The Alpine uses engine oil in the gearbox (20/50, although I've not had to top it up yet!).
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Asda 20/50 in Sven at the moment, just over £4/gallon, and I was shopping there anyway when the oil light came on. Eep! I'd check your oil a bit more often! I've NEVER left any car so long that the oil light came on. Bad news as by then, the engine might already be eating itself and, as once happened to my wife (before I met and educated her!) the bulb might one day fail...
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Ian, my sister-the-nurse bought a new Escort a few years ago and she ran the thing *until* the little red oil light came on. Asked WTF she was doing by her big brother, she said "Well, it's just an oil change reminder light."
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