ChasR
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1973 MGB GT - Now with MOT :DChasR
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And here it is...: It appears to be tatty, and to be honest, it is to some extent. Although it does seem to have genuine mileage (53,000 miles, with MOTs going back to the mid 70s). It also have a nice bit of history to it, and over the the last decade had a few things done to it including new Kingpins, Stainless bumpers, and just general maintenance. I originally bought this car so as to be a parts donor for my Sebring Project (the Door, most of the exterior chromework including mirrors and window surrounds, and maybe the diff, as well as the head (Big Valve head on these pre 74 C/Bs:)), and then sell off the rest (engine is great, doesn't smoke and holds its pressure very well, O/D works, gearbox doesn't crunch at all, and the car's shell isn't actually too bad for a 35 year old car. But now I'm wondering if it's worth the effort, and well, after my initial deep digging, it seems a little too good to break or maybe I'm going soft. It needs part of the driver's sill repairing (it's had and inner and outer sill done before on the driver's side), and repairs to the inner wheelarch, and probably new wheelarch too. Oh and the wings may be savable, but probably needs another set. Most of the trim inside is better than mine was too. Damnit, I should have just spent more money on the bits I needed lol.
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Last Edit: Apr 9, 2009 18:25:55 GMT by ChasR
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Dec 17, 2008 17:11:18 GMT
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I wouldn't have the heart to scrap a B GT... Lol...
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194? Willys Jeep MB 1965 Volvo 544 Special 1968 Opel Rekord 1975 Opel Kadett Estate 1985 Mercedes-Benz 230E 1985 Datsun 720 King Cab 4x4 diesel 1997 Volvo S70 2.5SE (ex. "Volvo544special65" - changed to more reader friendly username. )
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ChasR
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1973 MGB GT - Now with MOT :DChasR
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Dec 17, 2008 19:59:42 GMT
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I wouldn't have the heart to scrap a B GT... Lol... Hahaha! . I had to laugh when I saw that. Sounds pathetic doesn't it? It's not the best car really. Worst thing is when setup, it's probably quicker than the Sebring too (Big Valve head and a Lucas 25D4 Dizzy). I did consider actually getting rid of both, and getting something diferent next year, but we'll see when both get a ticket and then I'll be able to make my mind up. I do have a few more bits for it now though, or rather I am ordering, and on the brown one, I've cut the rust out of the floor, so that's now ready for new metal to go in. BTW I see that you have done what I planned to do, smart . Like your choice of cars, being a closet Volvo fan.
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Last Edit: Dec 17, 2008 20:01:07 GMT by ChasR
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Dec 17, 2008 23:21:15 GMT
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Seems Sad to break it. Does not look like it would take too much work to sort it out. Hopefully you will choose to keep it in one piece next year
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Dec 18, 2008 10:22:22 GMT
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I wouldn't have the heart to scrap a B GT... Lol... Hahaha! . I had to laugh when I saw that. Sounds pathetic doesn't it? It's not the best car really. TBH I was drunk when I wrote that... Still, I like those cars very much... But I'm sure that you'll find the best solution...
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194? Willys Jeep MB 1965 Volvo 544 Special 1968 Opel Rekord 1975 Opel Kadett Estate 1985 Mercedes-Benz 230E 1985 Datsun 720 King Cab 4x4 diesel 1997 Volvo S70 2.5SE (ex. "Volvo544special65" - changed to more reader friendly username. )
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Nathan
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1973 MGB GT - Now with MOT :DNathan
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Dec 18, 2008 12:26:12 GMT
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don't Scrap it I will have it off ya!!!
I was pretty sure All MGB's ects came with the big valve head after July 73, as my car is a early 73 build and it was unknown if I had the big valve cutouts on the block. Also my mates original 76B has the big valve head and its a standard car (He nought it new).
To be honest it don't make much difference at all, you really need to send the head off to peter Burguess and get him to work his magic on it to notice any improvment.
Nathan.
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ChasR
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Dec 19, 2008 22:28:45 GMT
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Not much progress really on this. I've been trying to weld the other one up (look in the other thread), but considering my dad needed some sleep during the day I figured I'd leave the grinder, which meant I couldn't really clean the panels up, So I went on to work on this instead. First thing was to sort out the wet footwells. They have surface rust, but after prodding about underneath and top, it all seems to be ok thankfully: I may take that bitumen curse word off soon to be honest. Horrible stuff. A coat hanger, prodding about in the plug, crud onto the hanger, water on the drive, and it seems to be all clear now . I also set about some of the cosmetics (the lazy man's way). I noticed the exhaust is a stainlesss SC Parts 'Bomb' box system. So I firstly set about taking the tailpipe off as it was all rusty, although if it wasn't rusty I probably wouldn't have figured it was a tailpipe! Here's a before and after, although I think I prefer the before. And a shiny tip which will benefit from some Autoglym Metal polish . Also the chrome isn't as rusty as it looks in the pic. (Great things flashes eh? :lol:). So, what's the best way to go about preserving the chrome. I was going to get wire wool and brush the outside gently, and then rub the inside so the rust comes off (it's worked well before for me), but what would you use to protect it? I was thinking Vascelence, but any more ideas? I hear WD40 does it well. Bumpers are stainless thankfully . Still more to do, but I want to get one of them roadworthy first. But that may be a slight problem now... Read on the Sebring project for more details.
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10mpg
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Dec 19, 2008 23:43:44 GMT
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if you just want the door and the head whip them off, and sell the rest to me, my misss has been after a project MGb for years..
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The Internet, like all tools, if used improperly, can make a complete bo**cks of even the simplest jobs...
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ChasR
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To be honest, I may just take the door and leave it at that, that is if I even do decide to do it! Whilst it's not rust free, it certainly IMO seems to be a good base. How much would you want to offer me for it? Can do it over PM. Although as we speak, I'm already ordering bits and bobs for it . Heater valve and hoses on order, and a little bit of metal too.
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10mpg
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I'll have a chat to the missus and PM you about price over the weekend, I had a really tidy harvest gold 71 BGT a few years ago and she fell in love with it then, and as I restore cars for a living I've been getting nagged to get a MGB and teach her how to weld and restore cars, I can't complain most women seem to be obsessed with shoes..
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The Internet, like all tools, if used improperly, can make a complete bo**cks of even the simplest jobs...
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ChasR
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Dec 30, 2008 22:12:59 GMT
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Well, Santa (at my expense) delivered me some goodies this Xmas for it from various sources, but they all got here one way or another over the Xmas break. These involve general service items like points, oil, filters etc., metalwork to sort the car out as well as some bling around the car, if you can call it that! And well, here is what I got: Now you are wondering why I have two castle rails considering the earlier post. Basically I spotted one castle rail (genuine Heritage) at a very reasonable price on ebay. I intended to use a castle repair section, but the price/build of these swayed me otherwise. The seller did a deal for the pair after the other seller fell out. I may keep the castle rail for the future on the brown car (it may not need it), or I will probably sell it on, and stick with the plan of using about 3" out of the new section and use the flange on the brown MGB (the previous patch rotted out part of the flange, another reason I decided to get a whole section as opposed to a repair (so I'll be using one section for two cars). Bling bits include the splash shields (one was rotten slightly) and an inerior lamp cover (old lens was no more). Other bits include a heater valve and relating pipes. Now to fit it all. It's about 2 degrees on a good day over here, but I have been assured that it will warm up a little, but we'll see.
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sonus
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Dec 31, 2008 11:43:45 GMT
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You know you want to fit a 5cyl Volvo T5 engine and M90 gearbox in that car don't you
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Current 1968 TVR VIXEN S1 V8 Prototype 2004 TVR T350C 2017 BMW 340i
Previous BMW 325d E91LCI - sold Alfa Romeo GTV - sold Citroen AX GT - at the breakers Ford Puma 1.7 - sold Volvo V50 2.0d - sold MGB GT - wrecked by fire MG ZT 1.8T - sold VW E-golf Electric - sold Mini Countryman 1.6D -sold Land Rover Discovery TD5 - sold
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ChasR
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Dec 31, 2008 15:44:21 GMT
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Niels, you're not helping here . Lalalala. Although despite the exterior (and if you bar the wings out of it) the shell does seem better than the brown car .
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sonus
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Well best advice I can give is to concentrate on one car at the time. Get the brown one up and running as you want it - then start on the white one. And stop thinking about the white one being better than the brown one - I know I had to stop thinking about the price I paid for my GT (way too expensive, but love makes blind). I know my project wouldn't be done if I'd bought another one aswell. That being said I've already started thinking of a all balls out racing B based largely one Volvo parts. Why Volvo parts? well their cheap over here and used performance parts form the Volvo boys that think their 5-600BHP 240s are getting bland might just fit the B A friend has a 400BHP 520nm B230 engine that might make the B a fun place to be
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Current 1968 TVR VIXEN S1 V8 Prototype 2004 TVR T350C 2017 BMW 340i
Previous BMW 325d E91LCI - sold Alfa Romeo GTV - sold Citroen AX GT - at the breakers Ford Puma 1.7 - sold Volvo V50 2.0d - sold MGB GT - wrecked by fire MG ZT 1.8T - sold VW E-golf Electric - sold Mini Countryman 1.6D -sold Land Rover Discovery TD5 - sold
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Looks like it might be a nice little project.. I also have an MGB GT which is my pride and joy. The Brown one looks nice with the smooth rear end.
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ChasR
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Well best advice I can give is to concentrate on one car at the time. Get the brown one up and running as you want it - then start on the white one. And stop thinking about the white one being better than the brown one - I know I had to stop thinking about the price I paid for my GT (way too expensive, but love makes blind). I know my project wouldn't be done if I'd bought another one aswell. That being said I've already started thinking of a all balls out racing B based largely one Volvo parts. Why Volvo parts? well their cheap over here and used performance parts form the Volvo boys that think their 5-600BHP 240s are getting bland might just fit the B A friend has a 400BHP 520nm B230 engine that might make the B a fun place to be That is the plan. I am planning to get the Brown one done first (and so was my dad) but he now wants me to get the white one done :lol: (For the MOT I found the previous owner did all of the work bar the welding (N/S castle rail at the front, outer sills were changed about 3 years ago), so it's not quite that big a mountain for the MOT. But we'll see how the persuasion pays off :lol:. I too had thoughts of the B230 engine or the Nissan CA18 DET engine, as I reckon both (the CA18 potentially being easier) would be a nice fit, especially in the rubber bumper car, where the steering rack is already a V8 item from the factory . MGBV8, Is your MGB the one with the air intake on the front with a modified RV8 on I think an Autobox? If so, nice 1/4 mile times . What power is it making? More progress has been made (with it being winter (for the first time in yonks it's reaching -6 degrees here)) and a leaky heater valve, I've attend the cooling section, as I did on the brown one a year ago. More pics soon. And well, I'm planning on zero mods. Not before one (probably the white one) is sold, and/or both are running. (Sebring needs a floor repair, and a new flange on the castle section (have to love patched floorpans)), suspension (seized trunnion bush and ARB refitting), brakes, brightwork and interior is done so not an awful lot on both. I do have a spare set of unchromed Rostyles though...
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Last Edit: Jan 10, 2009 0:07:28 GMT by ChasR
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Jan 10, 2009 11:15:33 GMT
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Good luck with the project mate, love these, we;re restoring a low mileage mgb at work, love working on it, just had a full respray and Ive been loving putting it all back together. great cars!!
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ChasR
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1973 MGB GT - Now with MOT :DChasR
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Jan 14, 2009 13:40:36 GMT
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Progress has been slow, but effective. I will get a pic of the old heater valve, but it was a sight for sore eyes. The rubber diaphragm within was trying to go into the matrix in the form of some stringy yellow stuff coming out of the outlet. So there's a little more 'bling' some may say under the engine bay, but more importantly I'm now losing zero coolant so no more wet distributor either . I also gave the engine bay a clean which was a state as a result of the the iffy heater pipes, clips, and heater valve. Here are some before and after I could be bothered shots: I also gave the interior a good clean, and I must say Muck Off does do a sterling job of taking years of grime off dashes New dash light was also fitted: But now it is time for the inevitable... the Weldathon. Wish me luck!
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Nathan
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1973 MGB GT - Now with MOT :DNathan
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Jan 14, 2009 14:11:18 GMT
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Take your time with the welding bud, and she will bea cracking motor. Makes me want to buy another to add to my collection lol.
For engine replacements I am going MX5, basically due to them only requiring the engine mounts to be cut, even the shifter comes out in the standard place. Also no need to shorten the prop, my other idea (and reason for using the MX5) is the rear axle setup, its basically a subframe and if my mesurments are correct it should fit with limited chopping to the shell (wanna avoid any chopping to it due to the fact its perfect and straight).
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Last Edit: Jan 14, 2009 14:34:08 GMT by Nathan
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