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Nov 10, 2008 14:42:04 GMT
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blimey, some rough treatment going on by the fedz in this thread.
You rape their mums or something?
I'd also see if there was grounds for a complaint in both the cases mentioned here.
And yeah, having the address on the licence as another address is a "failure to notify" offence, also with a £1000 possible fine.
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1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1994 Ford Fiesta
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Nov 10, 2008 15:35:59 GMT
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According to my photocard it's valid from 03.08.04 to 30.06.13...
8 years, 10 months and 27 days then... that's a nice round number, i'll never forget that...
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1967 Simca 1301 1981 Austin Mini 1.0 HL 1981 Austin Allegro 1.3 HL 1993 Volvo 480ES 1995 Peugeot 405 GLX TD 1995 Renault Clio 1.4 RT
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Nov 10, 2008 16:09:46 GMT
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Got my car back today, managed to get away with the £40 storgae charge as i argued that legally they have to give you the opportunity to collect it if they are going to punish you for not. Its good though as its come back complete with a fresh scratch across the front bumper and marks on my alloys and to top it off the rubber trim from the bottom of the drivers door is laying on the back seat. Now its only a 1997 2.6 A4 and wheels are standard alloys but I'm still furious that they have blatantly damaged my car. I think I'm gonna go down the libary, borrow £150 worth of books and sell them on ebay.
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Nov 10, 2008 16:58:25 GMT
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Got my car back today, managed to get away with the £40 storgae charge as I argued that legally they have to give you the opportunity to collect it if they are going to punish you for not. Its good though as its come back complete with a fresh scratch across the front bumper and marks on my alloys and to top it off the rubber trim from the bottom of the drivers door is laying on the back seat. Now its only a 1997 2.6 A4 and wheels are standard alloys but I'm still furious that they have blatantly damaged my car. I think I'm gonna go down the libary, borrow £150 worth of books and sell them on ebay. i'd be making enquiries about small claims action against the police and the storage / recovery yard
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Someone just shot the elephant in the room.
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Nov 10, 2008 17:07:20 GMT
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What an awful story, i am pretty speechless. I hope you can get some redress from the bacon boys. Looks like a pretty clear cut case of them vigorously enforcing a law which doesnt even exist. I know this story is not directly linked to ID cards but when you hear stories like these of officials making serious mistakes and tripping people up on technicalities, the damage that they could do when everyone's activities + movements are recorded and linked up on a massive fggin database makes you shudder. I hope you can get an apology or something out of them.
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1974 Lancia Beta Saloon 1975 Mazda 929 Coupé 1986 Mazda 929 Wagon 1979 Mazda 929 Hardtop 1982 Fiat Argenta 2.0 iniezione elettronica 1977 Toyota Carina TA14 1989 Subaru 1800 Wagon 1982 Hyundai Pony 1200TL 2-dr 1985 Hyundai Pony 1200 GL 1986 Maserati 425 Biturbo 1992 Rover 214 SEi 5-dr 2000 Rover 45 V6 Club 1994 Peugeot 205 'Junior' Diesel 1988 Volvo 760 Turbodiesel Saloon 1992 Talbot Express Autosleeper Rambler 2003 Renault Laguna SPEARS OR REAPERS
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Nov 10, 2008 17:11:50 GMT
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ive never applied for the photocard id, am i in trouble ?
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SPLIT RIMS ARE FOR WINNERS
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miaspa
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Nov 10, 2008 17:17:17 GMT
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Got my car back today, managed to get away with the £40 storgae charge as I argued that legally they have to give you the opportunity to collect it if they are going to punish you for not. Its good though as its come back complete with a fresh scratch across the front bumper and marks on my alloys and to top it off the rubber trim from the bottom of the drivers door is laying on the back seat. Now its only a 1997 2.6 A4 and wheels are standard alloys but I'm still furious that they have blatantly damaged my car. I think I'm gonna go down the libary, borrow £150 worth of books and sell them on ebay. Have you got AA/RAC cover i'd be on the phone to there legal bods, both for the damage and the pull. Sounds like you upset the bib with your Traders policy so he thought he'd get you on something trivial.
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Found my flashing Pao again.
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Nov 10, 2008 17:22:52 GMT
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ive never applied for the photocard id, am I in trouble ? no, as long as your contact details (ie name and address) havn't changed and you never want to add extra entitlement or remove endorsements your paper licence remains valid until the day before your 70th b'day. tcsperformance - how are you doing with complaining about all of this? (given that their grounds for impounding the car at all were non-existant)
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To get a standard A40 this low, you'd have to dig a hole to put it in
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Nov 10, 2008 17:36:11 GMT
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.to which he replied,see you in court............................. a year later i'm still waitin IIRC the police only have 6 months from the date of the alleged offence to initiate court proceedings, the courts then have 2 days to send you a summons, so in theory you have to have a court summons though the post 6 months and 2 days after the date of the alleged offence. If a year has passed then you should be in the clear. If you do get a summons though the post don't tell them... wait until you go before the magistrates to tell them they are over the legal time limit to prosecute then ask for £500 costs! Of course if youve recently moved house the summons may have gone to the wrong address, if it has there could be a warrant out for your arrest Ive got every respect for the police and the job they do but the small number of bad apples really do wreck their public image, however we don't get to hear about the "good" work they do, only their cock-ups. That said the number of stories ive heard recently about overzealous policing, complete abuse of power and generally stopping the public from getting on with their lives is infuriating. How can the police operate if everybody hates them? They cant! I was told yesterday about a mates car that was taken from private property by the police for having no tax and crushed on the same day. Completely illegal but they did it anyway. No explanation, no redress, nothing! This thread is typical of what seems to be going on nowadays. Even if they were wrong to take your car away theres pretty much no chance of getting any sort of compensation, same with the damage to your car. You can complain all you want but nothing will happen. A few months ago I was chatting to a recovery worker at a local firm. Their yard is full of cars that have been seized by the police, many have been taken by the police unlawfully. They wont release a car until they have been paid and although the police are liable for the charges on many of the cars they NEVER pay up, leaving the innocent owners with a large bill. The insurance database that the police use for their ANPR system is only updated once a week so some cars don't appear on it for a few days. Some coppers use a bit of common sense and just give you a producer but many rely totally on the ANPR system and will seize your car if it shows as having no insurance, even if you have the paperwork to prove it. This thread adds weight to the argument that you should never produce your licence at the side of the road, its not a legal requirement to carry it on you all the time.
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Nov 10, 2008 17:57:53 GMT
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Got my car back today, managed to get away with the £40 storgae charge as I argued that legally they have to give you the opportunity to collect it if they are going to punish you for not. Its good though as its come back complete with a fresh scratch across the front bumper and marks on my alloys and to top it off the rubber trim from the bottom of the drivers door is laying on the back seat. Now its only a 1997 2.6 A4 and wheels are standard alloys but I'm still furious that they have blatantly damaged my car. I think I'm gonna go down the libary, borrow £150 worth of books and sell them on ebay. I can not believe how some of these police and storage yards get away with some of the things they do. My dad had a ldv van stolen a few years ago which was recovered with a broken steering lock and no over damage. It got sent to a storage yard by the police and they put dents all over it with the fork lift truck they were using to move it around. While lifting it up with the fork lift they also broke the exhaust off and bent the propshaft. You should check under your car just incase they lifted it up with a forklift too
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Nov 10, 2008 18:46:03 GMT
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I think you have very solid grounds to fight them and get some compensation - not only have they unlawfully confiscated your car, cost you time and money, they have also damaged your property (which they shouldn't have had in the first place!) If I were you I'd get some solid legal advice and you'll hopefully get compensated for this. It's outrageous.
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Nov 10, 2008 20:12:23 GMT
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This really doesnt sound right!! Surely if you have a licence (till your 70) then the date the card run out on doesnt matter?! I don't understand how the rozzers get away with crushing cars, or storing them and charging you!!!
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Nov 10, 2008 23:22:10 GMT
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This really doesnt sound right!! Surely if you have a licence (till your 70) then the date the card run out on doesnt matter?! I don't understand how the rozzers get away with crushing cars, or storing them and charging you!!! Alot of it is that the firm that takes your car and stores it is just a recovery firm so they are out to earn bucks. The policemans point was that cos my card had expired it voided my insurance hence they took my car. I'm gonna wait for my new license and then give it a few weeks so its all blown over then I'm gonna start going for compensation. However i think my chances of ever getting anything are slimmer than a slim mans slim bits.
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Nov 10, 2008 23:31:45 GMT
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You are really playing this the wrong way.
Like I said before, papers, local radio/telly, etc. If you let it 'blow over' it will come to nothing and you will lose. And thus, we all lose.
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Nev
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Nov 10, 2008 23:52:10 GMT
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You are really playing this the wrong way. Like I said before, papers, local radio/telly, etc. If you let it 'blow over' it will come to nothing and you will lose. And thus, we all lose. Very much so. Usually, if you don't let things drop, you get results.
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This really doesnt sound right!! Surely if you have a licence (till your 70) then the date the card run out on doesnt matter?! I don't understand how the rozzers get away with crushing cars, or storing them and charging you!!! Alot of it is that the firm that takes your car and stores it is just a recovery firm so they are out to earn bucks. The policemans point was that cos my card had expired it voided my insurance hence they took my car. I'm gonna wait for my new license and then give it a few weeks so its all blown over then I'm gonna start going for compensation. However I think my chances of ever getting anything are slimmer than a slim mans slim bits. The problem here is that the policeman was wrong. Photocard expiry does NOT affect your insurance, or your entitlement to drive. DVLA, insurance companies and motoring organizations all confirm this on their websites (mostly quoted on earlier pages of this tread...) I checked today with my insurers , who said that it would make no difference to cover, and also checked with a family member who is a magistrate, who said ONLY A COURT OR A MEDICALcan remove your right to drive. An expired licence is still an offence, carrying a max £1000 fine under the "failure to surrender" rules but it is never applied. Particularly given the mess surrounding the photocard renewals recently, of which the police and the courts have been made well aware. I agree with pog when he says complain now. Don't leave it to quieten down, get shouting about it!
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To get a standard A40 this low, you'd have to dig a hole to put it in
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We have all dug out the correct info for you, so sort it out now..
I get the feeling you're holding back for another reason?
I noticed that you say you can drive any car for any reason on your trade policy, suggest you double check it, cos mine and every other trade policy I know of, lets you drive any vehicle that you own for sdp, and any other vehicle you don't own for trade use only, ie to an mot, road test,customer demo..
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I even asked on the Police forum and they agree. while there is some possible offense due to the expiry of the photocard they should not have impounded the car. Suggestion was you should have been given a producer and then if you could not produce a valid photocard in 7 days you would get done for failure to produce.
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1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1994 Ford Fiesta
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Nov 11, 2008 17:48:37 GMT
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We have all dug out the correct info for you, so sort it out now.. I get the feeling you're holding back for another reason? I noticed that you say you can drive any car for any reason on your trade policy, suggest you double check it, cos mine and every other trade policy I know of, lets you drive any vehicle that you own for sdp, and any other vehicle you don't own for trade use only, ie to an mot, road test,customer demo.. Mine lets me drive "any vehicle in my custody or control" for SDP as well....
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Nov 11, 2008 17:55:49 GMT
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We have all dug out the correct info for you, so sort it out now.. I get the feeling you're holding back for another reason? I noticed that you say you can drive any car for any reason on your trade policy, suggest you double check it, cos mine and every other trade policy I know of, lets you drive any vehicle that you own for sdp, and any other vehicle you don't own for trade use only, ie to an mot, road test,customer demo.. Mine lets me drive "any vehicle in my custody or control" for SDP as well.... yeah, mine too. Double checked the policy wording, and spoke to them on the phone today as well. Any vehicle in my custody or control, any use except hire and reward. I think I'd get in bother for using a customers car as a minicab, but other than that.....
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To get a standard A40 this low, you'd have to dig a hole to put it in
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