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Oct 20, 2008 19:01:36 GMT
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Anybody know what could be causing this problem... this afternoon I picked up the V62 form for the camper and when I tried to drive away the car just revved, ok I thought, I will stop and try reverse, got reverse now so I will try drive again, ok got drive perfect  5 minutes down the road I lost drive again  thankfully a former panda selecta owner helped push my car off the road (what are the chances of that happening), along with 2 schoolboys (i say boys, but they were about both about 6 foot tall). anyway called my dad out then the AA, taken to BMR garage where they topped up the ATF (£20 for a litre I should add  ), and they checked that the gearlever is moving with the lever on the gearbox (it is), so now the interesting thing - it SOMETIMES drives perfectly and other times it just revs, and if it just revs when you pump the gas pedal it goes  Any ideas anybody as I am completely stumped. by the way, here is the piece of ass ;D  |
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1939 Francis Barnett Powerbike
1971 Honda C90
1992 Mitsubishi Lancer 1.5 GLX
1993 Fiat Panda Selecta
2003 Vauxhall Combo 1.7DI van
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Oct 20, 2008 19:27:38 GMT
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brake band worn out? shifter cable stretched? blocked oil feed (usually a gauze filter in autobox sump pan). maybe change the oil and clean the gauze, it might be some congealed crud in the actuator for the band. I'm certainly no expert in autoboxes, so beware my advice! just a few suggestions and a bump. |
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Oct 20, 2008 20:31:35 GMT
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if its ok in reverse sounds like the cable needs a new one or adjust
sounds like its bunging you in neutral
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2001 HONDA CT110 (NOT RCV)
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Oct 20, 2008 20:36:56 GMT
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Aren't those Selecta transmissions CVT rather than conventional automatic??
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Oct 20, 2008 21:14:18 GMT
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Aren't those Selecta transmissions CVT rather than conventional automatic?? Aye, they are Electronic Continously Variable Transmissions, and from what i have read it could be the fuse (fingers crossed), the powder clutch (hope not), or something else (havent a clue ) |
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1939 Francis Barnett Powerbike
1971 Honda C90
1992 Mitsubishi Lancer 1.5 GLX
1993 Fiat Panda Selecta
2003 Vauxhall Combo 1.7DI van
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Oct 20, 2008 22:00:41 GMT
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Running a Punto Selecta (same CVT box as yours) as my daily for 6 years. It does some weird things sometimes, can't decide what ratio it should be in and often makes some worrying noises, but has never let me down and as these things have been happening for 6 years figured they're normal. Couple of things to check. 1. Theres a microswitch on the throttle pedal, that pulls the powder clutch in. I had one fail and you get no drive. 2. There is a fuse for the powder clutch I think (my manuals in the garage) can check tomorrow. 3. The throttle cable to the carb or (SPI on the punto) splits and also goes to the box somewhere - just check it's in one piece. Is the CVT warning light on ? The only time I've seen mine on was when the speedo sensor failed....still drove though, but it guessed what ratio to use  Intermittent faults are always a nightmare.....on an obscure, retro Italian car  |
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Oct 20, 2008 22:05:32 GMT
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Thanks for the advice mate, just need to get the car back off the garage now so can check it all out. By the way, the CVT light isnt on, as i don't have one  . If all else fails i will be looking at getting a manual box and converting it over. |
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1939 Francis Barnett Powerbike
1971 Honda C90
1992 Mitsubishi Lancer 1.5 GLX
1993 Fiat Panda Selecta
2003 Vauxhall Combo 1.7DI van
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1. Theres a microswitch on the throttle pedal, that pulls the powder clutch in. I had one fail and you get no drive. hoping its this, as it does seem to cure itself if i pump the accelerator |
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1939 Francis Barnett Powerbike
1971 Honda C90
1992 Mitsubishi Lancer 1.5 GLX
1993 Fiat Panda Selecta
2003 Vauxhall Combo 1.7DI van
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Oct 21, 2008 11:43:46 GMT
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little bit of an update - I have left it with the garage and he is going to have a look at it over the next couple of days and charge me £85 for the pleasure (2 hours of inspection = £35 per hour plus vat). I would have had a look at it myself but it all comes down to fitting it in around work and the fact that its too cold outside to be messing with the transmission. |
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1939 Francis Barnett Powerbike
1971 Honda C90
1992 Mitsubishi Lancer 1.5 GLX
1993 Fiat Panda Selecta
2003 Vauxhall Combo 1.7DI van
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Oct 30, 2008 16:13:17 GMT
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well there was no charge from the garage, but the problem is still there, plus there is oily boot prints all over the carpets, and the £2 in the ashtray has gone . Oh well, will be looking at this myself then. edit - Last update before going for a new powder clutch... 'Eleanor' the panda does kind of drive now, but when you pull up at a junction you have to keep your foot on the brake as its trying to drive over the junction into the path of the other cars , plus its sometimes very hard to get into other gears - pull up to a parking space, try to select reverse, and you need 2 hands to move the lever (thats if you can stop the car moving forward ). The symptoms above don't always happen, but thats only if the car has kangarooed (sp) a couple of times, then it revs, kicks, and drives away perfectly (until you get to another junction). Anyway, I have got until the 10th of November to have a look, then its getting a new powder clutch fitted by the auto gearbox expert that supposedly had a look at it. The clutch will be in the region of... £600 |
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1939 Francis Barnett Powerbike
1971 Honda C90
1992 Mitsubishi Lancer 1.5 GLX
1993 Fiat Panda Selecta
2003 Vauxhall Combo 1.7DI van
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Oct 30, 2008 16:26:57 GMT
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ouch.
low fluid can do this kind of trick in a regular auto. As can the wrong fluid. What type of ATF does it take?
Sadly it could also be a pump, servo, sprag or any of those things, and more
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Oct 30, 2008 16:35:42 GMT
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Oct 30, 2008 16:41:48 GMT
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ouch. low fluid can do this kind of trick in a regular auto. As can the wrong fluid. What type of ATF does it take? Sadly it could also be a pump, servo, sprag or any of those things, and more It takes dexron three. I will be looking all the components and fluid once I get over the flu, and when I can get some help (probably rope my dad into fixing it ) thanks for the vid mark, thats cheered me up a bit |
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1939 Francis Barnett Powerbike
1971 Honda C90
1992 Mitsubishi Lancer 1.5 GLX
1993 Fiat Panda Selecta
2003 Vauxhall Combo 1.7DI van
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Oct 30, 2008 21:01:16 GMT
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2001 HONDA CT110 (NOT RCV)
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Oct 30, 2008 21:06:28 GMT
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Sadly its a CVT automatic, so thats the sort of price I am looking at. The other option i have is to convert the car into a manual, but thats going to cost a bit too, unless i can rope in some of the RR'ers |
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1939 Francis Barnett Powerbike
1971 Honda C90
1992 Mitsubishi Lancer 1.5 GLX
1993 Fiat Panda Selecta
2003 Vauxhall Combo 1.7DI van
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jikovron
Part of things
mechanical chaos
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Oct 30, 2008 21:13:55 GMT
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yeah man get down to the scapper and around £100-130 quid later you have a: manual box and engine to go with it,,,,,,,,driveshafts,,,,,,hubs and struts,,,,,,mounts,,,,,,,pedal box and all the other bits and bobs to go with 600 quid what the hell ,,,,,,,,,,,if you convert it to manual you'll save most of that dosh for youre camper |
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Oct 30, 2008 21:43:08 GMT
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Keldine Autos Gearbox Repair Specialist
Wellington Rd, Dunston, Gateshead, Tyne and Wear NE11 9JJ
Tel: 0191 4606024
Classification: Gear Boxes
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2001 HONDA CT110 (NOT RCV)
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yeah man get down to the scapper and around £100-130 quid later you have a: manual box and engine to go with it,,,,,,,,driveshafts,,,,,,hubs and struts,,,,,,mounts,,,,,,,pedal box and all the other bits and bobs to go with Hmm, 1242cc conversion me thinks (would be uno turbo engine, but those are hard to find ). Then I have to find someone who is willing to fit all those bits cheaply (garage quoted £450-£500 for fitting manual bits ) First of all i will ring up where Hairnet said, and also have a look at the sensors etc, myself. Got to say, the manual conversion does sound like a good idea though, plus i have a bigger throttle body, and a better cam to go onto a 1242 punto engine ;D |
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1939 Francis Barnett Powerbike
1971 Honda C90
1992 Mitsubishi Lancer 1.5 GLX
1993 Fiat Panda Selecta
2003 Vauxhall Combo 1.7DI van
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berendd
Europe
why do I need 3 keys for one car?
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CVT rocks, go to a proper autobox specialist and get it fixed, nothing on the panda forums?
maybe one of the RRers will be able to help you out..
checked all the fuses btw, wouldn't be the first time someone dismatles the whole car to find out a fuse was blown...
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Oct 31, 2008 15:00:30 GMT
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Been looking around the punto forums, and it seems that there are 2 switches on the accelerator pedal that can become faulty. The tes is to remove the switches one at a time and have a little drive, if the car runs ok, then you just have to repair the broken switch |
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1939 Francis Barnett Powerbike
1971 Honda C90
1992 Mitsubishi Lancer 1.5 GLX
1993 Fiat Panda Selecta
2003 Vauxhall Combo 1.7DI van
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5 minutes down the road I lost drive again 
thankfully a former panda selecta owner helped push my car off the road (what are the chances of that happening), along with 2 schoolboys (i say boys, but they were about both about 6 foot tall).
), and they checked that the gearlever is moving with the lever on the gearbox (it is), so now the interesting thing - it SOMETIMES drives perfectly and other times it just revs, and if it just revs when you pump the gas pedal it goes 
. If all else fails i will be looking at getting a manual box and converting it over.
