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Sept 15, 2008 20:31:41 GMT
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Looked at a Series III at the wkend, apart from running like a wounded dog (which I'm not worried about) one thing was that looking at the front, the passenger side wing area was higher than the driver's side. Eyeing along the bumper, the gap sloped up so the l/h wing was about an inch higher. The bumper was even across the chassis so I'm wondering why the difference. Is that a fact of Landy-ness? Or could there be something exp£nsive amiss... If the chassis was twisted, the body work would still sit down on it, no? The thing has been off-roaded btw. Did also saw a nice Series II with a similar thing, but not quite so pronounced. And any recc's for a good Landy forum would be good, there's loads ... Thanks folks. Have a pic:
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sowen
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Sept 15, 2008 20:55:55 GMT
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Does the radiator panel sit level on the chassis and how bad is the chassis. If you look down each side does the rounded edge line up? What are the general panel gaps like?
The body on land rovers is not structural, so it will follow the lines of the chassis. That is why they have a split front screen, to allow for the chassis to flex. Slight differences upto about an inch are quite normal on these, it could be that the wings have been removed and refitted badly, or have had a hard knock in the past.
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Sept 15, 2008 21:09:26 GMT
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they do tend to "lean" as they age, its pretty normal in series landys, generally they lean to the driver's side IME.
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I have determined that my sole purpose in life is to serve as a bad example...
CURRENT vehicles - '84 Saab 900 turbo classic, '93 Nissan 200SX S13, 2021 Volvo V90 Inscription.
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Landy questionstimsands
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Sept 15, 2008 21:33:29 GMT
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yeah they tend to get a gangsta lean as they progress. easiest way to check for soundness of chassis is take a hammer and tap on it, if it rings like a bell, its good, if its a thuddy clunk, its full of rubbish and made of bean cans
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carnut1100
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Sept 15, 2008 22:25:26 GMT
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www.series123.comHave fun fixing the gearbox when it breaks! ( note I said "when, not "if"...)
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They won't be restoring Hyundais in 30 years!
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In the family, 1975 Volvo 245 1985 Volvo 360 GLT 1969 Ford Transit Mk1 1963 Humber Vogue Sports 1960 Morris Minor van
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Sept 15, 2008 22:57:21 GMT
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Many thanks all. It's not a lean as such, more like one wing sits differently to the other on top the chassis, the front panel seems to follow the general slight slope upwards. The chassis itself seems good, some patching on the rear x-member and front dumb-irons (?right word) but generally sound. It's cheap so I'm not expecting perfection or anything, just wondering about the level of nastiness... Thanks again folks.
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Landy questionstimsands
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Sept 15, 2008 23:35:01 GMT
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with landys, they r bullet proof so there will never be too nasty unless the chassis is totallt nailed.
and even then its pennies to get repair sections
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Sept 16, 2008 2:38:52 GMT
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also replacement galvanised/dipped chassis are available new and unused from army surplus suppliers and it can take as little as half a day to do a whole chassis swap. They are the easiest vehicles in the world to work on. Arm yourself with a haynes manual (wonder if this is the oldest out of production vehicle you can still readily obtain haynes manuals for in halfords LOL) industrial quantities of WD40, some gaffer tape and a small variety of tools and you should be able to rebuild the whole blooming thing LOL Have fun, we expect pics Kirsty
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Sept 16, 2008 8:13:33 GMT
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Cheers ... Didn't know there was army surplus chassis Kirsty, I've seen those posh new ones. Got gaffa and oils ready and a selection of BFH's dusted off and ready to go Basic plan is to get something to fettle, for me and my 9 yr old to have fun with. My other half learnt to drive in '48 and '52 Series 1's so she's keen too. Pics will follow if it comes home with us Thanks again folks. [ I know we all know this, but the depth and range of knowledge and quick responses on RR is something else... ]
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Sept 16, 2008 9:51:11 GMT
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Landies are just a natural progression from a meccano kit, just need a big AF socket set, some WD40 and a selection of hammers. I got mine when I was 16 (11 years ago), and everything that's ever broken I've fixed myself, so it can't be that hard
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Landy questionstimsands
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Sept 16, 2008 11:22:55 GMT
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m with whitbytom, got mine aged 16 and restored it myslef. before that dad bought a series 3 for 1000 and he said it is by far the best money he has ever spent. pure enjoyment factor beats everyhting else
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Sept 16, 2008 12:22:22 GMT
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get yourself some land rover owner/LRM/LRW magazines and check out the adverts. The army had so many series III's (they were still using them in Cyprus up until fairly recently) that they had a HUGE spares stockpile, of course now they are all swapped over onto Wolf landys they sell off their surplus parts to distributors, who in turn advertise in the mags. Ex military landys are a fantastic buy as you can garuntee they've been maintained to the highest standards on a regular basis. Yes they may have been bashed around a bit but they were repaired and ready to go again fairly quickly.
One of the adverts I remember had a photo of an enormous warehouse stacked high to the ceiling with row upon row of galvanised and dipped series III chassis, and IIRC they were under £300 (prices may have gone up in the last few years)
Kirsty
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Sept 16, 2008 13:49:52 GMT
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I'm currently helping to restore three Series 11A Landies in school and they're so easy to work on it's unbelievable. Drill out the rivets, undo the bolts etc etc
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sowen
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Sept 16, 2008 20:50:30 GMT
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Many thanks all. It's not a lean as such, more like one wing sits differently to the other on top the chassis, the front panel seems to follow the general slight slope upwards. The chassis itself seems good, some patching on the rear x-member and front dumb-irons (?right word) but generally sound. It's cheap so I'm not expecting perfection or anything, just wondering about the level of nastiness... Thanks again folks. Could be the radiator panel has rotted away at the bottom edge where it bolts to the chassis, easily fixed with a welder and piece of angle iron. I've got two series 3's myself, a good one I was given as a 15th birthday present to rebuild, which is now v8 powered, and another one that I'm building into a v8 off-road battlewagon. They're an excellent intro to old school motoring, easily fixed / bodged on any budget, with all parts still available brand new or secondhand, and parts off the latest generation still fit with little or no trouble. Have fun fixing the gearbox when it breaks! ( note I said "when, not "if"...) They still work even when broken, I had my layshaft bearing break up, drove another 300 - 400 miles with the layshaft rattling around, bashed a new bearing in and it still works fine!
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Sept 16, 2008 23:08:38 GMT
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Ta all. Mechanics not a worry, am used to old cars though more of a bike person, can weld a bit and fettle OK, and have proper paint gear etc. Mainly wanted to get some wise words on whether it might be something serious in the chassis dept or similar expensiveness, but it sounds do-able enough. I hope it's something me and the boy can do together and have proper fun with, he's keen despite his age (has helped me do stuff on bikes, and wielded his first spanner age 3 on a Mustang )
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Sept 17, 2008 11:18:50 GMT
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definitely the best ever beginners car to start on for him then, my landy was my first car aged 18 with zero previous mechanical knowledge, in the first week I rethreaded some of the bolt holes on the wheels, fixed the windscreen wiper motor, replaced the speedo cable and cleaned out the weber carb. Sense of achievement for an 18 year old girl who had never got her hands greasy before: HUGE She was SO easy to work on and so basic, they're cheap as chips to repair, spare parts are everywhere and a lot of things can be sorted with WD40 and gaffer tape I know you'll both have lots of fun Kirsty
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I have determined that my sole purpose in life is to serve as a bad example...
CURRENT vehicles - '84 Saab 900 turbo classic, '93 Nissan 200SX S13, 2021 Volvo V90 Inscription.
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Sept 17, 2008 12:59:09 GMT
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Thanks Kirsty . We'll definitely get us a Landy, whether it's this un or not remains to be seen. My other half's brothers rebuilt the 48 & 52 and that's a memory they treasure, hopefully m'boy will cop a bit of the same sort of thing ...
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