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Jun 10, 2008 18:10:08 GMT
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Right, collective help required here.. I've got the old granada hearse...  And I need to get it ready for RR08 but I've got a problem it just won't hold it's revs when in gear(its an auto) and stalls pretty much the moment I try and hold it on the brake. IN neutral it's fine, idles well if not a little high(did dabble with the cable to keep the revs artificially high when trying to get it back from Ireland last year.  I've checked the obvious stuff, timing, servo etc even changed the vacuum modulator in case there was a problem there. It's had fresh plugs(new leads wouldn't go amiss but there's no obvious tracking issues with them.It's running the pierburg carb, so I'm beginning to wonder if there's something with that, but again logic dictates it wouldn't run fine when not loaded against the gearbox. Which then leads me onto the other issue, the transmission did cook whilst in Ireland(in traffic near Dublin) is it possible that whilst it still drives fine there's been some damage caused which means the modulator isn't operating thus advancing the ultimately raising the revs when in gear. In a nutshell I'm stumped now, I want to get this sorted and ready for RR08 since there's a little welding needed for test then I can get on with the rotary cortina project or any new old tat that might take my fancy in between times Ideas gentlemen please! Many thanks for any suggestions |
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Jun 10, 2008 18:24:34 GMT
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drive with two feet! I used to in my auto capri, but that did have a cam that was far too lumpy for an auto ;D selct D, apply steering, stall. restart, hold about 1500rpm with left foot on brake, drop into D, back end goes bang  remove left foot from brake. seriously, can you turn the idle up a touch? maybe 100rpms more and it would be fine.  |
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Jun 10, 2008 19:18:19 GMT
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Sounds like a gearbox problem rather than an engine one to me. Try changing the fluid and see if that helps
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MR TIKI
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Jun 10, 2008 19:48:05 GMT
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 I had a simular problem with this 'bucket of bolts' nick-named THE TANK! 18 or so years back.if memory serves, it was something to do with break-bands? BTW that is one very cool car that you've got there. ;D |
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Last Edit: Jun 11, 2008 9:56:11 GMT by MR TIKI
Boldly driving faster than a tin worm can wiggle.
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Jun 10, 2008 21:16:37 GMT
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Kinda guessed this might be the prognosis,did change fluid and filters earlier and was hoping not to have to rave the box out this year and then fit later cosworth 24v and 4 spd auto over next winter.
So, next question, anyone got a known good C3 auto/torque convertor going cheap?
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2014 - Audi A6 Avant 3.0Tdi Quattro
1958 - Chevrolet Apache Panel Truck
1959 - Plymouth Custom Suburban
1952 - Chevrolet 2dr Hardtop
1985 - Ford Econoline E350 Quadravan
2009 - Ovlov V70 2.5T
1970 - Cortina Mk2 Estate
2007 - Fiat Ducato LWB 120Multijet
2014 - Honda Civic 2.2 CTDi ES
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Being looking around and am having a change of thought process with this, rather than bodge in a s/h gearbox pending cosworth conversion perhaps I'm better off just buying a knackered Mk3 2.9(12v) auto and throwing the lot in.
Thinking with an element of logic, lovely though the 24v Cosworth lump is, it does attract a premium and the hearse just doesn't need that it's not a sports car it's a cruiser so the 12v should do fine and I should be able to pick up a complete good car for the price of a reman C3 trans.
So next question is, how easy would it be to swap over to the 2.9 efi and auto box from the Mk3, any comments appreciated
Cheers
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2014 - Audi A6 Avant 3.0Tdi Quattro
1958 - Chevrolet Apache Panel Truck
1959 - Plymouth Custom Suburban
1952 - Chevrolet 2dr Hardtop
1985 - Ford Econoline E350 Quadravan
2009 - Ovlov V70 2.5T
1970 - Cortina Mk2 Estate
2007 - Fiat Ducato LWB 120Multijet
2014 - Honda Civic 2.2 CTDi ES
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PPC mag did a guide on putting a Ford efi into a older Ford and there was less than half a dozen wires involved. Sorry I can't remember much more as it was a while ago and i've wibblepoo memory at the best of times, but i'll see if I can find it, if you decide to do that.
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Last Edit: Jun 11, 2008 8:24:48 GMT by paulmi16
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Does it have an idle switch over circuit /valve which advances the distibutor when in drive and idling? . If it has,i would put a light on the timing and cherck it in gear and in nuetral to see what the timing does .If it doesn't move ,theres a problem in the advance mechanism.
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Many years ago I changed my driving style to cope with rising fuel prices; I have now reached the stage where I am contemplating keeping my eyes shut in order to lower wind resistance.
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A mate of a mate had a similar problem - it was due to the torque converter being all sludged up.
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A mate of a mate had a similar problem - it was due to the torque converter being all sludged up. Sludged? with what do you know? .A trans will fail with just a peice of human hair in the valve body,so this sludging thing is very interesting. |
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Many years ago I changed my driving style to cope with rising fuel prices; I have now reached the stage where I am contemplating keeping my eyes shut in order to lower wind resistance.
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Being looking around and am having a change of thought process with this, rather than bodge in a s/h gearbox pending cosworth conversion perhaps I'm better off just buying a knackered Mk3 2.9(12v) auto and throwing the lot in. Thinking with an element of logic, lovely though the 24v Cosworth lump is, it does attract a premium and the hearse just doesn't need that it's not a sports car it's a cruiser so the 12v should do fine and I should be able to pick up a complete good car for the price of a reman C3 trans. So next question is, how easy would it be to swap over to the 2.9 efi and auto box from the Mk3, any comments appreciated Cheers granada scorpio engines and looms are pretty easy to swop over (not frogeye!!) as the engine loom is seperate from the cars loom unlike the sierra, if yours is injection already it will be nice and simple as its gonna have the fuel pump, wiring and pipes already in place, will just need a couple of wires to get the ECU going. |
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Volvo back as my main squeeze, more boost and some interior goodies on the way.
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A mate of a mate had a similar problem - it was due to the torque converter being all sludged up. Sludged? with what do you know? .A trans will fail with just a peice of human hair in the valve body,so this sludging thing is very interesting. old / cooked ATF. gone sticky and yuck. the converter was acutally bad enough to be proper out of ballance. Once cleaned out and refitted and fresh fluids the thing ran well again. |
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1937 Austin Street Rod - 1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1976 Rover V8 - 1994 Ford Fiesta
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Jun 11, 2008 16:52:40 GMT
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Sadly current set up is carburettor, so little bit more work to do swapping over to the EFi unit, but if I get a complete car then I'll have everything I need and can prep it 'in situ' I guess with regards wiring and just keeping what I need. Presumably pre'94 gearbox doesn't have electronic controls etc, I only ever drove manual versions of the Mk3? Does the 4sp later box fit the tunnel without mods? The other thing I thought about was speedo drive, on the manuals this was electronic not cable but sure I've seen a retro fit for old fords to convert to cable, although for later manual I'm guessing this would fit the autobox the same?  |
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2014 - Audi A6 Avant 3.0Tdi Quattro
1958 - Chevrolet Apache Panel Truck
1959 - Plymouth Custom Suburban
1952 - Chevrolet 2dr Hardtop
1985 - Ford Econoline E350 Quadravan
2009 - Ovlov V70 2.5T
1970 - Cortina Mk2 Estate
2007 - Fiat Ducato LWB 120Multijet
2014 - Honda Civic 2.2 CTDi ES
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remove left foot from brake.
