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I hate Mazda MX5s.
Yeah, I know everyone else seems to have a desire to perform indecent acts with every MX5 they see but what about the reality? I see a nasty, uncomfortable and badly designed little car that looks and feels like it came out of one of those countries less well known for cars and more well known for human rights abuses. If that's the best affordable 2 seater sportscar the world has to offer then I'm very glad I have a bike licence.
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"Jeremy Clarkson, a man we motor enthusiasts need on our side like Lewis Hamilton's F1 car needs a towing ball and a Sprite Musketeer" My motor
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I severly dislike Saxos, Novas & Corsas cos they're common as hell boyracer chav mobiles around here. I dislike Fiat Multiplas cos they're ugly as sin!! I dislike Imprezas as they are clit cars! without wantinbg to look like I'm picking on you here, this is eaxctly what I'm talking about. Who cares what the "Chavs" drive? Leave 'em to it. Have a little laugh at the worse examples. People have always chevved cars up. 20 years ago it was Mk1 / Mk2 Escorts... Why let what they do bother you. Fiat Multipla is an odd looking thing for sure. I don't own one and I don't think you do so why worry? etc etc. Why not just enjy whatyou do like? There seems to be a fascination of the Brits (and maybe all Hoomanz) to fixate on other people's cars, clothes, hairstyles, music, etc. and get all H8RZ on it rather than just chillin out and lettin' life roll. This I cannot fathom.
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1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1994 Ford Fiesta
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stuey
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ram thruster 4000
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I don't understand people that 'hate' cars based on other people that drive them. Surely it only matters what you're like if you owned the car. Thats purely because of percentages making it link together. Obvious and predictable Example: I'll happily put my neck out and say that 95% of modern BMW drivers drive like lobotomised, self-loving plebians thus when I get cut up by one/have to anchor because of one/have one 1.3 nanometres from my rear bumper I go "Typical! Bloody BMW" thus the car becomes linked with the driver and I now detest modern BMWs because what they represent to me is stupidity and misplaced self-adorartion and self-importance. And I don't care if thats wrong, its true I think its fair to say this that the BMW is now always linked with inconsiderate drivers and is seen as a beacon of bad driving and being one my self I regularly experience this attitude- point in case I was stationary on a large roundabout the other day (traffic lights on the roundabout) and this guy in a van pulls up beside me and then takes the time to point out my left handed love preferences in no uncertain terms) But why do I drive one? not cos I love my self but because it was cheap (I paid a grand for a fairly tidy e36) and I do alot of miles and want to be able to do it in comfort (I suffer from alot of back problems and a £1000 mongdeo aint so comfy!) so it was and obvious car for me to have. But much like so called "dangerous dogs" its the owners that cause them to be dangerous they arent born that way and bmws (or any car with a stigma attached) are not built with a w*nker pre-installed in the driving seat.
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Last Edit: Apr 24, 2008 7:28:56 GMT by stuey
1987 fiat 126-nearly actually done! 1972 beetle - lawn art 2003 z4 daily-new wheels a comin! 2008 R56 Mini cooper "mental Mickey"
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I think i have a mild irrational hate of some cars, only to redouble my steps a few hours later when I've actually thought about it. I used to have a real hate for bikers (sorry!) as a rather silly maneuvour on behalf of a middle aged biker placed him in the side of my corrado. however as I later found out he was only recently passed and I probably would have tried to pull out infront of me too plus I now kinda want a bike so I never give them any stick. Although this is a car based thread, and its slightly wandered away from car hating, to driver hating. I think bikers get some serious hate. But when you think about it they generally have a vehicle that is much better for zipping through traffic and capable of silly speeds, and quick overtaking, so why when it would be easier to just ease your car out of the way and let the biker get on his way with a little wave or a nod, instead of sitting by the white line like a dick? ALSO! chavs on bikes hack me off, as do chavs in cars AND people who don't acknowledge me when I've let them out, or past or anything!
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I severly dislike Saxos, Novas & Corsas cos they're common as hell boyracer chav mobiles around here. I dislike Fiat Multiplas cos they're ugly as sin!! I dislike Imprezas as they are clit cars! without wantinbg to look like I'm picking on you here, this is eaxctly what I'm talking about. Who cares what the "Chavs" drive? Leave 'em to it. Have a little laugh at the worse examples. People have always chevved cars up. 20 years ago it was Mk1 / Mk2 Escorts... Why let what they do bother you. Fiat Multipla is an odd looking thing for sure. I don't own one and I don't think you do so why worry? etc etc. Why not just enjy whatyou do like? There seems to be a fascination of the Brits (and maybe all Hoomanz) to fixate on other people's cars, clothes, hairstyles, music, etc. and get all H8RZ on it rather than just chillin out and lettin' life roll. This I cannot fathom. The voice of reason, saved me some typing. And to be fair, I own a mk1 Escort, and a Saxo VTS would totally spank it into the middle of next week on all counts except making me smile when I drive it. So if the Saxo makes someone else smile more than a mk1 Escort would, why should any of us have a problem with that? I don't hate cars, just idiots. It's the way forward.
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My fleet: Suzuki GSX-R600Y SRAD with bald, melted tyres A borrowed Mondeo
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I had a Citroen BX diesel, the worst car I have ever driven, poorly made, slam the boot & the back lights break, horrible drive, feels like a boat, but did I hate it? No, it wasn't a good car & it didn't suit me, but I can't hate it for that. On the Chav front, what really is the difference between people putting bodykits & huge exhausts on a corsa & someone boso'ing a nissan bluebird? or slamming a metro on banded steels? Nothing, just a different style, just live & let live.
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I have never hated a car, even after owning it and something going wrong I still think its a good car in a different way (unless its a ford focus, which I 'dislike' in all ways ). Also think about the cost of the car, chances are if you are on this forum, you didnt spend a massive amount buying the thing, so straight away you are better off then the people with their new £15000 motors, so who cares if the car squeaks, rattles, and leaks, at least you don't have depreciation ;D
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1993 Fiat Panda Selecta 2003 Vauxhall Combo 1.7DI van 2006 Mercedes Kompressor Evolution-S AMG SportCoupé
"You think you hate it now, wait til you drive it"
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Hirst
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This avatar is inaccurate, I've never shaved that closely
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You don't hear people say "Man I hate Ibstock Bricks, got to be the Travis Perkins ones for me. Those Ibstock ones are for w@nkers." Don't talk to me about sodding Ibstock! Good topic. I can't quite grasp why people get so opinionated about cars, especially ones they have never driven. There's a lot of cars I'm not fond of personally, but it's generally because I don't find them interesting, not because they fill me with bile. I can't say I hate new Astras, they just don't interest me. The thing about image is interesting - I must admit I couldn't care less what people think in general, but people expect a certain sort of driving from a certain sort of car and that can have a big impact on the experience. I reckon I drive about the same regardless of what motor I'm in, but other people drive totally differently depending on what I'm using. For example, if I use a small car people are considerably more likely to tailgate me regardless of what speed I'm doing. Whereas if I'm in the Galant, you don't get that at all (probably on account of the big dent in the rear bumper). Older cars are a mixed bag, as drivers are considerably more likely to wave you out of junctions, but try overtaking anyone and they'll often go mental. I wonder what it's like driving a new black BMW? I bet no one lets you out of junctions or into their lane on account of it.
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Theres some offensive stuff (even) in this thread TBH (not just about cars). I can see why the admin and mods 'Hate' these hate threads. Talk about going against the grain! Now there's particular cars i grew to really dislike, like a deathbed 5 door Uno my dad lent me to move some stuff when i moved house and my car had died. The old Uno cost me summat like £40 to temporary insure, and coughed and spluttered all way there (only did the trip - cos i was determined) Breaking down next to gangs and young girls. ;D I'd lose confidence in having another now but i don't hate them, infact a metal grill Panda is very appealing. Now BMW sterotypes; to inclde crew cab lifestyle trucks Audis and some Mercs, TBH i do expect them to act like knob0rz and if they don't i'm pleasantly surplrised. But they are fantasic if agressive looking cars.
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it doesn't matter if it's a Morris Marina or a Toyota Celica - it's what you do with it that counts
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DutyFreeSaviour
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Apr 24, 2008 10:05:46 GMT
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The thing RR should show anyone here ( or visiting ) is that it really isn't the tin, it's what you do with it and who is in control.
Don't hate the player - hate the game...... we're brought up from day one to out compete, outshine, outstudy, outrun or outfight everyone and everything around us - it all comes back to the 'my *whatever* is better/cooler/more liked/faster etc... than yours.
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Back from the dead..... kind of
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Apr 24, 2008 10:38:48 GMT
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You don't hear people say "Man I hate Ibstock Bricks, got to be the Travis Perkins ones for me. Those Ibstock ones are for w@nkers." i should hope not, my dad works for Ibstock personally i think that the word "hate" has become trivialised in modern language, people use "i hate xyz" when what the really mean is "i don't particularily like xyz" it can also be a shortcut, i myself often say that i hate Fords, when actually it's at most a festering dislike of them.. apart from mk5 Escorts i really do hate them and want to see them all vapourised..
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Apr 24, 2008 10:55:56 GMT
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it doesn't matter if it's a Morris Marina or a Toyota Celica - it's what you do with it that counts
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Apr 24, 2008 12:08:19 GMT
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heh, 18months stuck driving a horrible nasty powder blue 1.3L mk5 escort.. it didn't have a single redeeming feature to be liked a car has to have at least one qualiity, depending on what it does that could be economy, reliability, durabillity, ability, speed, handling, looks, comfort, security, etc.. that escort was slow, ugly, noisy unreliable, uneconomical and insisted on breaking down every week it's poisoned me against fords so badly that i could quite happily set fire to the most cherry example of a cosworth you could find and dance happily around it's grave
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Apr 24, 2008 12:17:48 GMT
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Mk5 Escorts are pretty grim, especially in boggo-spec. I had a boggo diesel with no power steering or turbo, and it was miserable to drive and miserable to sit in. Thankfully it died of a coolant hose popping off/head gasket failure ragging the arse off it up a steep hill.
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Last Edit: Apr 24, 2008 12:18:20 GMT by milfordcubicle
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bigrod
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Apr 24, 2008 12:32:43 GMT
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I think hating or at least disliking a make or model of car has a lot to do with the generalised demographic of the people that drive them. I for instance actually have a physical reaction whenever I see a Micra at close quarters, (especially if it's dawdling down the middle lane of a motorway being 'driven' by a giffer!). Basically owning a Micra, literaly tells me that you know nothing about cars or how to drive them and are not remotely interested in anything under the cute shiny bodywork. Of course that's quite possibly not true, but in my experience, that's what the car stands for and being an enthusiast, I can't understand why someone can't be interested in their chosen mode of transport. As a qualification, (or not!), we've had two Micras in our household in the past for reasons I won't go into and if I'm honest, I couldn't fault them at all! (Except it was entertaining getting the 'rubberband-omatic' to go anything over 65!!). Both perfectly reliable, both passed their respective MOTs without even so much as an advisory and the only thing that ever broke was one of the rear brake cylinders. Still shudder at the sight of them though. Go figure! The other thing that's put me off cars in the past was being given no choice but drive them. I once had to give up my lovely Cortina Crusader estate for an Escort 1.6L estate and I hated that. Really left a sour taste in my mouth and I'm reminded of it every time I see one. That's not to say that they don't suit other people though.
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Last Edit: Apr 24, 2008 12:35:49 GMT by bigrod
If I have to explain, you won't understand. Maximum signature image height = 80 pixels
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Apr 24, 2008 12:36:08 GMT
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the thing that really enstilled the hatred was that mine was in that horrible cockroach stage.. everything was breaking on it but with just enough space in between that you end up fixing it because it's only £xx rather than just saying "screw it scrappy time and i'm off down the auctions" and that horrible engine.. the 1300cvh i think it was? how can something so small and so slow be that uneconomical
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Apr 24, 2008 12:38:18 GMT
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Mk5 Escorts are pretty grim, especially in boggo-spec. I had a boggo diesel with no power steering or turbo, and it was miserable to drive and miserable to sit in. Thankfully it died of a coolant hose popping off/head gasket failure ragging the ar se off it up a steep hill. Here's an excellent idea, maybe next time you have a car you hate, just sell it and buy one you like better? Just a thought, like. That's what I did with my mk6 Escort 1.8i Ghia. Seems many people don't even think of this solution! ;D
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My fleet: Suzuki GSX-R600Y SRAD with bald, melted tyres A borrowed Mondeo
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Apr 24, 2008 12:46:04 GMT
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Whats wrong with hating a car for no rational reason?
Do any of you LOVE a car? Maybe one thats, dare i say it, not that good?
Can you rationalise the love for that car?
Its just the other side of the coin thats all.
Although, as mentioned, there not the words we should really be using, like and dislike would be closer to the point but whatever.
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I have a friend who drives a 5 year old diesel Vectra which he hates with a passion because it's boring, plasticky and has uncomfortable seats. His problem is that on all other counts it's the best car he's ever owned, tirelessly reliable, spacious, economical to run and an ever willing tow car.
I keep telling him to get a bike.
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"Jeremy Clarkson, a man we motor enthusiasts need on our side like Lewis Hamilton's F1 car needs a towing ball and a Sprite Musketeer" My motor
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<prepares to be flamed> Vectras are actually VERY under-rated cars and a damned site better than some people will say, ditto Mk4 Astras which are fantastic cars. I have had many Vecs (including some with huge mileages) and they are great things for what they are. Apologies for the non-retro content of my post, have a picture on me...
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Corsa Apology Champion 2014.
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