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Feb 16, 2008 12:09:40 GMT
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If I was closer, you could have my gas heater, it is new, and honestly, figure a way to get it to Osnabruck mate, and it is yours. Now call that courier mate of yours. Thanks for the very kind offer Grizz, but i have to keep up the englishman´s reputation over here for not giving in to bad weather and still wearing T shirt and shorts through the winter!!! ;D My neighbour is a professional Tennis player and when he pops back home every now from some exotic and normally warm part of the world, he always stops by and shakes his head when i´m outside laid underneath some old car in the middle of winter. I just tell him we english just don´t feel the cold and that he shouldn´t be such a wimp!! ;D |
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bstardchild
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Feb 16, 2008 13:09:14 GMT
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I can see where you´re coming from BC. The reason I drilled and tapped the alternator casing was to give me a bit more room when the beld stretches. I´m not sure how much they do stretch but I can still take up about 5mm on the new hole then I can swap over to the old one then i´ve got a bit more. The problem with the original tensioner is that it´s upper body is in the way of the belt and can´t get a straight run from the alternator pulley to the waterpump. I do have an old fashioned tensioner arm from the 2.8 which I can always fit if neccesary. It´s all a bit trail and error unfortunately but as it´s never been done before I can live with that.. The good thing here is, I can rely on you guys helping me out with all your experience if I do drop a bollöck! ;D Thanks for keeping an eye on me ;D I was also concerned about the amount of wrap on the pulleys esp the one that does all the driving work Those belts do stretch and it doesn't take much stretch before they slip I just didn't want you to have belt issues once it's all finished I've found the picture I was looking for of the set up of the monza but not the senator one - that has a wheel that increases the amount of wrap on the water pump and main pulley  I reckon you could probably mount an idler wheel above the tensioner to lift the belt run above it?? |
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bstardchild
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Feb 16, 2008 13:13:57 GMT
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Found it ;D  |
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Feb 16, 2008 16:10:20 GMT
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I understand now.
Your concerned that the belt doesn´t have enough contact area with the camshaft pulley (ie mine 90 degrees yours more like 200 degrees..if you get what i mean.)
I´ll have to go out with the measuring tape and see what i can do,
Cheers Ian, i hadn´t thought of that!
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bstardchild
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Feb 16, 2008 19:19:34 GMT
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I understand now. Your concerned that the belt doesn´t have enough contact area with the camshaft pulley (ie mine 90 degrees yours more like 200 degrees..if you get what I mean.) I´ll have to go out with the measuring tape and see what I can do, Cheers Ian, I hadn´t thought of that! Yeah that would give me concerns - The crankshaft pulley drives the belt and I guess with just a water pump and an alternator to drive the belt contact area could be reduced but you'd have to wind up the tension on the belt (that would make it stretch quicker and potentialy the added tension could also knock out the alternator/water pump bearings in a short time) The self tensioner units are marvelous things and they don't overload the bearings whilst maintaining a constant level of belt tension over the life of the belt (normally those multi V belts are good for 100K plus) You can get idler wheels for inside the belt (v grooved) or plain faced for the outside of the belt - to me it looks like you could use the redundant bracket which I assume was for the AC or Power steering pump and fix a idler wheel to lift the belt run above the tensioner unit??? You probably already know this but part of the part numbers of the multi V belts always indicates the lenth that always makes life handy when trying to source a belt of the right length I'll poke me nose out now - I know you will come up with an ace plan to improve on what you have now  |
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Feb 16, 2008 20:03:24 GMT
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Above comments from BC shows why this forum works so well.
Shared knowlege strengthens us all.
Go Dave..... watching you. Anyway, if you change your mind, you know whare it is.
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Feb 16, 2008 20:43:58 GMT
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I understand now. Your concerned that the belt doesn´t have enough contact area with the camshaft pulley (ie mine 90 degrees yours more like 200 degrees..if you get what I mean.) I´ll have to go out with the measuring tape and see what I can do, Cheers Ian, I hadn´t thought of that! Yeah that would give me concerns - The crankshaft pulley drives the belt and I guess with just a water pump and an alternator to drive the belt contact area could be reduced but you'd have to wind up the tension on the belt (that would make it stretch quicker and potentialy the added tension could also knock out the alternator/water pump bearings in a short time) The self tensioner units are marvelous things and they don't overload the bearings whilst maintaining a constant level of belt tension over the life of the belt (normally those multi V belts are good for 100K plus) You can get idler wheels for inside the belt (v grooved) or plain faced for the outside of the belt - to me it looks like you could use the redundant bracket which I assume was for the AC or Power steering pump and fix a idler wheel to lift the belt run above the tensioner unit??? You probably already know this but part of the part numbers of the multi V belts always indicates the lenth that always makes life handy when trying to source a belt of the right length I'll poke me nose out now - I know you will come up with an ace plan to improve on what you have now Had a play around with different locations of the tensioner earlier and think i´ll be able to get something sorted. Thanks again for your imput, much appreciated BC Above comments from BC shows why this forum works so well. Shared knowlege strengthens us all. Go Dave..... watching you. Anyway, if you change your mind, you know whare it is. I agree, it´s nice knowing that you´re not alone and that there are a lot of helpfull and knowledgeable people on here who are prepared to share their experience with you. Should have done it yesterday as it was below zero the whole day but finished off the exhaust this morning...  It fits better now and still leaves enough room for the handbrake cable..    One of the reasons why the engine swap is a tight fit is that i always fancied some decent seats up front. However the higher up the engine sits the less room i have as i practically sit on top of it. I´ve started mocking up the seating positon using the seats out of the Scorpio...  As they are electric, up-down, left-right, front--back & god knows what, the first job was to lose all this lot....  this saves me about 50mm in height. I´ll tack weld the supporting frame up tomorrow but i have this feeling that i´m still going to be sitting too high...more tomorrow! ;D |
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Feb 16, 2008 20:50:28 GMT
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Consider the fact that you are 5foot 18 inches tall Dave, and it becomes apparent why you sit tall .
Looking at the pic of me in the bus today, on my thread, I wonder how you even get yourself folded in there.
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Feb 16, 2008 21:53:38 GMT
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That exhaust is looking good,I bet that'll make a nice noise.
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Feb 16, 2008 22:16:47 GMT
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kart racing bucket with neoprene padding FTW ;D
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Feb 16, 2008 22:19:51 GMT
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I wanna hear the noise that makes the moment you start it!  |
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Consider the fact that you are 5foot 18 inches tall Dave, and it becomes apparent why you sit tall . Looking at the pic of me in the bus today, on my thread, I wonder how you even get yourself folded in there. Now you know why i´ve got a Capri too!  kart racing bucket with neoprene padding FTW ;D ;D ;D ;D That exhaust is looking good,I bet that'll make a nice noise. I really hope so too. When i took the Scorpio out for a blast on the Autobahn before i took it to bits i was really disapointed with the sound.............there was none! I don´t want it to be too loud but i think catless with only one box per side it should be good for a few smiles. This exhaust is only a mock up to see what it sounds like, when it passes the "smile test" i´ll get decent one made up professionally. I wanna hear the noise that makes the moment you start it! I´ll get one of my lads to make a small vid (as i haven´t got the foggiest how to) and get it up on here. The big day is getting closer...! ;D |
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Feb 17, 2008 18:12:34 GMT
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Wanted to have the drivers seat in by end of play today to check to see whether i fit in or not. Started by making up a frame that will double up as support for yours truly and do as a bulhead to separate off the engine room.  Bit of cardboard always speeds things up a bit....  Like using up old stuff rather than buying new, this cutoff used to be in Grizz´s rear door (now he has a window this shape instead)...  The red bit will be hinged so that i can reach the dipstick to check the oil, the rest will be screwed rather than welded so that i can remove it all to get at the engine if necessary. With the bottom of the seat modified with two new hinges....  the other half are welded to the new bulkhead frame...  This is basically a copy of the original seating brackets..you have to tip the seat forward and can then pull the seat out of the cab. I still have to make a bracket at the rear to hold the seat down but just tried it out and it works.  More importantly, i fit in..my head is about 10mm away from the headlining so i´m really chuffed!! ;D ;D ;D ;D I can now start thinking about fitting some front seatbelts and building the engine cover. Thanks for looking in..... |
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Feb 17, 2008 18:42:53 GMT
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Davey boy....... your fabbing skills rock man !!
Looks so simple and then we know it is not.
By the way, I want to close the rear window in my door now, need more privacy, can I have the steel back mister ??
Was looking forward to you adding a perspex turret to the car a bit like Ed Roth used to .
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Feb 17, 2008 18:51:21 GMT
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Looks like you´ll have to buy some gay curtains for the back mate!!
On The GT 40 they had the Guerney Bubble because he couldn´t fit in so it´d be inkeeping with tradition...
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Feb 17, 2008 20:21:06 GMT
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oldbus will you please slow down with this resto / engine work, you are embarrasing us lesser mortals with the speed you are getting this done ;D
only joking - this is truly inspriational stuff, loving the updates - keep 'em coming!
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Feb 18, 2008 19:27:54 GMT
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oldbus will you please slow down with this resto / engine work, you are embarrasing us lesser mortals with the speed you are getting this done ;D only joking - this is truly inspriational stuff, loving the updates - keep 'em coming! Sorry Kerry, got to make the most of it while the misses isn´t moaning! Before i carry on with the engine cowling i needed to sort out something with the airfilter...  I thought i´d have to go out and buy loads of adapters and stuff to get it in but managed to get away with the cheap version... Cut up the airfilter box to use the bracket for the airflowmeter thingy...  As i don´t have any room for it i did the same with the resonator...  and used the original rubber hoses and jubilee clips to fix it all together...    made up a small bracket and welded it to the drivers seat support i made yesterday, and it fits in quite nicely.  Need to tidy it all up a bit but it´s in... Hope it all works! Cheers, Dave |
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Feb 18, 2008 19:54:45 GMT
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great work again; BTW if you need any pulleys/tensioners to play with, i can collect some used ones at work, probably there is something you could use (probably the Avantime one which is about 300 Euros ;D )
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Feb 18, 2008 21:25:57 GMT
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Thanks Jürgen,
still playing around with different ideas. Thanks for your offer mate, i might take you up on that!! ;D
How´s your van getting on mate, finished?
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bstardchild
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Feb 18, 2008 22:07:51 GMT
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made up a small bracket and welded it to the drivers seat support I made yesterday, and it fits in quite nicely. Need to tidy it all up a bit but it´s in... Hope it all works! Cheers, Dave Don't drive in the rain or through a ford (ooops) not many engines like running with soggy K&N's ;D Just joking I'm sure you plan to shroud the filter to keep the wet off it and allow it to draw cool air away from the radiator warmth |
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