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Aug 11, 2019 22:11:42 GMT
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Bumhats. Just been at the NSRA Supernats for the weekend but car has not got through the weekend unscathed. Nothing major but more work to do Will post more tomo when camera is charged & a bit less tired.
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brc76
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Aug 11, 2019 23:27:37 GMT
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Oh dear. Bad? Or just annoying?
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Bit of both. Caught the front on the ground in the campsite so its split all the paint on the bottom of the front spoiler - so a fairly major job of repairs there. Just as I got home it smelt of petrol, parked on drive and them moved it into garage - big wet puddle of fuel on floor and it was pouring out of the side of the tank. Managed to undo the fuel hose & run fuel pump to empty tank into the Mondeo - garage stinks of petrol now Pulled tank last night & there is a 100mm fracture down the weld, welder had only 'fused' the panels together so very little penetration. Will ask work if they will re-weld it, I cleaned the tank & popped a flame in it last night to burn off vapours and with the big acces holes in it it will not explode - but they may refuse to do it anyway.
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eurogranada
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Aug 12, 2019 10:13:39 GMT
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Oh dear! That's not a good way to enjoy an event...
Sorry to hear of your misfortune. Though I'm sure you'll soon have it all back to perfect.
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jamesd1972
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Aug 12, 2019 10:22:10 GMT
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Am I right in remembering that you can steam a fuel tank prior to welding as it warms it up as well so its considered extra safe ? At least you got home but small consolation. James
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Aug 12, 2019 11:55:46 GMT
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There are several ways, fill with water, or purge with welding gas are the two main ones.
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glenanderson
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Aug 12, 2019 12:14:59 GMT
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There are several ways, fill with water, or purge with welding gas are the two main ones. Back in the dim and distant past I was taught to run a hose from a running car’s exhaust into the tank*. I imagine 21st century H&S would have a fit at the very idea. * As well as doing it on the other side of the yard from the workshop, with nobody standing idly by.
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My worst worry about dying is my wife selling my stuff for what I told her it cost...
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Aug 12, 2019 14:36:24 GMT
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Jeez, sorry to hear that Blackpaps. I havent been checking in on RR much lately so I missed all this. Hope you get it sorted, and top marks in the meantime for facing adversity and still managing to conjure up the phrase "bumhats" in the midst of it (It made me laugh anyway )
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Aug 12, 2019 14:55:13 GMT
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thank goodness you got home ok , and that it was not a body off job to get the tank out .good luck with the welding
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Aug 12, 2019 15:24:30 GMT
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Unlucky but lucky with the fuel tank. As for the other damage, at least it proves it is getting used, and rightly so.
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Aug 12, 2019 21:45:13 GMT
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Yeah, fuel tank could have been a lot more inconvenient or dangerous. Tank was out in less than 20 mins, I designed stuff for easy access It's been in the car all day and I just pulled it out and it barely smells of fuel, so most likely safe to weld. Shows the power of epoxy primer, fuel soon got under the metallic and damaged the clearcoat but it has not affected the primer at all. (rust stuff is the media blasting compound - it's still falling out of god knows where!!) close up shows the split in the weld; And the damage to the front of the car - not too easy to see but there are about 12 splits in it
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Aug 12, 2019 21:56:04 GMT
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Is the damage those parallel 'vertical' black hairlines? Hard to know on my phone if they are cracks or reflections off the ceiling.
If cracks though that's probably quite a job to repair versus one long horizontal crack, but maybe easier to retain the shape I imagine as the area seems to have mostly returned to normal shape albeit with surface cracks.
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Last Edit: Aug 12, 2019 21:56:41 GMT by Deleted
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Aug 12, 2019 22:30:43 GMT
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Yes, all the lines are cracks.
They will need to be ground out with a dremel and new gelcoat put in. I'll need to inspect the rear to see if there is any structural damage but I'm hoping its just stressed gelcoat.
Thats the easy bit, blowing in the black paint invisibly will be a bit trickier.
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stealthstylz
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Aug 12, 2019 23:15:28 GMT
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What about getting the extension vinyl wrapped? It looks fairly susceptible to impact damage and the wrap would mean it's not a curse word load of work if you catch it on something again.
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What about getting the extension vinyl wrapped? It looks fairly susceptible to impact damage and the wrap would mean it's not a curse word load of work if you catch it on something again. I was thinking the same. Its inevitable it will be repeated (you kids with your slammed cars *tuts*). But I also know Blackpaps is something of a perfectionist so its pointless making suggestions like this. Sticky back plastic isn't going to be the answer here. A telescopicly raising front might be though. Just click a button and zzzzzzzzzzrrrrrrrr up it comes, like a dumper truck bucket.
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Aug 13, 2019 12:10:37 GMT
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The splitter is plywood and is a disposable item.
QM is correct, only 100% shiny paint will do.
Ground clearance is 6" so not particularly low but there were some dips in the grounds which we all tried to avoid but I must have caught one somewhere.
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Aug 13, 2019 12:39:12 GMT
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I guess the problem with the fuel tank is how good is the rest of it? it looks like he has cleaned the weld back to a perfect finish and taken most of the strength with it, I often wonder how much strength is left when welds are ground back like this.
It might be worth pressurising it to something like 1 bar and tapping around all the welds with a mallet to see if you can start any more cracks before you but it back in.
Most production cars mount the lip on weak clips deliberately so they pull off without damaging the bumper, is that something you could consider?
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Aug 13, 2019 14:50:48 GMT
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Mark
Do you think the front lip is bowing from the air pressure that's put on it from driving or is the something out of balance causing a vibration that is stressing the panel?
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Aug 13, 2019 16:57:18 GMT
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Mark Do you think the front lip is bowing from the air pressure that's put on it from driving or is the something out of balance causing a vibration that is stressing the panel? I think it's more that he hit a mole hill or hole on a field and beached the front.
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