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1991 'Galileo' (Lotus Carlton) - 2006 to 2019

bstardchild Club Retro Rides Member Posts: 14,975 Club RR Member Number: 71	1991 'Galileo' (Lotus Carlton) - 2006 to 2019 bstardchild @bstardchild Club Retro Rides Member 71
	Oct 21, 2013 23:14:23 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Oct 21, 2013 22:14:56 GMT boostwagon said: love that car, had the normal Carlton years ago but it was the "poor mans" version, the 3000gsi. Exactly the same places where the rust hides though. My arches were further gone, held together by plastic and flex underseal I've had a couple of the GSi3000's and about a dozen Senators - If it's raining I'd take either a GSI or Senator over the LC if I wanted to get somewhere quickly so much more forgiving and easier to catch when the back starts moving around Oct 21, 2013 22:14:56 GMT boostwagon said: Will be well worth restoring, not many left . Keep it up Well I'm playing catch up in this thread but unfortunately it's still not finished - mainly cos 1. I'm sulking about not getting it finished and 2. I stopped working on a Mini to get the LC done - failed and now the Mini needs to get finished so I can get my garage back for the winter


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bstardchild Club Retro Rides Member Posts: 14,975 Club RR Member Number: 71	1991 'Galileo' (Lotus Carlton) - 2006 to 2019 bstardchild @bstardchild Club Retro Rides Member 71
	Oct 21, 2013 23:17:35 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Off to London today (pre planned same weekend every year) so I'm not allowed to work on the car while Mrs BC (Lisa) has a lie in.......... So instead I loaded the dishwasher and put it on a cycle He he he Unfortunately she got up earlier than expected............ Lisa "I'm sure I loaded those plates in the diswasher last night but you've removed them and washed them" Me "well we are out today and I had to wash up my breakfast stuff" Lisa " couldn't you have put that in the diswasher too?" Me "I could but it had other stuff in it" Lisa then looks in the dishwasher and wanders off "muttering bloody car parts" Went well all things considered - well better than when I used the oven to stove enamel a motorcycle cyl head - it proper stunk for weeks..... They came out way better than they went in Anyway while I was still waiting for her to get ready....... Plan A was make a sill repair section - my work folding machine can't put a really tight double bend on the steel for the outer sill Plan B search round the UK for new outer sill......... NLS - bums and tits Plan C was a spares car locally and pinch a section of good sill - toasted the entire length so that was out Plan D www.ebay.co.uk/itm/321177290284?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649 www.ebay.co.uk/itm/111123650308?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649 Working out which side I needed was a bit beyond my German capabilities so I bought both sides - after all the other side might need a patch or two


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bstardchild Club Retro Rides Member Posts: 14,975 Club RR Member Number: 71	1991 'Galileo' (Lotus Carlton) - 2006 to 2019 bstardchild @bstardchild Club Retro Rides Member 71
	Oct 21, 2013 23:23:21 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	I must not poke crusty bits I must not poke crusty bits I must not poke crusty bits I must not poke crusty bits I must not poke crusty bits I must not poke crusty bits I must not poke crusty bits I must not poke crusty bits I must not poke crusty bits I must not poke crusty bits I must not poke crusty bits I must not poke crusty bits I poked.................... curse word My day in pictures I waxoiled the chassis rail and then noticed a bit of waxoil oozing out of a scabby bit on the chassis rail - well I couldn't leave it like that!!! I'd hit it hard with a zip wheel when I was cleaning up the underside before painting and underseal and it didn't turn to dust but it obviously wasn't as sound as I thought Chop chop Glad I did - had to go a fair way over till I got to good steel Grind grind - shiney steel I'd had me cornflakes so the box came in handy - make a card template Transfer to 1.5 mm steel Cut, sand, hammer and splash a bit of weld thro primer on it Same with the chassis rail that remained Had a few hard drive failures over the years - recently liberated a few magnets out of the dead ones - make great fixings for butt welding - even better when you can find more than one of them - bloody mini in the garage seems to have eaten them all Don't try to weld near one does weird sh!t to the arc!! I know it looks a bit "gappy" but with multiple curves I find it easier to weld it in where it touches and then go round beating it into the shape that closes up the gaps - works well with chassis sections - not so well with bodywork!!! Yes it did catch fire - but I was ready for it - I knew that the wax oil would flame up quite nicely First piece in Grind it back Cornflake box and scissors I have plenty so knock the next bit up (holes are for a few puddle welds - spot welds with a MIG) My Portamig was appreciating the break as it's not been on power 5 out of 12 for a while - minis don't like anything more than 15 amps Splash a bit of weld thro on it Hit it with the sparkly stick Upside down welding - yeah that's my strong point - NOT Grind it back (just the weld so as not to thin the metal) Bit of Red (Pink) Oxide - I remembered to drill a new drain hole Am I happy with that...... Well a blind man on a galloping horse would be so Slap some chassis black on it then There I did it I posted pics of my not so invisible repair and "functional" welding - who'd have thunk it!!! Subframe can go back up tommorrow Following day still with burns from upside down welding so I thought I'd do some other stuff which had to be done Sneaked out while Lisa was in the bath to finish painting the Diff........ Sorry No pics but it's black and pumpkin shaped - shouldn't be too hard to visualise


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bstardchild Club Retro Rides Member Posts: 14,975 Club RR Member Number: 71	1991 'Galileo' (Lotus Carlton) - 2006 to 2019 bstardchild @bstardchild Club Retro Rides Member 71
	Oct 21, 2013 23:23:47 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Anyway Pics and all that............... OK so I had a weekend welding Repairs to the rear quarter (slapped some primer on the bare metal and welds to stop the fresh metal rusting – still needs a proper grind back etc) Sill section replaced (no pictures of the rebuilt middle sill as I was cracking on and the camera batteries died so needed recharging) It all needs grinding back as it was too late to grind outside on Sunday evening! Still a little localised repair to do – be we know how they quickly turn into big sections.... The passenger Sill Cover/skirt fought me just like the bloody drivers side did but I finally got it removed..... So I get to see the state of the other side – good job I bought both sides really even if I am only going to use them as repair sections I’m pretty doubtful that I’m gonna hit my deadline without some time off work.......


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bstardchild Club Retro Rides Member Posts: 14,975 Club RR Member Number: 71	1991 'Galileo' (Lotus Carlton) - 2006 to 2019 bstardchild @bstardchild Club Retro Rides Member 71
	Oct 21, 2013 23:26:22 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Can't grind or weld in the late evening so I had to settle for some spannering OK it's not all together yet but it's in............ So I did a few other nice things Made a new air pump tie rod Picked up the new SS plates for the side skirts And I re-booted the Tie Bar at the Ball joint end on both of them because they weren't too clever condition wise And I had a chat with my local Vauxhall parts manager Andy who kindly dropped of some parts (I live on way home so he always delivers parts (be rude not to at least provide tea and a chat) Still a lot of stuff to do before Thursday!!!


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bstardchild Club Retro Rides Member Posts: 14,975 Club RR Member Number: 71	1991 'Galileo' (Lotus Carlton) - 2006 to 2019 bstardchild @bstardchild Club Retro Rides Member 71
	Oct 21, 2013 23:28:33 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Well the chances of getting the car ready are now slim to none....... - Hey ho always new it was a tall order.... Finished the grinding on the Drivers side Stitched a new bit in the hole further up (I never realised that the outer sill profile changes along it's length so my large section of front sill is now in two pieces.....) And I got cracking at the passenger side - typically it needed a middle sill repair Can get that finished this afternoon and I have templates for the driver and passenger side door shuts made but with all the other things I need to do I think the b'stard car has beaten me...........


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bstardchild Club Retro Rides Member Posts: 14,975 Club RR Member Number: 71	1991 'Galileo' (Lotus Carlton) - 2006 to 2019 bstardchild @bstardchild Club Retro Rides Member 71
	Oct 21, 2013 23:34:33 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	So I didn't get to take it to RRG2013 And that's pretty much still how it is while I get back to finishing the Mini Ended up in my garage a few years ago for two patches on the boot floor and a d/s skin sill So far it's had New inner and outer sills both sides New floors pans New boot floor and rear seat base New rear wheel arches both sides New front wings both sides New scuttle New rear valance Repair panel s below the rear lights left right and middle New parcel shelf New bonnet New bulkhead both sides Loads and loads of brackets and repair sections And to top it all off I was actually daft enough to agree to put new roof on it becuase he bought a new headlining for a non sunroof car.......... As you will probably guess I never want to see another mini ever again..... I reckon about two weeks of work left then LC gets a space in the garage and I'll have a couple of weeks on it to finish it off


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DMS Part of things Posts: 57	1991 'Galileo' (Lotus Carlton) - 2006 to 2019 DMS @dms
	Oct 22, 2013 6:43:25 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Nice car and nice work there.


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Clement Europe ambitious but rubbish Posts: 2,095	1991 'Galileo' (Lotus Carlton) - 2006 to 2019 Clement @froggyclement
	Oct 22, 2013 16:14:37 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Wow, thread bookmarked! I hadn't seen it before, the car's a gem
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bigperm Posted a lot Posts: 1,014	1991 'Galileo' (Lotus Carlton) - 2006 to 2019 bigperm @bigperm
	Oct 22, 2013 19:02:41 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Good work Ian !!, I never even knew you had it, best of luck mate ....
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duncanmartin Club Retro Rides Member Out of retro ownership Posts: 1,320 Club RR Member Number: 70	1991 'Galileo' (Lotus Carlton) - 2006 to 2019 duncanmartin @duncanmartin Club Retro Rides Member 70
	Oct 22, 2013 19:50:34 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	What a car! Great to see it being worked on as well, rather than just being a shiny cheque book car.
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mk2polobloke Part of things Posts: 801	1991 'Galileo' (Lotus Carlton) - 2006 to 2019 mk2polobloke @mk2polobloke
	Oct 22, 2013 21:54:07 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Hadn't seen this before, so I just read the entire thread. Wonderful car and great to see one being restored and improved by an enthusiast owner. Great work bc, keep at it mate.


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Steve Posted a lot Making progress in small, easy to handle chunks of awesome Posts: 2,038	1991 'Galileo' (Lotus Carlton) - 2006 to 2019 Steve @sleeperviva
	Oct 22, 2013 22:00:45 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Now I understand........lol Nice work chap Coming along nicely after such a long break, ready for RRG2014 yea?
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bstardchild Club Retro Rides Member Posts: 14,975 Club RR Member Number: 71	1991 'Galileo' (Lotus Carlton) - 2006 to 2019 bstardchild @bstardchild Club Retro Rides Member 71
	Oct 22, 2013 22:11:13 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Oct 22, 2013 22:00:45 GMT Steve said: Now I understand........lol No you don't Steve - you really don't - you said 70's GM products - This is 90's (Unless of course you recognise my welding is at best functional but shabby) My next welding thread comntaining 70's GM material is already on here - it's also been a bit of a long project gestation - longer than the BBS Split rims It's also very very buried at the outer edges of readers rides as I've done nothing with it for a long time but it's times a coming Oct 22, 2013 22:00:45 GMT Steve said: Nice work chap Coming along nicely after such a long break, ready for RRG2014 yea? Le Mans 2014 for sure RRG2014 - kinda hoping I'll not own it by then TBH but we'll see I've had it at least 13 years whats another year or two


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Brigsy Part of things Posts: 617	1991 'Galileo' (Lotus Carlton) - 2006 to 2019 Brigsy @brigsy
	Oct 24, 2013 19:58:59 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Love lotus carltons. Good to see it getting the work done.
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darrenh Posted hell of a lot Posts: 6,656	1991 'Galileo' (Lotus Carlton) - 2006 to 2019 darrenh @darrenh
	Oct 25, 2013 10:19:42 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Oct 21, 2013 21:47:00 GMT bstardchild said: Poor opel design married to Lotus plasma cut bodywork mods with enough rust prevention to hold the tinworm back till the corrosion warranty expires i like in the parts manual where they call them body or stone protection, yet base models without these additions last 3 times as long.
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bstardchild Club Retro Rides Member Posts: 14,975 Club RR Member Number: 71	1991 'Galileo' (Lotus Carlton) - 2006 to 2019 bstardchild @bstardchild Club Retro Rides Member 71
	Oct 25, 2013 11:37:32 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Oct 25, 2013 10:19:42 GMT darrenh said: Oct 21, 2013 21:47:00 GMT bstardchild said: Poor opel design married to Lotus plasma cut bodywork mods with enough rust prevention to hold the tinworm back till the corrosion warranty expires i like in the parts manual where they call them body or stone protection, yet base models without these additions last 3 times as long. Indeed they do hence why base model carltons with rust free doors are frequently broken for parts


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yoeddynz Posted a lot Posts: 3,332	1991 'Galileo' (Lotus Carlton) - 2006 to 2019 yoeddynz @yoeddynz
	Oct 25, 2013 22:27:09 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Sweet- I remember you telling me all about this when you drove me to shelsy Welsh last year. Quite excited that you're getting it back on the road. I'll be over again next year and will need a car to borrow. This will be ideal! I promise to return it with a full tank. :-)
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bstardchild Club Retro Rides Member Posts: 14,975 Club RR Member Number: 71	1991 'Galileo' (Lotus Carlton) - 2006 to 2019 bstardchild @bstardchild Club Retro Rides Member 71
	Oct 26, 2013 8:08:44 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Oct 25, 2013 22:27:09 GMT yoeddynz said: Sweet- I remember you telling me all about this when you drove me to shelsy Welsh last year. Quite excited that you're getting it back on the road. I'll be over again next year and will need a car to borrow. This will be ideal! I promise to return it with a full tank. :-) Great plan - one small downside when you are having fun with this car the fuel consumption is horrific


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yoeddynz Posted a lot Posts: 3,332	1991 'Galileo' (Lotus Carlton) - 2006 to 2019 yoeddynz @yoeddynz
	Oct 26, 2013 10:15:42 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	oh I promise not drive it fast. I wont even take it beyond 1500rpm... I'll just pootle about in it. Then you can borrow my Viva when you visit us in NZ :-)
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