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Feb 13, 2005 20:41:47 GMT
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I have spent most of the afternoon fannying about in the freezing wind trying to coaxe some life into a particularly ropey Nova I aquired to be re-homed by Supersport1987. Despite my best efforts I can't get the damn thing to run!!!  What am I doing wrong?? It was running a couple of weeks ago but now doesn't want to go at all. Getting a good spark and I reckon it's fuelling OK, but it turns over, catches and then just peters out. Tried it rich, tried it lean, tried copious cold-start, even tried dragging it behind the barge and bumping it....but every time it just fizzles out. What the jeff is going on cos it's really winding me up. |
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Kris
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Feb 13, 2005 20:45:26 GMT
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Have you checked the timing?
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Feb 13, 2005 20:46:39 GMT
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is there any fuel in it? i know don't shout at me! but you never know, also does the fuel smell ok? unleaded has a habit of going stale. If you have tried all these not sure, apart from getting a fresh gallon of petrol and touching the rubbish  |
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I'm dressed in black again until someone invents a darker colour.
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Feb 13, 2005 20:48:09 GMT
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Fuelling seems fine. Doesn't smell off.
Could be timing as it was a bit rough running before, but it surely wouldn't go that far off just sitting for a fortnight?
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Feb 13, 2005 20:48:27 GMT
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clean the carb out if its been stood
sounds like a blocked jet maybe
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2001 HONDA CT110 (NOT RCV)
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Feb 13, 2005 20:51:45 GMT
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clean the carb out if its been stood sounds like a blocked jet maybe Done that already.  |
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Kris
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Feb 13, 2005 20:55:41 GMT
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My Golf was a biatch to start from stone cold and used to idle eratically before I adjusted the timing, I set it up correctly and it fired up so much easier after that.
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Feb 13, 2005 20:59:27 GMT
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Well it will have to wait now as it's (a) too dark (b) too cold and (c) I'm too hacked off to bother any more. I'll only get curse word off and take a sledgehammer to it or attack it with petrol and matches. IS THAT WARM ENOUGH FOR YOU, HUH???   ;D |
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Feb 13, 2005 20:59:45 GMT
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the timing shouldnt slip that much Nick, but if it wont run with easystart sprayed up it, then i would say it was timing or sparkage. what colour is the spark is it a nice blue? are the plugs wet?
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I'm dressed in black again until someone invents a darker colour.
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Kris
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Feb 13, 2005 21:01:12 GMT
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Well it will have to wait now as it's (a) too dark (b) too cold and (c) I'm too hacked off to bother any more. I'll only get curse word off and take a sledgehammer to it or attack it with petrol and matches. IS THAT WARM ENOUGH FOR YOU, HUH??? ;D I know that feeling ;D |
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Feb 13, 2005 21:06:23 GMT
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There's a healthy (ish) spark, OK given the age of the plugs, leads etc. Should be more than enough to make it go.
Plugs are dry.
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Feb 13, 2005 21:07:16 GMT
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tried towing it? i know it sounds silly, but when my escort wouldnt start after i had the head skimmed, i towed it up and down the road with the mondeo, and it fired after a while ;D
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tried towing it? i know it sounds silly, but when my escort wouldnt start after i had the head skimmed, i towed it up and down the road with the mondeo, and it fired after a while ;D Yeah. Dragged by the volvo. Ran fot a little bit then died.  |
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Nova No Va.BenzBoy
@benzboy
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Feb 14, 2005 11:36:23 GMT
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When it starts, does it run until you try to rev it? Or does it just chug for a bit and then die? Could be the vacuum advance pipe going to the dizzy... plus a mass of other wild stabs in the dark!  ;D |
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Feb 14, 2005 13:34:14 GMT
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As another stab in the dark, is the go juice deffo getting to the carb? ........ I'm guessing you've checked the lines, pump etc by now but just checking off the obvious one by one
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Feb 14, 2005 14:23:15 GMT
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As another stab in the dark, is the go juice deffo getting to the carb? ........ I'm guessing you've checked the lines, pump etc by now but just checking off the obvious one by one it sounds fuel related to me too - have u tried taking off the fuel pipe to the carb and checking the carb is getting fuel? Otherwise i would stick some fuel down the carbs and try that a few times. We had the exact same problem with our buggy on the weekend. |
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Feb 14, 2005 16:30:24 GMT
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It does sound fuel related, hope it's nothing too serious.
I hate to be a pessimist, but I've had problems similar to these on engines in the past as a result of valve problems that I initially didn't diagnose right, I once spent ages messing about with my Imp's ignition and converting it to have an alternator only to find it was the valves that were at it. Have you compression tested the engine to make sure all the valves are functioning right? Hope it's not that though, might be expensive, although I suppose you could find a head in a scrappy if it comes to that.
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"He's not the messiah, he's a very naughty boy!"
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Feb 14, 2005 16:38:36 GMT
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sounds like you have some kind of 'fault'. use 'logic' to try and establish what it is.
Hope this helps, Mr_B
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1972 Fiat 130 1985 Talbot Alpine 1974 Lancia Beta Saloon 1975 + 1986 Mazda 929 Koop + Wagon 1982 Fiat Argenta 2.0 iniezione elettronica 1977 Toyota Carina TA14 BEST CAR EVER!!!!!!!! 1979 Datsun B310 Sunny 4-dr 1984 Audi 200 Quattro Turbo 1983 Honda Accord 1.6 DX GONE1989 Alfa 75 2.0 TS Mr T says: TREAT YO MOTHER RIGHT! |
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Nova No Va.BenzBoy
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Feb 14, 2005 19:45:51 GMT
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Logic? What's that? Just yank wires, pipes and stuff off 'til it makes a difference. That's what I always do. ;D  Seriously though, it could be the fuel pump that's knackered... if it has a priming lever on it you could take the pipe off that goes to the carb and lift the lever a few times. If you get fuel then it's probably OK (well, the diaphragm is ok anyway...). If it ain't got a priming lever you can do the same by cranking the engine with the pipe off, just have a container to catch the fuel in. |
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Feb 14, 2005 20:30:32 GMT
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Looks like I'll be monkeying about with it some more at the weekend.  Worried by Rev's ideas about compression, as it had been getting v.v. hot before it arrived at my gaff. Ho-hum. |
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;D
