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hi all picked up a cheap imp on ebay nice and solid thinking of making a "q car"  out of it leaving it standard looking but fitting a 1.8 k series uprating shox brakes etc has anyone got hard info on fitting such an engine i know its been done ie adapter to gearbox what year engine parcel shelf etc seen one in retro but cant find my magazine for the name of the guy or if anyone has his number it would help cheers guys  |
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ImpManiac
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Impstop, A friend of mine converted his Imp to 1.4 K-series power. He used the 8-valve variant. He used it for rallying and so could not use a 16-valver. He was very successful with the car, but I'm not sure whether or not he's kept it. I have a feeling it was on ebay a while ago! I shall have a word with him and try to get some of your answers. It might help if you could say where you intend to source your engine from. Not sure if it makes any difference with K-series. If he's around, I'll call him today on your behalf. If he's agreeable, I'll send you his contact phone number. Paul  |
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Jan 18, 2005 10:31:21 GMT
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Yeah that 1.4K-series car was on ebay this week just gone.
Trouble is you do have to hack some metalwork out of the car - the rear shelf has to go and I believe that the yellow one on ebay had almost a semi-space frame welded in to support it all with a modded engine lid.
To be honest, I truly doubt that the Imp gearbox can cope with the torque (not power) of that engine. I know of a chap in Norfolk who fitted a 1.4 k-series plus a Skoda 5-speed box to his - sadly, that ate gearboxes like it was seriously starved!!
I guesss you could fit the VW box, but compared to the Imp's slick change it's bit agricultural - and heavy.
You then have to consider the other factors - moving the radiator up front, uprating the suspension and brakes. And I doubt if those puny little 155/80x12in tyres are going to enjoy that amount of ooomph!! ;D
The 1.4 K-series Imp I knew of (known as Roda - Rover/Skoda) absolutely flew when the box was working - so its probably worthwhile trying to re-engineer the car. The thing you need to be VERY careful of is adding too much weight to the back end.
Cheers
Tim
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1.8 K.SERIES INTO IMPBenzBoy
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Jan 18, 2005 11:07:26 GMT
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Could you not keep the transmission bolted to the K-series? I know that would mean mounting the lump transversely rather than longitudinally, and probably losing the back seat (not to mention plenty of structural re-working!) but you'd then have something which is more or less mid-engined.... Sounds like a fascinating project!! |
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Jan 18, 2005 11:50:04 GMT
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hi guys cheers for the info its mainly fitting the engine wots the problem. as for radiators up front and handeling and stuff sort of got that coverd got spax allround fiesa disc conv fiesta rad 7x13 revies is just what year engine to go for and how to install as for gearboxes i know the torque will smash it to bits but ive got a jk one handy an someones allready cut a hole in rear shelf to get at thermostat  i just want to make it look standerd ill even put crappy trims on my revvies ;D just to blow those chave saxo boys that are winding me up at the moment cheers andy |
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Jan 18, 2005 13:11:46 GMT
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does it have to be a k series andy?what about the citroen ax gt lump? all ali 1300cc and about 105bhp from standard.not to hard to find and a similar weight to the imp lump,fit this and you may not need to go wild with the mods and still keep it q car spec.
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Jan 18, 2005 14:29:59 GMT
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yo andy didnt know about ax?? who does engine to gearbox cov plates is it streight forward?? andy
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Jan 18, 2005 14:42:28 GMT
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The K-series Imp in the Oct '04 Retro cars used a Metro GTi as the donor (1.4 16 valve).
There is a number at the end of the article for the guy who helped him mating the engine to the 'box, Gary Bullivant, Bullivant Engineering, Dinnington, S. Yorks, 01909 771080
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Jan 18, 2005 14:59:14 GMT
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ILL RING HIM NOW CHEERS ANDY ; |
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Jan 18, 2005 18:13:39 GMT
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A word of advice Impstop, when you fit those 7x13 Revolutions, unless you have a really huge offset on those to bring them out from the inner arches, the fronts will rub on full lock, I have some wide dished 7x13 Wellers on my Imp wih that problem, so I'm putting spacers on to bring the wheels out a little then putting flared wheelarches on to cover the sticking out wheels, if you wanted a Q car look the flared arches might give it away, although I suppose it won't be too bad if the arches weren't too massive. The K Series transplant does sound like a good project, but will an 1800cc physically fit, I mean the 1800s probably have a quite different head to the smaller 1400, ie they have more differences besides the bores etc, don't they? And to get the Imp engine in there in the first place they had to lean it over 45 degrees, so mabe the larger K series will present a major problem? That and it could be a bit heavy, thus buggering yer handling right up!  |
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Jan 18, 2005 19:14:14 GMT
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don't know who does a kit but a lot of the ice racers who have imps use them.and i spoke to a guy who was puting one in a davrian.
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Jan 18, 2005 19:20:11 GMT
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Suppose if a lot of guys are using them for the ice racing then it must be possible and it can't screw the handling too much.
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1.8 K.SERIES INTO IMPBenzBoy
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Jan 18, 2005 19:23:35 GMT
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A lot of people who use the 1.8 bin all that VVC gubbins - I don't know why... If it were me I'd go for a 1.6 16v as they're dead easy to find at the scrappers. Parts prices are something else though - a set of tappets from Rover costs more than an aftermarket race-spec set which is bizarre!
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Jan 18, 2005 19:51:34 GMT
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all K series should be outwardly similar. AFAIK ony the VVC has a vastly differing head.
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Jan 18, 2005 22:54:45 GMT
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hi all got a number for a mr salt .hes the guy who put the 14 16v k in ill ring him morrow keep ya posted andt ;D
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Jan 22, 2005 23:13:33 GMT
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just wondering... have you considered a motorcycle engine?
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Jan 23, 2005 17:26:16 GMT
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Thought about it all the time but I've no experience of bike engines myself, plus it's hard enough to insure my Imp as it is! Young guy, plus modified car, plus rough area = insurance claims that would make Bill Gates weep although I'm not disclosing the details at all! |
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;Dhi all just to update you all picked up afull k into imp kit off ebay cheers andy 998 for that info NOW WERE DID I PUT MY HACKSAW ;D ;D
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1.8 K.SERIES INTO IMPBenzBoy
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Superb!! Should keep ya busy for a while!! Have you decided what K-Series you're gonna fit?
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the kit came with a1.4 multi point inj brain wires the lot so may fit that but a good mate of mine has sourced a 1.8 mgf unit foc ;D so may do that it would be rude not too  |
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out of it leaving it standard looking but fitting a 1.8 k series uprating shox brakes etc has anyone got hard info on fitting such an engine i know its been done ie adapter to gearbox what year engine parcel shelf etc seen one in retro but cant find my magazine for the name of the guy or if anyone has his number it would help cheers guys 
i just want to make it look standerd ill even put crappy trims on my revvies ;D just to blow those chave saxo boys that are winding me up at the moment 
