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Mar 11, 2008 20:46:30 GMT
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Sorry bout this fellas need a bit of advise. Is there anything I should look out for when changing the rear brake cylinders and shoes on an old peugot 306? The MOT is the 21st of march and there is a leak on the rear wheel cylinder. All the back of the drum is soaked but my dads just been topping it up as the level drops. I start a 9am to 6pm job tomorrow and I'm moving into my new house this weekend and the flamin car is up for MOT te weekend after. I need to sort it basically so Ill be doing it in the evening sometime next week I think. I don't want to get halfway through the job only to find I cant do it de to specialist tools or knowledge. The handbrake cable also apears to have come out of a clip and be drooping by the drivers siderear wheel (the one with the dodgy cylinder) reckon its related?
Thanks fellas sorry for the spectaculalry not retro post but I need to know. I cant imagine theres a forum for the 306...
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Mar 11, 2008 20:55:48 GMT
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IIRC, the only vaugly specialist tool you need is a big socket (36? 42? cant remember..) for the hub nut before the drum comes off.
I may be thinking of something else though, a moderns a modern, I deal with them as they come.
General advice, be prepared to replace the short brake pipe that runs into the wheel cylinder, cos the tube nut rarely turns freely, and twists the pipe instead.
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To get a standard A40 this low, you'd have to dig a hole to put it in |
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Mar 11, 2008 20:57:04 GMT
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Whip the drums off and establish the make of the cylinder so you get the right ones. I think the choice is between Bendix and Lucas but don't quote me. The backplates are different and the cylinders are not interchangable. The only way to tell is look at the cylinder.
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Mar 11, 2008 20:57:38 GMT
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Oh, and the hub nut is a 32mm!
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Mar 11, 2008 21:02:54 GMT
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Cheers guys. Bleergh. Brake pipe doesn't sound fun. Oh I cant wait for this job at all. Glad Ive got a garage with lights in my new house! Frickin weather is pants for workin on cars!
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Boring car adviceBenzBoy
@benzboy
Club Retro Rides Member 7
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Mar 11, 2008 21:28:44 GMT
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Whip the drums off and establish the make of the cylinder so you get the right ones. I think the choice is between Bendix and Lucas but don't quote me. The backplates are different and the cylinders are not interchangable. The only way to tell is look at the cylinder. Aaaah, I love French cars for that. Completely random fitting of different brake parts etc. IIRC Renault pulled a similar trick on the 5. |
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Mar 11, 2008 21:34:21 GMT
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The old 'Whatever is closest on the shelf' manufacturing technique. Damn French are the masters at it although anyone who has tried to get handbrake cables/front pads/rear shock absorbers/driveshafts for the VW Caddy van (The boring Polo fronted one) will know what I mean too!
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Mar 11, 2008 21:44:14 GMT
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They aint the only ones either! I had a toyota corrola in for Mot work last week, it had different cyls side to side... doesnt look like they have ever been changed either.Thankfully, I have the luxury of being able to order the bits for 1 hr delivery, with the car already in bits on the ramp, and the catalogue in front of me. Sometimes its the only way......
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To get a standard A40 this low, you'd have to dig a hole to put it in |
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Mar 11, 2008 21:44:38 GMT
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Be aware that the ratchet for the self adjuster on the 306's is useless. Theres a little metal tag that pushes against the teeth and its usually broken off or bent.
Sometimes ive found that the bearing and come to bits when you pull the drum off. But its rare.
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Mar 11, 2008 23:13:28 GMT
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They are not the only ones. Loads of cars have very fine tooth ratchets nowadays.
Be extra careful if you over adjust them and have to wind them back as it is very easy to flatten the teeth!
And like TCS mentioned, if it has them, watch the small flap, make sure it is in position and against the teeth.
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The handbrake cable also apears to have come out of a clip and be drooping by the drivers siderear wheel (the one with the dodgy cylinder) reckon its related? I drive a 306 diesel daily and my handbrake cable is like that all the time. In fairness though, i drive the car like i'm late for mass and its the only car that you have to wipe your feet on the way out but it just keeps on keepin' on!!! ;D |
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Aaaah, I love French cars for that. Completely random fitting of different brake parts etc. IIRC Renault pulled a similar trick on the 5. I was helping change the front brakes on a 106 at college the other week, and someone noticed that the calliper carrier bolts are 5 sided...  |
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1989 Peugeot 205. You know, the one that was parked in a ditch on the campsite at RRG'17... the glass is always full. but the ratio of air to water may vary. |
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