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Feb 29, 2008 17:51:40 GMT
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I recently re-watched that "Secret Life of The Ford Cortina" programme with Alexi Sayle. Because I am quite sad I noted down the registration numbers of principal cars which were in the programme (the ones I could make out). Working on the basis that if these cars had been on a TV show then they woudl have had a better than normal chance at survival?
The surprise comes with that family of nutters who love their Mk3 Cortina so much "its jsut part of the family, its been there for every majr event in our life, I can't imagine life without it". Yet 3 years after the programme aired BAK168L met its end.
Also interesting was that custom pickup Mk1 "Street Legal" which was a multiple magazine feature car with a V6... and that one only lasted until 1983!
There was footage of the 1600E owners club national rally. You'd think that there would be a good survival rate there. Erm, no. Only one of them survives. WHich is quite horrifying.
The main feature car which Sayle uses for his song and dance routine is a gonner.
One interesting survivor is a Mk1 saloon which we see going through the motor auctions toward the beginging of the show. FYK611C is still taxed and on the road.
I didn't bother running theplates of "Satisfaction" the wild custom Mk3 cortina, as Iknow its alive and well but not on the road at the mo, its undergoing a refresh.
Thats quite a poor survival rate when all of these cars were in the hands of enthusiasts...
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Last Edit: Feb 29, 2008 17:52:52 GMT by akku
1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1994 Ford Fiesta
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Where did they go?briandamaged
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Feb 29, 2008 17:59:12 GMT
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It's amazing that the survival rate amongst most cars is so infinitessimally small.
I've got a few of those 'Birmingham in the 60's'-type photo books crammed full of old B&W pics, I've DVLA'd a fair few of those and only found ONE car that's still on the road (nothing exotic, just a P6 Rover 2000).
One of these days i'm gonna DVLA everything I can from the Time Travel DVD's archives and see just how many 70's rods/customs survive.
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Feb 29, 2008 18:53:25 GMT
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Two words... banger racing!!
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Feb 29, 2008 18:56:41 GMT
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one word: export
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Someone just shot the elephant in the room.
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Feb 29, 2008 19:32:55 GMT
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Jusr seemed funny that out of 8 or 9 or so cars from the 1600E national rally that only one survived. Also seemed funny that that family who'd been so mad about their Mk3 scrapped it 3 years later. And that custom Mk1 which must have taken yonks to build to that standard, gone...
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1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1994 Ford Fiesta
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Marc
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Feb 29, 2008 19:36:29 GMT
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I suppose theres always the fact that cars are written off or stolen etc, to count for a large number of them.
Still disappointing though.
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Feb 29, 2008 19:39:30 GMT
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I think a lot of it has to do with the quality of peoples repairs. I have broken up a number of cortinas, because a 1980's tart-up restoration consisting of cover sills, tacked over arches, some pattern wings, skim and a respray doomed the car. Fresh paint looks good for this seasons shows, but many minters turn to rot really quickly due to people focussing their efforts soley on the outside.
Thankfully, most people these days are more long term thinking, but basically, custom work usually shortens life expectancy.
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To get a standard A40 this low, you'd have to dig a hole to put it in
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Feb 29, 2008 19:45:54 GMT
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MaintainanceIf a car can't be or isn't used everyday and the mud isn't cleaned out of arches, drain holes not cleaned out and basic repairs don't get carried out then that will kill more cars than banger racers, exporters, thiefs and vandels put together
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Feb 29, 2008 20:44:19 GMT
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Same with any 'scene'.... look back through footage of, say, Bug Jam 1994 and run some registration numbers. I'd say two thirds of buses and three quarters of beetles will be dead, victims of hasty 'restorations' like scaryoldcortina says. Do you replace sheetmetal or just wag it over so you can get on with the mint green paint and geometric shapes?
Also when there's more of a given example of a model, it's more likely to be broken to keep another on the road. when you can't move in the free-ads for mk3 cortinas, then where's the harm in buying one that's run out of tax, "yes mate of course I'll get it back on the road" and getting the angle-grinder out?
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Never trust a man Who names himself Trevor. Or one day you might find He's not a real drug dealer.
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Zotez
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Feb 29, 2008 20:49:10 GMT
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Jusr seemed funny that out of 8 or 9 or so cars from the 1600E national rally that only one survived. Also seemed funny that that family who'd been so mad about their Mk3 scrapped it 3 years later. And that custom Mk1 which must have taken yonks to build to that standard, gone... See where your coming from, we had a saab 900 since when i was born, my dad went on about ill repair it we'll never sell it etc etc". Went to the breakers in november.
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Feb 29, 2008 20:49:17 GMT
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Old cars take alot of love and dedication to keep on the road, rust repairs, MOT work e.t.c. Its a constant effort to keep them going. In contrast a car only has to be scrapped once for it to be gone forever!
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1987 Maestro 1.6 HL perkins diesel conversion 1986 Audi 100 Avant 1800cc on LPG 1979 Allegro Series 2 special 4 door 1500cc with vynil roof. IN BITS. HERITAGE ISSUES.
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No record of my Carlton pick-up on the DVLA site... A76 RTM where are you now...
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... the only injury I sustained was a bumped head when I let the seatbelt of without realizing the car was upside down and that's not really the car's fault.
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I`m surprised there are any at all left from a documentary as old as that - cars are only cherished possesions until the owner gets bored, or the MOT tester gives them a schindler`s.
I`m really not surprised at all about the 1600Es, they werent quite old enough to be classics at that time, were they? Bit like a Mk5 Escort 1.8Si owner`s club in this day and age, there probably is one, and while no doubt all the cars are valued and looked after something is bound to happen to them before long.
It`s great that the auction fodder has survived!
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I`m really not surprised at all about the 1600Es, they werent quite old enough to be classics at that time, were they? AFAIK 1600Es were touted as 'future classics' when they were new...!
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... the only injury I sustained was a bumped head when I let the seatbelt of without realizing the car was upside down and that's not really the car's fault.
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Bear in mind that a 1600E in 1982 was between 12 and 15 years old. I know 1960s cars rusted a lot quicker than 1990s ones but all the parts would have been available, loads of pattern parts around, service parts could still be got from Ford dealers etc - it would have been very easy for owners to look after them. Now it is much harder to get anything other than simple service bits such as filters and gaskets, even though support for 60's/70's Fords is pretty good compared to other makes.
I remember classic shows in the 1990s always featured one (of the many!!) Mk2 Granada clubs with several chromed-up Ghia's and Ghia X's. I wonder how many of them still exist, 13 years later. Similarly, how many of the 90's Omegas in the Autobarnstormers club will be around in 2018? (just using them as a example).
IIRC Mk4/5 Cortinas are meant to be be one of the models with a very high attrition rate (numbers left compared to numbers made) second only to the Marina. In fact I found out that one of my old Mk4's (2.0GL) was scrapped recently today, although it was very rotten and 30 years old.
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Last Edit: Mar 1, 2008 18:19:35 GMT by anthonyg
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