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i realise that every car is different but what drop have people got from lopping off half a coil from the front springs?
not really RR suitable, but my parts chaser is a mk4 golf, running lowered bilstein shocks with eibach 30-35mm lowered springs. the front sits a tad high as i've found out eibach were producing 2 sets of front spings for different weighted front ends of the golf. unfortunately they didn't mark up the boxes so it seems everybody got pot luck on what they got.
i've got ones for the heavier golf as the front sits high (been on car nearly 2 years so have deffo settled). i've had a look at the original springs and look ideal for a a bit of trimming, but i only need about 10mm drop. half a coil is about 10mm.
any thoughts?
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spring choppageBenzBoy
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Feb 18, 2008 10:14:10 GMT
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I only need about 10mm drop. half a coil is about 10mm. any thoughts? ta I'd go for half a coil then. ;D There are some nicely modded Mk4 Golfs around - www.cleaned.be would be my first port of call for inspiration!
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dp
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Feb 18, 2008 10:40:20 GMT
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matt in da house: i've had a look at the original springs and look ideal for a a bit of trimming
I would cut a bit out of your lowering coils instead, I cut down the stock coils on my Shop Hack Skoda PickUp and it behaved like an old horse drawn carriage but after fitting a set of Cobra lowering springs it handled like a GoCart but like you I felt it was a tad to high in the nose so I cut ½ a coil of on the front springs and it feels as good as before and now has a bit more attitude....
DP says: A Shop Hack must be "drivable" and be able to handle a load of stuff but still look right...
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Last Edit: Feb 18, 2008 10:41:09 GMT by dp
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Feb 18, 2008 10:59:57 GMT
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What dp said. I read a quote in a magazine writen by a guy who's built a lot of cars. "I've never had an aftermarket spring that didn't need a bit cutting off it".
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Feb 18, 2008 11:01:30 GMT
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matt in da house: I would cut a bit out of your lowering coils instead,
yeah, was going to chop the lowered coils. i had a looky at the original ones to see if they had to have a shaped bottom seat but they don't so i can just chop away. cheers
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Odin
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Feb 18, 2008 11:19:14 GMT
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I can't see half a coil making much drop - I've had one coil drop about 15mm. For some reason (someone on here will know why) the first coil seems to drop much less than subsequent ones, even on bog-standard straight springs.
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Feb 18, 2008 11:57:47 GMT
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odin in da house: I can't see half a coil making much drop
On my 40mm lowering springs (on the front) cuting ½ a coil lowered it about 25mm extra, just enough to set the wheel right in the wheel well but not so low it'll bonk the oil sump on speed bumps....
DP says: It's the small adjustment that makes a "perfect whip".....
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Feb 18, 2008 12:01:09 GMT
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Aye, theres a difference between a car sitting "right" and it resting on the floor... My Cortina looks at its best with a couple of bags of sand in the boot. I bet thats only like 10-15mm difference. Just looks nice that way.
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Odin
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Feb 18, 2008 12:05:05 GMT
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Chopping aftermarket lowering springs may well work differently! I've only chopped stock ones.
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Feb 18, 2008 14:38:56 GMT
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odin in da house: I can't see half a coil making much dropOn my 40mm lowering springs (on the front) cuting ½ a coil lowered it about 25mm extra, just enough to set the wheel right in the wheel well but not so low it'll bonk the oil sump on speed bumps.... DP says: It's the small adjustment that makes a "perfect whip"..... exactly /\/\/\/\ - i'm not looking for any more than 10mm give or take. i'll take pic and you'll see what i mean
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spring choppageMike D
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Feb 18, 2008 17:05:50 GMT
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odin in da house: I can't see half a coil making much dropOn my 40mm lowering springs (on the front) cuting ½ a coil lowered it about 25mm extra, just enough to set the wheel right in the wheel well but not so low it'll bonk the oil sump on speed bumps.... DP says: It's the small adjustment that makes a "perfect whip"..... exactly /\/\/\/\ - i'm not looking for any more than 10mm give or take. i'll take pic and you'll see what I mean I remember seeing some 'strut caps' or something like that for golfs, that'd give you the extra 10mm by sitting the strut top higher up. *edit* I can't google up any references to them. It was a few years back when i had my golf though. Fire up the grinder!
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Last Edit: Feb 18, 2008 17:11:48 GMT by Mike D
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Odin
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Feb 18, 2008 17:27:37 GMT
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I remember seeing some 'strut caps' or something like that for golfs, that'd give you the extra 10mm by sitting the strut top higher up. *edit* I can't google up any references to them. It was a few years back when I had my golf though. Fire up the grinder! These are made by a company called Bonrath I think, but I don't know if they are available for the Mk4.
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