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Feb 15, 2008 13:15:36 GMT
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Sort of retro related....
Planning rules are changing later this year, not sure on the date but it might be 1st April for the new financial year or 1st September, dunno.
Regardless, the upshot of it this: due to the fact that so many people have tarmac'd, slabbed or concreted their gardens, built extensions on all over the place etc. we have an issue with the water table, this is why it hardly needs to rain in someparts of the country and it floods like hell. Not enough "natural" ground to have the rain soak away into.
So as of 2008 (sometime) you will need planning permission for driveways, patios and all hard standing. Not sure if this covers conversion of existing gravel drives to concrete/block/tarmac or not but as its all about cutting flooding you'd think it would.
Now I'm kinda all in favour of measures to protect us from flooding, but on the other hand I've been through borough planning a couple of times now so I'd suggest anyone thining about sticking a drive in, whacking a garage up or hard converting their gravel does it sooner rather than later.
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Feb 15, 2008 13:40:35 GMT
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Certainly agree. I can only think it will be a major 'tick box' for planners to avoid flooding hazards at the moment.
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Feb 15, 2008 13:48:13 GMT
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Booger, planning on de-grassing the front drive. We'd better get a move on!
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Feb 15, 2008 13:53:25 GMT
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Is "I live halfway up a one in two hill so won't get flooded, you plebs." a suitable opening line for a planning application?
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Feb 15, 2008 13:54:39 GMT
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Paving of front gardens could require planning permission 8 February, 2008
By James Clegg
The government proposes more stringent planning rules to fight flooding on impermeable surfaces
A government strategy to help prevent flooding could mean homeowners have to apply for permission to pave over their front gardens.
Only those using porous material would be exempt from the new rules which are intended to reduce the strain on drainage systems by allowing more water to drain into the ground.
The proposed change to planning rules came as part of the Department for the Environment, Food and Rural Affairs’ (Defra) wider review on maintaining and securing water supply in the UK. According to a Defra document, in London alone two thirds of front gardens are already paved over, an area equivalent to 22 times the size of Hyde Park.
Environment secretary Hilary Benn said at the launch of the review: “We are already taking action to address a number of the key issues, including seeking views from stakeholders on how the Environment Agency might take on the strategic role for all forms of inland flooding, including surface water."
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Feb 15, 2008 13:57:44 GMT
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I actually agree with it, most people could make do with porous material, it's only if you work on the cars you really need good hardstanding and that's a declining art nowadays!
Must get on to my builder, he's put the hardcore down for our blockpaving in August and not been back to actually lays them yet!
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Feb 15, 2008 14:02:27 GMT
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Oh I do agree with the concept (if not the people whinging about neighbours cars if you search for that Clegg article) just can't be doing with the red tape! As it's only a proposal, I guess it'll take a suitably long time to actually get into place.
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Feb 15, 2008 14:05:11 GMT
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I'm not sure. Surely there's the same volume of rainwater, just it drains at a different rate? I'm guessing this is an England & Wales thing, or is Scotland affected too?
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Feb 15, 2008 15:13:24 GMT
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That's the point, the longer it takes to make it down the water cycle the less the people in the flood plains get in one great big "oh look I'll take a dinghy to work" gush. Obvioulsy there's a limit, if it's been solidly raining for so long all the porous materials are water logged it won't make much difference and will still shot off down the hill toward all the flood plains around Oxford.
By the same token if more people had water butts, it would hold up the flow as well. Or we could all drive water tight pickups!
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Feb 15, 2008 16:12:18 GMT
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As it's only a proposal, I guess it'll take a suitably long time to actually get into place. That article is 8th Feb. The news on the radio today said "new regulation to be implemented later this year..." so it could be done and dusted already. An amendment to a regulation doesn't even need parliamentary approval. Best to check with your local planning office before doing anything anyway regardless.
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Feb 15, 2008 17:33:52 GMT
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Of course you could just concrete a drive and say it was done late last year....
I'm considering buying a random strip of unusable grass from the next door neighbour. I was hoping to blag it at a good price, concrete it and erect a workshop to store all my engines and curse word in. Better get a move on!
Does anybody know if you need planning permission for pre-fab buildings?
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Feb 15, 2008 23:18:48 GMT
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You could say that it was done ages ago, but the thing is most planning infringement prosecutions come because a neighbour dobs you in, not because they come checking up. Also these days you need all manner of docuemntary proof for stuff like this is you ever sell the house. Ask me how I know all about that curse word. I had one replacement window in my old house and I couldn't prove it complied to this or that applicable standard for the date of installation... held the sale up for a bit. PITA.
It doesn't make any difference whether your building is prefab, concrete, wood, brick, breeze block or make of stacks of old copies of Razzle. What matters for planning permission is the size of it, the position of it relative to your house and the percentage of garden space it takes up. Its called permissable curtalidge development. You need building regs for any building over a certain size even if they are prefab or wooden.
My 26 x 20 foot garage did not require planning but did require regs. My old house, the 24 x 18 foot concrete prefab garage needed planning permission and building regs.
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Last Edit: Feb 15, 2008 23:19:53 GMT by akku
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Feb 15, 2008 23:46:33 GMT
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saw the title and thought there was a concreting party in the offing at Nottingham and me just recovering from laying all the floor in the new workshop... which is looking good in Roman Bronze although its a bit 'fume-y' in there atm.
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Feb 15, 2008 23:54:02 GMT
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The Goverment are very thoughtful aren't they. Especialy when info has been released yesterday about the million or so houses they want to build in the "Thames Gateway", on flood plains!? Insurance companies have said a third of all the new homes will be instantly worthless, due to being un-insurable Bit off topic, but good to see they have thought things through!!
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