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Jan 10, 2008 13:01:31 GMT
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Me & a work mate were discussing this lunchtime what the legality of EU cars driving around the UK actually is.
Now we retro drivers are often picked upon by the fuzz, are the Pols ?
I only ask this, as some of the polish cars I've seen are in a right state.
Do they have a MOT & Tax ? what happens if they are now working over here as legal working migrants. Does that mean they can still drive their Polish registered cars etc....
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misteralz
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Jan 10, 2008 13:05:04 GMT
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Yep, for 12 months if they've emigrated here. As long as they like if they keep going back to get them taxed and tested. They tend to scrap them over here which is all good as they've usually got funky Euro-spec bitties on them!
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Jan 10, 2008 13:05:17 GMT
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Blatantly illegal, no type of MOT, no English tax and I would expect no insurance going on the ones around here. There seems to be a good trade in foreign vehicles going on too, every time a car with non-English is parked up there's a not stuck on the front in bad English if they want to sell their car. Stinks of muck to me. Never seen a cop car pull any of them over and there are loads of them in this area.
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misteralz
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Jan 10, 2008 13:07:57 GMT
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Wow! English tax! Is that like poll tax or scene tax or something?
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Jan 10, 2008 13:08:15 GMT
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I think they are just as persecuted as we are, I was talking to one poor sod who`d had a very nice Opel Vectra confiscated as he had insurance for his own country but not for here. He had to take out a new policy to get it back plus pay a fine and storage etc. He was only here visiting some mates that work here.
Ask yourself - if you were going to France for a week, would you ring round a load of French insurance companies getting quotes and that?
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miaspa
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Jan 10, 2008 13:16:22 GMT
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Have a Polish Fiesta always parked on the street outside our office, moves to different places daily so it not abandoned and the offside head light been kicked in for the last 9 months. Coming back from Norwich in a Cab the other night, the headlight warning light comes on and the cabby gets pulled a mile down the road.
Buy yourself Polish plates avoid the congestion charge, RFL, speed cameras, insurance the lot.
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Found my flashing Pao again.
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Jan 10, 2008 13:18:15 GMT
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Ask yourself - if you were going to France for a week, would you ring round a load of French insurance companies getting quotes and that? No, but then most UK insurance policies, if not all, automatically cover you in most EU countries.
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Jan 10, 2008 13:26:07 GMT
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True, but Poland isnt exactly the 3rd world, this guy`s cover might have worked the same. They took the car because it wasnt on the national insurance database.
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Jan 10, 2008 13:27:40 GMT
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There are loads of Polish registered motors round here as well, one of them's a very nice Mk II Golf GTi, I probably know the guys who own them, I used to work with a bloody huge squad of Polish guys briefly, nice enough guys but hard to talk to as their English was pretty bad, and bearing in mind I'm from the West of Scotland so's mine. ;D I just wish they'd bring over more retro Soviet stuff, it'd save me a trip if every crumbling down flat with a legion of Polish guys living in it had old GAZes, Trabants, Tatras and UAZes parked outside, could just go round and make an offer to them, but no, they had to bring relatively modern stuff. ;D
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Jan 10, 2008 13:28:56 GMT
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Wasn't there a Polish MK1 Golf running about at the Ace on the awards night. Quite nice actually, dropped of some wide chrome rims.
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Jan 10, 2008 13:33:54 GMT
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I saw a Pole get tugged in a 318i a couple of weeks back by a junior looking copper in a 306. He looked so confused trying to explain to him why he'd pulled him ;D All the Poles I know have chopped in their old German motors for UK reg'd Citroens and the like
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Jan 10, 2008 13:37:51 GMT
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True, but Poland isnt exactly the 3rd world, this guy`s cover might have worked the same. They took the car because it wasnt on the national insurance database. I find that very difficult to believe, coz the cops would then be pulling every foreign registered car on the roads for the same reason. Oh, and the time limit for keeping a non-UK registered car in the UK at any one time is 6 months...
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Jan 10, 2008 13:42:16 GMT
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I have an english registered left hand drive Rover that i keep at my holiday apartment in Italy. The hassle I've had is having to bring the car back every year to get an MOT done to keep it legal, even though it will never permanently come back to the UK. I thought I could get an Italian MOT equivalent done there as it made more sense to me that the car would be legal in the country it will be used in. But, they can't MOT it there cos it's UK registered and not Italian registered. To register it there costs about 700 euro, or about the same as the value of the car!!! You'd think that with all this EU bo**ox everwhere your car could get a declaration of roadworthiness (essentially what an MOT is) in whichever country it is used in - or is that just too simple!!
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Jan 10, 2008 13:50:20 GMT
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Yeah they come over here stealing our jobs/women/carp/plasterers/pickled cabbage etc etc stick em all back on the banana boat I say!!! etc.
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Jan 10, 2008 13:50:29 GMT
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Ok, perhaps didnt phrase that properly, it was a Sunday night, no-one around to confirm anything, they obviously suspected something was amiss so they took it. That`s how they roll in Sunny Dewsbury. The Pole in question could have been lying to me but he had no reason to, he just collared me one night as I was locking up because he thought I might be able to advise him.
I got pulled the other week, not much of mine shows up on NIDB but I sounded like a genuine motor trader (whick I am) and not someone trying it on, so they let me go without even a producer.
My point was just that in this case, Polish Plates did not prevent the driver from coming under scrutiny, and it`s not the first time I`ve heard of it so it seems that in Dewsbury de Janeiro at least there is no special treatment being dished out.
And all the Polish reg`d cars I`ve seen looked nice, well looked after or late-model things.
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Last Edit: Jan 10, 2008 13:52:30 GMT by vicsmith
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DutyFreeSaviour
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Jan 10, 2008 13:55:00 GMT
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As Leep and VIP say - time is limited to 6mths ( this is the rule for UK cars abroad too but isn't really enforceable so you get away with it ) and I have to keep taking the UK registered motors back across for their MOT's. The German Alfa and Suzuki get TuV'd and the insurance policies are a nightmare! Registering here in Belgium is a disaster zone, in at least 2different languages depending on which commune you're in etc... Single zone my
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Jan 10, 2008 17:29:32 GMT
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All the eastern europeans round by me have newish ventos and opels now. One excepetion was an FSO polonez in a layby on the A500. it was there for a few days before I realised the guy was living in it!
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Jan 10, 2008 17:41:32 GMT
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Yeah they come over here stealing our jobs/women/carp/plasterers/pickled cabbage etc etc stick em all back on the banana boat I say!!! etc. ROFLMAO ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Especially the carp bit, top stuff!
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Jan 10, 2008 17:47:45 GMT
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My old boss used to like driving through speed cameras in his Chrysler Voyager on Latvian plates just enough to set them off. Never had a fine. He did us a favour by driving the A90 finding out what cameras were active, and what speed set them off.
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Jan 10, 2008 18:14:52 GMT
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Yeah they come over here stealing our jobs/women/carp/plasterers/pickled cabbage etc etc stick em all back on the banana boat I say!!! etc. WHS
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