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Question based around the freebies and peoples general greed for free stuff ? Oh, and I know anywhere, and anything can be used to scam, all you need is one of each..... scammer and scammed. My question is more around mobile numbers used to siphon funds. If there is a mobile number to call, can that then be set up in such a way that it pulls for example £10/minute from your bill, with the serviceprovider getting the regular tarrif, and the scammer getting eg £9.70 for their trouble ? This is one of them...... There were a lot of "easy" freebies over Christmas , and most were really good stuff, like free mini motos, cars etc.... many were linked to only a telephone number to call, and I did call one, which answered with just music playing. Who knows the truth ?? Check this out: I want a moped to make up as part of the Bus's little show, to look like a pitbike. www.gumtree.com/london/47/17887147.html |
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Last Edit: Jan 5, 2008 10:00:04 GMT by grizz
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luckygti
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Yep, you can set up any phone number to be a premium line AFAIK. Call me a bit sad but I remember seeing it on a TV soap!! (So it must be true!!) There also used to be a scam where someone would "breakdown" outside your house and knock on the dooor to borrow the phone!! They'd call a premium line number (there own!) and you'd get the bill, and they'd get the money!! Looking at this though I'd say it's genuine. I'd only be worried if it was something that really was too good to be true! Coz, 9 times out of ten it is!
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Well I googled the number and came up with only one hit, another Gumtree ad for a mobile phone... www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=07856745647&btnG=Google+Search&meta=Also tried a search on this site, nothing came up though whocallsme.com/found who calls me site after getting a bunch of missed calls during work, turned out to be a company that tries to flog you a contract with three (currently a PAYG customer with them) Not had any other use for the site, but have bookmarked it just in case... |
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chrisw
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If there is a mobile number to call, can that then be set up in such a way that it pulls for example £10/minute from your bill, with the serviceprovider getting the regular tarrif, and the scammer getting eg £9.70 for their trouble ? Can't be done, not in the UK. Ofcom put a limited on the maximum a company can charge for a phone call, if memory serves its something like £1.50. |
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With a mobile number it can't be done. But "personal numbers" also begin 07 like a mobile. I was getting a lot of one rings from what looked like a mobile, got sick and tried to call it back and got a message from orange "This number is a personal number and may be charged a much higher rate than a normal call, you may continue if you wish, if not hang up and you won't be charged". They are something like this but have you either listen to a long message, or if it is a person have them really work hard to keep you on the line. |
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You can't set any number to be a 'premium rate' - OFCOM won't allow it. 01/02/03 are reserved for landlines and are charged at national rates (up to 3.5p offpeak, 5p peak I think). 070 numbers are 'follow me' services where you redirect it to whatever phone you're nearest - I think the maximum on these is 75p/min. 076-079 numbers are mobiles. 08 numbers are cheaper than national rate, 09 numbers are more expensive.
So really just beware of 070 and 09 numbers, but even then the rules state that it's a capped per minute rate (09 numbers is 1.50 per minute) and they have to hang up after £20 worth.
I used to work on a 09 number (PC software support, before you get all suggestive!) and we could easily lose our number if I didn't just wham the phone down after £20 worth!
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I used to work on a 09 number (PC software support, before you get all suggestive!) and we could easily lose our number if I didn't just wham the phone down after £20 worth! Sounds like excellent customer service. Set up premium line. Gouge customers the max per minute right up to the max cost limit then hang up without solving the problem leaving the customer free to call back and be charged again. Tell me what make was that. I must buy one! |
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This space available to rent. Reach literally dozens of people. Cheap rates!
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If you want something like a Spanish Visa, you have to call a 09 number.... ask me how I know ?
The directions are not very clear, so if you are a thicky like me.... you make a second call.
Not nice at all, I think.
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Pretty much all been said...
I've heard of people claiming scams where you are "diverted" to a £10 a minute number but in that case thepersonwho did the diverting would pay the £10 a minute not the caller - you just pay the cost of the call to the first point.
07 number is a mobile. If you got just music maybe the network was busy or something?
premium numbers are capped at £1 or £1.50 a minute and are being reduced again in April 2008 IIRC, although a new 09... service with higher costs will be available. Or something. I have 0845 and 0800 at work so BT were telling me all about it. 0870 charge limits and such are also changing (becomeing cheaper for the consumer)
The one you do have to watch for is the "missed number scam". Your mobile rings once or maybe like for a 1/10th second and a missed call shows up. So you call it back... Or there's a mysterious message on your voice mail so you press #5 to retrun the call....
You are now calling a premium rate number in the PRC or Caymen Islands... Or you are if your phone isn't internationally barred like my work one is. But these are obviously not covered by the UK premium rate number laws etc or OFCOM so can charge what they like....
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Last Edit: Jan 5, 2008 14:15:24 GMT by akku
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I think 0845 costs more from a mobile, seem to recall a a circular or something that came last year.
Clearly tollfree is not free from a mobile.
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obviously international numbers can spotted because they start +xx where xx is the country code or 00xx. I had a bunch from China one week.
0845 number charges vary by mobile operator and tarrif. The big thing is that they are usualy not included in "free local call" deals with landlines or some free-minutes packages on mobiles. Ironically 0800 numbers are not included in some free-minute packages either...
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If it was a mobile number that was playing the music, you can get music to play instead of the usual "ring ring" calling tone when someone calls you. Perhaps they had done that. I called someones mobile once and got the sounds of a woman...erm... enjoying herself very much, instead of the stock "brrr-brrr" sound. I don't mean ringtones BTW... it plays the music to the caller...  |
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Thats what I meant. Cool thanks. obviously international numbers can spotted because they start +xx where xx is the country code or 00xx. I had a bunch from China one week. 0845 number charges vary by mobile operator and tarrif. The big thing is that they are usualy not included in "free local call" deals with landlines or some free-minutes packages on mobiles. Ironically 0800 numbers are not included in some free-minute packages either... |
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;D ;D ;D ;D ;D [glow=red,2,300] Yeahhhh... Right.... ?[/glow] If it was a mobile number that was playing the music, you can get music to play instead of the usual "ring ring" calling tone when someone calls you. Perhaps they had done that. I called someones mobile once and got the sounds of a woman...erm... enjoying herself very much, instead of the stock "brrr-brrr" sound. I don't mean ringtones BTW... it plays the music to the caller... |
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I walked into that one didn't I! ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Interesting..... it has been removed !!
Wonder why ??
Can't be arssed to call the original number, but suspect there has to be a reason.
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Ummm, it's not rocket science for a legit-looking 07xxx mobile number to be on divert to 09xx premium. We have used 'gumtree' for the first time today. To buy a jack russell puppy.  |
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Ummm, it's not rocket science for a legit-looking 07xxx mobile number to be on divert to 09xx premium. We have used 'gumtree' for the first time today. To buy a jack russell puppy. Now there is a good reason to like Gumtree..... Puppies.  |
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Last Edit: Jan 5, 2008 15:13:36 GMT by grizz
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chrisw
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Ummm, it's not rocket science for a legit-looking 07xxx mobile number to be on divert to 09xx premium. But the number you called would get charged, not you, so they would only be scamming themselves  |
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^^^ True - if you set up a divert with your mobile network, then you pay for the leg of the call from your number to the one it diverts to. The person calling you only gets charged for the original number they called. Same as when you take your mobile abroad - because anyone calling you can't guarantee where your phone is, they pay standard rate to call a mobile. You then pay the extra fee because your phone is abroad, on an incoming call. Sounds like excellent customer service. Set up premium line. Gouge customers the max per minute right up to the max cost limit then hang up without solving the problem leaving the customer free to call back and be charged again. Tell me what make was that. I must buy one! Hey it's not our rules, like I said the regulator can shut down 09xx lines if they don't abide by the rules, which is £20 limit and max £1.50 a minute. Anyway it was software support..... calls about faults on the computer were charged at local rates, if the problem then turned out to be due to software the customer had installed themselves we kindly advised them to call the £1/minute number instead. |
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Never trust a man
Who names himself Trevor.
Or one day you might find
He's not a real drug dealer.
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