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Bought this 3 years ago, cheap but unseen from Greece, gambling it was solid but tatty - paid off. Literally came off the back of a lorry.
Refreshed the 1600 - it was well worn, but thrashed it round for almost 2 years and couldn't kill it! Upgraded brakes and suspension, and then just before Retro Rides gathering at Goodwood last year I droped in a 2.5 m10/s14 hybrid I'd had on the stand for another car.
This is an m3 block bored to 95.5mm, m3 evo sport 87mm crank, CP 11:1 pistons and long rods giving a true 2.5 litres. Mated to an e12 m10 head, with a 304 shrick, over sized valves and a lot of porting. Drives through an e21 5 speed and an e21 LSD.
Got it together with days to go, and then rolled the dice and drove 1700kms from where I live in the south of France to a mates place in Brecon for his 50th party, and a drive through the Beacons with a group of other 2002 owners. Didn't miss a beat and got the 45s set up on a rolling road - showed just shy of 200bhp and 200ft/lbs, chuffed.
Weekender was brilliant fun, sadly can't make it this year. Use it daily.
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1971 BMW 1600 Touring +DarrenW
@darrenw
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Feb 17, 2024 10:13:19 GMT
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That's lovely, I really like '02 Tourings. I didn't realise the S14 engine was derived from the M10 although it makes sense really!
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Feb 17, 2024 10:38:12 GMT
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That's one nice car!
Funny fact: today this would be called a 1600 compact, since Your touring is actually a shorter hatchback of the 02 limousine, while touring is todays' name for bimmer estates/wagons/kombis.
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Feb 17, 2024 10:40:42 GMT
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that’s is a proper sleeper
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Feb 17, 2024 14:28:21 GMT
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That's lovely, I really like '02 Tourings. I didn't realise the S14 engine was derived from the M10 although it makes sense really!
Thanks, this is my third. First had all s14 power:
Second had an unfortuante encounter with a wall before I had a chance to restore it!
Main difference between and m10 and s14 block is the cylinders are siamesed in the cast, so they can be bored larger than the 89mm m10 and maintain their strength. There's an extra oil return on top which you have to plug when using an m10 head and one of the pivot pins for the chain guide is larger and internally oiled. That's about it. All the castings and threads are there to bolt into any m10 engined chassis.
Same goes between the m88 as seen in the m1 and the m30 big 6. In fact some of the m88 blocks found their way into early 3.5 litre saloons, like my 1980 735i - these engines are known as m90, even if externally they look like an m30. They have the bigger bore of the m88 and the same shorter throw crank - so a very similar final capacity to an m30b35, but a bit smoother and quicker to rev.
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1971 BMW 1600 Touring +DarrenW
@darrenw
Club Retro Rides Member 74
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Feb 17, 2024 14:33:55 GMT
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ooof I guess there was no coming back from that bodyshell/wall interaction! Main difference between and m10 and s14 block is the cylinders are siamesed in the cast, so they can be bored larger than the 89mm m10 and maintain their strength. There's an extra oil return on top which you have to plug when using an m10 head and one of the pivot pins for the chain guide is larger and internally oiled. That's about it. All the castings and threads are there to bolt into any m10 engined chassis.
Same goes between the m88 as seen in the m1 and the m30 big 6. In fact some of the m88 blocks found their way into early 3.5 litre saloons, like my 1980 735i - these engines are known as m90, even if externally they look like an m30. They have the bigger bore of the m88 and the same shorter throw crank - so a very similar final capacity to an m30b35, but a bit smoother and quicker to rev.
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Feb 17, 2024 14:56:20 GMT
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ooof I guess there was no coming back from that bodyshell/wall interaction!
No, it was proper squashed, only moved it there a month before to rebuild the garage! Parked it on paving slabs, tightly tarped, proper job, and then...
Bigger issue was rebuilding the wall :-)  |
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Feb 17, 2024 21:45:32 GMT
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Wow, an Evo crank. I bet that wasn't too easy to come by?
200/200, must be awesome and guessing there's plenty of torque in the lower rev range.
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Still learning...still spending...still breaking things!
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Feb 27, 2024 20:40:22 GMT
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Wow, an Evo crank. I bet that wasn't too easy to come by? 200/200, must be awesome and guessing there's plenty of torque in the lower rev range. they are out there for ££££😬  |
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