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I think you will struggle to keep a transit crew cab recovery under 3.5t with car, tools, parts, fuel, driver and service crew on board. Unladen a light build crew cab is going to close to 2000kg off the top of my head. I think Jono means this kind of crew cab: Rather than this kind of crew cab: Although I could have misunderstood... I would also vote for a van based support vehicle, as mentioned changing clothes, having a cuppa etc if you have swivel seats. I personally find them quite comfortable to cover long distances due to the upright seating position. We drove an 07 Vito based camper to mid-France in the summer - a V6 diesel auto and it was a delight comfort wise. Believe our particular van can tow 2000kg, not that I would necessarily recommend a Vito over other brands
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thebaron
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Over the river, heading out of town
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Dec 22, 2023 10:42:41 GMT
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Love this. It makes me happy and a bit sad as it has been a while since I could regularly compete. I'm actually thinking of selling my Rally car at the moment. It's Endurance/Targa spec. Have a look at my Starlet thread in my signature and let me know if your interested. It would be cool to go to someone in the Retro Rides family. I'm in for the ride anyway. Bookmarked
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jonomisfit
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Dec 22, 2023 18:21:20 GMT
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Thats the style I'm thinking of, first picture.
I'm still procrastinating though, and have until first week of Jan to make a decision and start looking... according to my schedule at least...
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Last Edit: Dec 22, 2023 18:24:34 GMT by jonomisfit
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There is a world of difference between the various vans a custom or a T6 drives better than some cars, some of the lesser ones are awfull. I found you didn't really notice towing a Minor on a trailer behind a custom when I used one to collect it.
As with all used commercials finding a decent one with a good service history that hasn't been to the moon and back is the difficult part.
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Might it be an idea to try an *arrive and drive" package, will be a way to make sure its something you want to persue, without the upfront cost of car, van, trailer etc etc Ttfn Glenn
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eurogranada
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Well, I've been driving transit vans since 2006 as a means to carry a mobility scooter for my wife. In 2006 I had a 2001 2.0 tddi model dual cabin or crew cab. It was a great van that almost never let me down. A starter motor, full clutch and dual mass flywheel and new gear linkage cables come to mind apart form just maintanance like brakes and pads. Very capable and confy car. I ran that for 9 years until rust above the rear axle in the 3 piece thick structural components made me look out for a newer one. Mine being a 2001 model at 15 years old only had rust in that one spot. The a pilars, inner wings, boot door etc. all were still imaculate. So DEZ's beaver tail build shows a completely different picture to my experience.
That became a 2013 transit Custom 2.2. tdci 155hp. This one was a step up being again a crew cab/dual cabin model. But this time with leather seats and all the luxury one could expect in 2013 from rear view camera to all round parking sensors, automatic wipers, high beams, lane assist etc. etc. A very comfortable car. And again very capable. I must admit that as this car has more modern parts and more creature comforts it's now showing some signs of issues. It's 10 years old though and I've had it for 7 of those. I've got two issues that are for sure electrical and some others that are either from being ten years old or from having fixed something a bit later than I should have.
As fas as the vans not being as comfortable as a car or 4x4 I would disagree. Both vans were very comfortable. The earlier one had softer seats, the later one is a bit more stiff. Put a bit of weight in the back and it's a lot better still. I've been driving them as daily's for 16 years or so now and I just love them. I've done 4000km's trips in 14 days of holidays as well as hauling trailers (with cars) or engines etc. and it's just a great workhorse. Hell I even pulled a horse with it, lol. The current transit is also still rust free, no bubbles, no rot anywhere.
Anyway, it's all a matter of taste etc. but I'd highly recommend a van and the transit's in particular.
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jonomisfit
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I have a very clear plan.... It basically goes: Sell current Transit connect by end of Jan Buy a tow vehicle (pretty settled on a transit custom now) by mid Feb Buy a trailer by mid March Move Morris into storage by end of March Sort the workshop ready for a rally car coming Start looking and buy a rally car by end of April A very clear plan, a good plan, a plan that get me to the right place at a pace that gives me time to do things. A plan I am going to stick to. I'm off to view a rally car on Sunday and if its good i'm going to buy it. Balls. New plan Ahhhhhh Shuffle workshop now Get morris into storage now... wait... i don't have a trailer to move things... ummmm The rally car owner has a trailer for sale as well..... Ok, i'm off to view a rally car and a trailer on Sunday and if they are good I'm going to buy them. New new plan Sweat profusely Shuffle the workshop Rent storage.... wait.... I cant rent the storage until monday..... right Also... you don't have a tow vehicle yet to tow a trailer..... Balls.... New new new plan Shuffle the workshop Show optimism / hope that the rest of it sorts itself out. I'm sure it will. I'll be able to borrow / rent something that can tow.... Today I shuffled the workshop... It was a pig to do. The escort weighs a lot, and is a pig to move about even on the skates. But i got there. Escort in its new home P1080243 by jono_misfit, on Flickr morris waiting to go to its new temporary home. P1080247 by jono_misfit, on Flickr I shall see what the car is like on sunday.
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75swb
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I like this plan, although i do love the morris and all it's swagey hole goodness. That definitely needs to be finished one day!
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Did you buy it did you buy it did you buy it? Didja didja didja?
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jonomisfit
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Aaaaaaannnnnnd I didnt. At least not yet, and i'm probably not going to buy this one. It has a some bits going for it, but for me the price and the spec don't add up, especially when I consider how expensive the bits are getting due to the age. With the condition of some of it, the way things have been done, combined with my somewhat obsessive nature at times, i'd just end up buying it, stripping it, and redoing it all my way. This is something I need to get a handle on, otherwise I may as well build another car from scratch.... Anyway, have some pics. Sellers pics Screenshot_20240103_192745_Facebook by jono_misfit, on Flickr Screenshot_20240103_192738_Facebook by jono_misfit, on Flickr Screenshot_20240103_192730_Facebook by jono_misfit, on Flickr Some i took of bits and pieces. 20240107_112009 (1) by jono_misfit, on Flickr 20240107_112013 (1) by jono_misfit, on Flickr 20240107_112017 (1) by jono_misfit, on Flickr 20240107_112024 (1) by jono_misfit, on Flickr 20240107_112026 (1) by jono_misfit, on Flickr 20240107_112047 (1) by jono_misfit, on Flickr 20240107_112054 (1) by jono_misfit, on Flickr 20240107_112059 (1) by jono_misfit, on Flickr 20240107_112102 (1) by jono_misfit, on Flickr 20240107_112116 (1) by jono_misfit, on Flickr 20240107_112119 (1) by jono_misfit, on Flickr 20240107_112125 (1) by jono_misfit, on Flickr 20240107_112128 (1) by jono_misfit, on Flickr 20240107_112145 (1) by jono_misfit, on Flickr 20240107_112150 (1) by jono_misfit, on Flickr 20240107_112153 (1) by jono_misfit, on Flickr 20240107_112206 (1) by jono_misfit, on Flickr 20240107_112208 (1) by jono_misfit, on Flickr Back to original plan now, find a tow vehicle, get a trailer, get a car. Maybe...
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Going into it with a cool head is probably the less fun, but better in the long run,. Therefore more fun in the long run!
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jonomisfit
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Not much progress this week. paulthewall has put me onto a car that looks ideal and in good condition, and I'm off to see that next weekend. I was out looking at some vans on Friday and Sunday morning. I've seen a couple that seem decent. I'm just deciding what I'm going to go for. I also rented a storage container, so moved a few things into it to make some space and sorted some things ready to put the morris into storage. I also put a load of bits I just don't need up for sale on ebay / market place.
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jonomisfit
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Jan 20, 2024 18:24:03 GMT
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Operation jono_misfit goes rallying continues at pace.
My old transit connect was sold today and I'm collecting a transit custom on Monday.
Tomorrow I'm off to look at a rally car, and I'm currently reading the MSUK blue book ready for my BARS test next Friday.
Feeling like I may actually end up competing this year.
Also.... turns out whatever it is I'm selling are magnets for muppets on FB market place...
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Last Edit: Jan 20, 2024 18:25:08 GMT by jonomisfit
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jonomisfit
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Jan 21, 2024 21:03:51 GMT
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Today was an early start, and fairly long day doing a 320mile round trip. But it was productive, and I came home with these. 20240121_121522 by jono_misfit, on Flickr A citreon C2 VTS rally car, and a PRG sport trailer. Engine Bay received_212595835253658 by jono_misfit, on Flickr received_745643937457204 by jono_misfit, on Flickr received_863137415548609 by jono_misfit, on Flickr received_885714803295444 by jono_misfit, on Flickr received_1046790199765396 by jono_misfit, on Flickr received_6971921866254853 by jono_misfit, on Flickr Inside received_281670067901892 by jono_misfit, on Flickr received_676695381319745 by jono_misfit, on Flickr received_724515499630205 by jono_misfit, on Flickr received_887477516261132 by jono_misfit, on Flickr received_894967305966760 by jono_misfit, on Flickr received_921476406242195 by jono_misfit, on Flickr received_1544385506311040 by jono_misfit, on Flickr received_1708682069954246 by jono_misfit, on Flickr received_1832981997137055 by jono_misfit, on Flickr received_1054769212391704 by jono_misfit, on Flickr outside received_290059983665542 by jono_misfit, on Flickr received_907416117294858 by jono_misfit, on Flickr received_1684296822058827 by jono_misfit, on Flickr Needs a couple of things, notably a pair of seats and harnesses. I collect the tow vehicle thursday. My plan hasnt really worked out as I'd planned it. I've got a bit excited and am about 4 months ahead of schedule. Not bad. Must not strip car.... must do minimum work to get it re-prepped to compete..... Total cost to date ~£8000.
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Last Edit: Jan 21, 2024 21:09:53 GMT by jonomisfit
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thebaron
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Excellent - Congratulations.
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Jan 22, 2024 18:06:20 GMT
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Good progress
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Jan 22, 2024 19:27:08 GMT
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Great choice of car. Simple, lightweight and with lots of upgrade potential should you want to. This scares me though: ![](https://flic.kr/p/2ptDt8v) Looks like an accident/projectile waiting to happen. Sure you'll het the whole car sorted though, given your usual standard of work.
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Jan 22, 2024 19:27:25 GMT
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Great choice of car. Simple, lightweight and with lots of upgrade potential should you want to. This scares me though: ![](https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53477754007_c3d1ff5a27_b.jpg) That wheel brace looks like an accident/projectile waiting to happen. Sure you'll get the whole car sorted though, given your usual standard of work.
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Last Edit: Jan 22, 2024 19:29:26 GMT by sebastiaan
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jonomisfit
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Jan 22, 2024 22:08:39 GMT
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Very good point.
I need to have a good go over it and pick up bits like that.
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